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Post by woodstein on Oct 20, 2016 5:33:46 GMT
Perhaps many of our citizens have had enough of open door immigration, we are full thanks to Bliar and his cohorts trying to change the make up of our country for their own political ends, it has to stop these children are not children and 99% would accept the visual evidence, they are almost certainly not asylum seekers in the true sense of the word they have travelled through too many safe countries without claiming asylum. It seems to me these men are economic migrants do we need them no, why have they chosen the UK ? is it the benefits they will receive including free use of our overstretched NHS perhaps, we are a soft touch time we grew a pair as a nation and faced the reality that we can not take more economic migrants wherever they say they originate from. I'm afraid our foreign policies and the policies of our allies have in no small part contributed to a world full of displaced peoples running from torture and tyranny, if a few people try and abuse this fact for purely economic reasons (and there is no evidence that that was what was happening with the people in those pictures yesterday) then that is no reason for a closed door policy. People don’t set sail on bin lids and kids don’t wash up on European beaches because their families want to sign on in Halifax.
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Post by woodstein on Oct 20, 2016 5:39:27 GMT
Partially agree that we shouldn't have stuck our noses in on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc, even Eastern bloc either after seeing terrorists gathering strength due to it, but abuse, torture etc was taking place before our intervention too. Perhaps you think its best to leave the totalitarian states to do as they like.
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Post by Northy on Oct 20, 2016 7:07:38 GMT
says the man in the far east, you'd be sleeping soundly all the time over there. You've got me confused with someone else, shorty yeh ok .....................
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Post by starkiller on Oct 20, 2016 10:12:25 GMT
Why the feck shouldn't we pull our weight when there's a Humanitarian crisis (some of it our fault) afoot. Why should Greece who the EU completely fucked be forced to take the whole weight of the crisis because they're closest to it We're either a caring, compassionate Nation or we're not. It seems many of our citizens most definitely are not. Perhaps many of our citizens have had enough of open door immigration, we are full thanks to Bliar and his cohorts trying to change the make up of our country for their own political ends, it has to stop these children are not children and 99% would accept the visual evidence, they are almost certainly not asylum seekers in the true sense of the word they have travelled through too many safe countries without claiming asylum. It seems to me these men are economic migrants do we need them no, why have they chosen the UK ? is it the benefits they will receive including free use of our overstretched NHS perhaps, we are a soft touch time we grew a pair as a nation and faced the reality that we can not take more economic migrants wherever they say they originate from. As much as I can't stand Blair, EU policy is more to blame, and Blair 2 carried on. I'm afraid there's zero political party point scoring to be made from this issue. All parties are culpable for the handing over of our country. And people will still be out voting for them.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 20, 2016 10:57:20 GMT
Perhaps many of our citizens have had enough of open door immigration, we are full thanks to Bliar and his cohorts trying to change the make up of our country for their own political ends, it has to stop these children are not children and 99% would accept the visual evidence, they are almost certainly not asylum seekers in the true sense of the word they have travelled through too many safe countries without claiming asylum. It seems to me these men are economic migrants do we need them no, why have they chosen the UK ? is it the benefits they will receive including free use of our overstretched NHS perhaps, we are a soft touch time we grew a pair as a nation and faced the reality that we can not take more economic migrants wherever they say they originate from. As much as I can't stand Blair, EU policy is more to blame, and Blair 2 carried on. I'm afraid there's zero political party point scoring to be made from this issue. All parties are culpable for the handing over of our country. And people will still be out voting for them. Maybe the mood has changed amongst the UK voting public, the Brexit vote has shown we do have the will to give those in power a bloody nose, I agree re. EU policy on free movement I am certain this was a significant factor in the way we voted, we should have a ballot paper with none of the above printed on it because at the moment there is not one of these fuckers worth voting for . The Tories, Labour and the Lib Dems collectively have fucked us over with the help of the EU, I am certain they will block Brexit one weasel way or another.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 11:06:52 GMT
The problem is that before we intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan the UK was full of rabid fucking lefties moaning that we weren't doing anything to help the poor people from getting butchered by Saddam Hussein and the like.
I don't care what anyone thinks about the pros and cons of our recent military action - it's happened so we need to get on with it. So, as it's happened, we need to protect our borders and ensure that we're only letting in people who are in genuine danger and can contribute to our society. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that too large a percentage of the people we let in from certain areas\nations are complete and utter worthless lying pieces of shit who, at some point, will cause harm to society.
The left want to interfere with everything in their quest to be all goody goody but expect perfect peaceful outcomes with no understanding as to the real world outcome.
If you're a lefty shut the fuck up, get on with your lives, work hard and stop fucking moaning. You make a mess of everything.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 20, 2016 12:14:47 GMT
Fuck me man The picture of the 'child refugee' that's done the rounds a few times on this thread, turns out that TACT (The UK's largest foster & adoption charity) Tweeted about how he was infact an interpreter working for the Home Office, and everyone saying these 'children' aren't children are racist... Then the Home Office had to come out & say 'nope', he doesn't work for us, he is one of the 'child' refugees... He's from Afghanistan aswell, so he actually had to head towards, and then through, the fucking war zone of Syria to get here. What kind of person does that? I mean, lets assume he was 'in danger' in Afghanistan, he could easily have gone the other way & instantly rocked up in Pakistan, India, China & the like, all perfectly safe countries for someone fleeing for their life. Who would travel from Afghanistan into the Syrian war zone? Well, Al Qaeda members would, and those defecting to join Daesh... And they have warned us how they'll hide thousands of terrorists in amoungst the 'tidal wave of refugees'. Still, I'm sure that isn't the case with this 'child'. Lets give him some colouring books & crayons & he'll be fine. I also like how the BBC & Sky are mentioning these 'child' refugees, but then pixelating their faces out!... And the latest 'child refugee' arrivals are now all being instructed to pull their jackets over their heads so we can't get any photos of their faces. I mean come on, call me a fucking cynic but...
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 20, 2016 13:42:40 GMT
Fuck me man The picture of the 'child refugee' that's done the rounds a few times on this thread, turns out that TACT (The UK's largest foster & adoption charity) Tweeted about how he was infact an interpreter working for the Home Office, and everyone saying these 'children' aren't children are racist... Then the Home Office had to come out & say 'nope', he doesn't work for us, he is one of the 'child' refugees... He's from Afghanistan aswell, so he actually had to head towards, and then through, the fucking war zone of Syria to get here. What kind of person does that? I mean, lets assume he was 'in danger' in Afghanistan, he could easily have gone the other way & instantly rocked up in Pakistan, India, China & the like, all perfectly safe countries for someone fleeing for their life. Who would travel from Afghanistan into the Syrian war zone? Well, Al Qaeda members would, and those defecting to join Daesh... And they have warned us how they'll hide thousands of terrorists in amoungst the 'tidal wave of refugees'. Still, I'm sure that isn't the case with this 'child'. Lets give him some colouring books & crayons & he'll be fine. I also like how the BBC & Sky are mentioning these 'child' refugees, but then pixelating their faces out!... And the latest 'child refugee' arrivals are now all being instructed to pull their jackets over their heads so we can't get any photos of their faces. I mean come on, call me a fucking cynic but... Not a cynic at all just common sense, hopefully TACT will be investigated and shut down pronto, I see that ************** and the EE band of left wing apologists have gone very quite on this one perhaps they should dress these "children" in burkahs to hide their identification. BBC and Sky are a joke they proved that during the Referendum coverage and aftermath.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 20, 2016 14:00:09 GMT
Fuck me man The picture of the 'child refugee' that's done the rounds a few times on this thread, turns out that TACT (The UK's largest foster & adoption charity) Tweeted about how he was infact an interpreter working for the Home Office, and everyone saying these 'children' aren't children are racist... Then the Home Office had to come out & say 'nope', he doesn't work for us, he is one of the 'child' refugees... He's from Afghanistan aswell, so he actually had to head towards, and then through, the fucking war zone of Syria to get here. What kind of person does that? I mean, lets assume he was 'in danger' in Afghanistan, he could easily have gone the other way & instantly rocked up in Pakistan, India, China & the like, all perfectly safe countries for someone fleeing for their life. Who would travel from Afghanistan into the Syrian war zone? Well, Al Qaeda members would, and those defecting to join Daesh... And they have warned us how they'll hide thousands of terrorists in amoungst the 'tidal wave of refugees'. Still, I'm sure that isn't the case with this 'child'. Lets give him some colouring books & crayons & he'll be fine. I also like how the BBC & Sky are mentioning these 'child' refugees, but then pixelating their faces out!... And the latest 'child refugee' arrivals are now all being instructed to pull their jackets over their heads so we can't get any photos of their faces. I mean come on, call me a fucking cynic but... Not a cynic at all just common sense, hopefully TACT will be investigated and shut down pronto, I see that ************** and the EE band of left wing apologists have gone very quite on this one perhaps they should dress these "children" in burkahs to hide their identification. BBC and Sky are a joke they proved that during the Referendum coverage and aftermath. Just like Dr Who, perhaps we're waiting for ************** to regenerate.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 20, 2016 14:14:44 GMT
I'll bang my head against the Tommy Robinson memorial wall of the EE board for the hundredth time.
Why is hard line right wing Home Secratary of a hard line right wing Government complicit of welcoming adults masquerading as Children into this country?
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 20, 2016 14:55:44 GMT
I'll bang my head against the Tommy Robinson memorial wall of the EE board for the hundredth time. Why is hard line right wing Home Secratary of a hard line right wing Government complicit of welcoming adults masquerading as Children into this country? If you have some bat shit crazy conspiracy theory why not just spit it out or make your point as i'm not really exactly sure what you are trying to claim.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 20, 2016 15:00:20 GMT
I'll bang my head against the Tommy Robinson memorial wall of the EE board for the hundredth time. Why is hard line right wing Home Secratary of a hard line right wing Government complicit of welcoming adults masquerading as Children into this country? Because the Government are idiots. Because their friends in big business tell them to let in more & more immigrants to keep wages down. Because they know it'll keep the natives fighting among themselves, rather than coming together to fight against them. Because they know if they don't let them in the left-wing hate mob will round upon them as racists. Take your pick asto any or all of those reasons... And they'd all still be the reasons if we had that pathetic attempt at an Opposition in power. Well actually they'd let even more in & make all the problems even worse.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 20, 2016 15:04:42 GMT
I'll bang my head against the Tommy Robinson memorial wall of the EE board for the hundredth time. Why is hard line right wing Home Secratary of a hard line right wing Government complicit of welcoming adults masquerading as Children into this country? Doesn't take an idiot to work it out...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 20, 2016 15:11:00 GMT
I'll bang my head against the Tommy Robinson memorial wall of the EE board for the hundredth time. Why is hard line right wing Home Secratary of a hard line right wing Government complicit of welcoming adults masquerading as Children into this country? If you have some bat shit crazy conspiracy theory why not just spit it out or make your point as i'm not really exactly sure what you are trying to claim. I have no theory at all, just observations. Two weeks ago, tough words to the Tory faithful about immigration, control our borders, lists of foreigners etc. Two weeks later we’re letting in supposed twenty something males when it would be quite easily not to do so. Further observations. The Government will no doubt make huge concessions on freedom of movement some way down the Brexit line but cunningly the nation is fucking furious with Immigrants (most genuinely fleeing torture) and NOT the Government. Another Tory con trick? Who knows but I wouldn’t like to be an asylum seeker or any type of immigrant in this country with all the hate in the air, whether intentionally created or not.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 20, 2016 15:43:34 GMT
If you have some bat shit crazy conspiracy theory why not just spit it out or make your point as i'm not really exactly sure what you are trying to claim. I have no theory at all, just observations. Two weeks ago, tough words to the Tory faithful about immigration, control our borders, lists of foreigners etc. Two weeks later we’re letting in supposed twenty something males when it would be quite easily not to do so. Further observations. The Government will no doubt make huge concessions on freedom of movement some way down the Brexit line but cunningly the nation is fucking furious with Immigrants (most genuinely fleeing torture) and NOT the Government. Another Tory con trick? Who knows but I wouldn’t like to be an asylum seeker or any type of immigrant in this country with all the hate in the air, whether intentionally created or not. The same tough words that every government for the last 10-15 years has come out with. Some of the same crass and stupid ideas previous governments have come out with, the lists was first floated by Mr Ed and dental checks by Liam Byrne in 2007. You say it's quite easy to spot they're not teenagers, someone has put up statistics showing how over the last x years it clearly isn't and the law is that the refugee gets the benefit of the doubt (and coaching from UK charities based in Calais no doubt). Calais jungle is closing now, brexit negotiations will last 2 years and they'll probably be a transitional period afterwards so I doubt by then and all the ups and downs people will remember these “kids”. As for hate in the air, sorry that's a load of shit this is a myth mostly driven by hand wringing left wing remainers who'll latch onto any incident and blame it on brexit but will happily stand with Jeremy and his anti semitic friends etc etc
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Post by Northy on Oct 20, 2016 16:07:41 GMT
I'll bang my head against the Tommy Robinson memorial wall of the EE board for the hundredth time. Why is hard line right wing Home Secratary of a hard line right wing Government complicit of welcoming adults masquerading as Children into this country? she's into young dusky men?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 20, 2016 16:09:18 GMT
I have no theory at all, just observations. Two weeks ago, tough words to the Tory faithful about immigration, control our borders, lists of foreigners etc. Two weeks later we’re letting in supposed twenty something males when it would be quite easily not to do so. Further observations. The Government will no doubt make huge concessions on freedom of movement some way down the Brexit line but cunningly the nation is fucking furious with Immigrants (most genuinely fleeing torture) and NOT the Government. Another Tory con trick? Who knows but I wouldn’t like to be an asylum seeker or any type of immigrant in this country with all the hate in the air, whether intentionally created or not. The same tough words that every government for the last 10-15 years has come out with. Some of the same crass and stupid ideas previous governments have come out with, the lists was first floated by Mr Ed and dental checks by Liam Byrne in 2007. You say it's quite easy to spot they're not teenagers, someone has put up statistics showing how over the last x years it clearly isn't and the law is that the refugee gets the benefit of the doubt (and coaching from UK charities based in Calais no doubt). Calais jungle is closing now, brexit negotiations will last 2 years and they'll probably be a transitional period afterwards so I doubt by then and all the ups and downs people will remember these “kids”. As for hate in the air, sorry that's a load of shit this is a myth mostly driven by hand wringing left wing remainers who'll latch onto any incident and blame it on brexit but will happily stand with Jeremy and his anti semitic friends etc etc No hate in the air. Do me a fucking favour. I take it you haven't been to pub, listened to a radio phone in or been on twitter or other social media these past 48 hours? This country is ablaze with anger and hate, mostly towards immigrants and very little towards lying politicians and Government. I don’t think there can be much argument that Brexit has made us harder as a nation. Where compassion rationed by dental records is mainstream political thought.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 20, 2016 16:12:13 GMT
There's plenty of hate in the air. A good 99% of it from SJWs who round upon anyone & everyone who doesn't agree 100% with their views on everything.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 20, 2016 16:33:12 GMT
There's plenty of hate in the air. A good 99% of it from SJWs who round upon anyone & everyone who doesn't agree 100% with their views on everything. Serious question. What's an SJW - and does it include that fish idiot? I'm guessing it must do if 99% of hate comes from them. Because Mr fish idiot spouts nothing but hate and anger. He is one sad fucker.
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Post by felonious on Oct 20, 2016 16:36:35 GMT
Not a cynic at all just common sense, hopefully TACT will be investigated and shut down pronto, I see that ************** and the EE band of left wing apologists have gone very quite on this one perhaps they should dress these "children" in burkahs to hide their identification. BBC and Sky are a joke they proved that during the Referendum coverage and aftermath. Just like Dr Who, perhaps we're waiting for ************** to regenerate. Surely, degenerate?
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 20, 2016 17:21:49 GMT
The same tough words that every government for the last 10-15 years has come out with. Some of the same crass and stupid ideas previous governments have come out with, the lists was first floated by Mr Ed and dental checks by Liam Byrne in 2007. You say it's quite easy to spot they're not teenagers, someone has put up statistics showing how over the last x years it clearly isn't and the law is that the refugee gets the benefit of the doubt (and coaching from UK charities based in Calais no doubt). Calais jungle is closing now, brexit negotiations will last 2 years and they'll probably be a transitional period afterwards so I doubt by then and all the ups and downs people will remember these “kids”. As for hate in the air, sorry that's a load of shit this is a myth mostly driven by hand wringing left wing remainers who'll latch onto any incident and blame it on brexit but will happily stand with Jeremy and his anti semitic friends etc etc No hate in the air. Do me a fucking favour. I take it you haven't been to pub, listened to a radio phone in or been on twitter or other social media these past 48 hours? This country is ablaze with anger and hate, mostly towards immigrants and very little towards lying politicians and Government. I don’t think there can be much argument that Brexit has made us harder as a nation. Where compassion rationed by dental records is mainstream political thought. As i've already pointed out dental records is an idea from 2007 from a Labour minister, in 2016 a backbench MP makes the same dumb suggestion and it's the End of Days? So as not to embarrass you, we'll forget you're using social media as an argument after all we know how representative of the majority the football board is. Yes I've been in pubs, on trains and buses and see no hate, just people getting on with things. The closest i've got to hate was after the Sunderland game in the Harvestor, I could hear some knob droning on about paki's, although in his own quarter witted way he was being complimentary about some sort of chemist training they were putting his wife or daughter through, I also have to say that's far from the first time i've heard these words \ names around stoke on trent.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 20, 2016 17:36:11 GMT
Momo – whether we’re the caring sharing sort or not does not excuse the State and MSM treating us all as mugs. Surely we’re entitled to a view? You're fully entitled to a view, I've not tried to shut anyone down, I've just put forward a different one. My problem is that the anger and hate, a lot of which is understandably generated, is largely focused on the immigrants themselves, most of them terribly vulnerable and scared and not the benefit scrounging scum that our leaders and MSM have allowed them to be portrayed as. The Government on the other hand continues to avoid our ire, despite pouring immigrants and asylum seekers into already impoverished areas unable to cope. Its almost as if they want this tinderbox to light?
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 20, 2016 18:32:36 GMT
I'll bang my head against the Tommy Robinson memorial wall of the EE board for the hundredth time. Why is hard line right wing Home Secratary of a hard line right wing Government complicit of welcoming adults masquerading as Children into this country? Doesn't take an idiot to work it out... Obviously not if you have.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 20, 2016 18:57:48 GMT
There's plenty of hate in the air. A good 99% of it from SJWs who round upon anyone & everyone who doesn't agree 100% with their views on everything. Serious question. What's an SJW - and does it include that fish idiot? I'm guessing it must do if 99% of hate comes from them. Because Mr fish idiot spouts nothing but hate and anger. He is one sad fucker. Has someone upset you plastic sweaty!!!! oh well never mind.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 20, 2016 20:56:47 GMT
There's plenty of hate in the air. A good 99% of it from SJWs who round upon anyone & everyone who doesn't agree 100% with their views on everything. Serious question. What's an SJW - and does it include that fish idiot? I'm guessing it must do if 99% of hate comes from them. Because Mr fish idiot spouts nothing but hate and anger. He is one sad fucker. To answer your two questions: Social Justice Warrior and erm .......no :-)
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 20, 2016 21:05:57 GMT
Serious question. What's an SJW - and does it include that fish idiot? I'm guessing it must do if 99% of hate comes from them. Because Mr fish idiot spouts nothing but hate and anger. He is one sad fucker. To answer your two questions: Social Justice Warrior and erm .......no :-) SJW is a pejorative term favoured by social commentary luminaries such as Katie Hopkins and Jon Gaunt.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 20, 2016 21:18:29 GMT
Serious question. What's an SJW - and does it include that fish idiot? I'm guessing it must do if 99% of hate comes from them. Because Mr fish idiot spouts nothing but hate and anger. He is one sad fucker. To answer your two questions: Social Justice Warrior and erm .......no :-) Me an SJW certainly not far to realistic for that bovine excrement.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 20, 2016 21:25:16 GMT
To answer your two questions: Social Justice Warrior and erm .......no :-) SJW is a pejorative term favoured by social commentary luminaries such as Katie Hopkins and Jon Gaunt. ....... to describe such social luminaries as Diane Abbott and Lily Allen.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 20, 2016 22:15:42 GMT
To answer your two questions: Social Justice Warrior and erm .......no :-) SJW is a pejorative term favoured by social commentary luminaries such as Katie Hopkins and Jon Gaunt. SJW means Super Johnny Walters as far as I am concerned.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 20, 2016 22:28:27 GMT
Super super John
Super Johny Eustace.
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