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Post by silverdollar on Oct 15, 2016 17:53:54 GMT
Bony was playing better today, he needs to get match fitness, a goal would help his confidence, we were playing a poor side with excellent opportunities to score. If Bony was carrying an injury then Crouch was a better option. What was to be gained out of bringing on Walters?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 15, 2016 17:55:51 GMT
Bony was playing better today, he needs to get match fitness, a goal would help his confidence, we were playing a poor side with excellent opportunities to score. If Bony was carrying an injury then Crouch was a better option. What was to be gained out of bringing on Walters? Diouf or Bojan would have been better options. Don't see his thinking at all. |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 15, 2016 17:55:57 GMT
Club owed him an appearance bonus?
He was clueless.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 15, 2016 17:56:59 GMT
No idea mate and I'd add Adam to that question to.
Diouf up top and Bojan as the number 10 or Walters up top and Adam as the number 10?
Hmmm, let me think that through ... for a nano second.
EDIT: Oh I see Rob has posted the same thing at exactly the same time - sorry.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 15, 2016 17:57:20 GMT
Bony was playing better today, he needs to get match fitness, a goal would help his confidence, we were playing a poor side with excellent opportunities to score. If Bony was carrying an injury then Crouch was a better option. What was to be gained out of bringing on Walters? I wish I knew. Someone I was talking to at half time gave a good analogy for Walters, reckons he's as effective as a crisp bag being blown about the pitch, hard to argue with really. |
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Post by JC9 on Oct 15, 2016 18:02:08 GMT
This sub absolutely baffled me.
Diouf has pace and would have got in behind the Sunderland back line.
Crouch is always a threat in the air which would have brought other players into the game.
Walters adds nothing! He made no impact to the game what so ever. No idea what sparky was thinking here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 18:04:05 GMT
A part of my soul dies every time Jon Walters pulls on the red and white.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 15, 2016 18:08:43 GMT
What a load of tossers all think that they know better than Hughes!!
We won 2 - 0 clean sheet and first win!!
Celebrate and stick to your games FIFA game.
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Oct 15, 2016 18:09:53 GMT
Bizarre sub. I reckon Bony would've scored had he left him on. And why wouldn't you leave him on? Your main striker, struggling to get off the mark against a very poor side. Surely you leave him on and hope he gets his goal?
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Post by foxxy on Oct 15, 2016 18:11:10 GMT
Glad it wasn't just me! Out of all the attacking options on the bench Walters is the last choice. Infact for me he shouldn't even be on the bench, Sobhi should take his place as genuine wing cover then you have Bony to start, Diouf as the pace option, crouch to go more direct and bojan to revert to false 9, why the need for Walters?
Ignoring all of that bony should of stayed on anyway, as stated above he was playing OK and needs a goal.
Walters must have some dodgy photos of Peter Coates or something there's no other explanation his last good came was in 2012.
Other than the Walters thing though a great team performance today!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 15, 2016 18:11:30 GMT
Absolutely no idea. It was the only negative of the day.
Bony's quality highlighted just how shit Walters is.
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Post by ohbottom on Oct 15, 2016 18:13:56 GMT
Another one (two) to add to MH's long list of random, baffling subs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 18:19:08 GMT
Got to agree. Hughes subs are strange. There was a 4-0 there for the taking. I actually believe they settled for two.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 18:23:36 GMT
Mind boggling decision
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Post by Jimm on Oct 15, 2016 18:26:49 GMT
Walters was absolutely shocking when he came on. It's time he moved on now
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Post by ruts66 on Oct 15, 2016 18:29:18 GMT
I like SJW but he wasn't the right sub when we could have gone on to put a couple more past hapless Sunderland with a much-needed confidence boost for Bony, Bojan or Diouf.
However, 2-0 is 2-0 and with a run of winnable games ahead I'm not going to crucify Hughes for it...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 18:33:34 GMT
I think the thought process was to try and keep the shape the same but with fresher legs. He could have bought on a Bojan, Diouf or whoever and it could have changed the whole flow of the game. If that happened and the game went the other way there would have been murders. As we were, we were well in control and solidly set up. We were creating situations and chances.
"Why risk changing the shape and personnel unduly and risk upsetting something that was clearly working on the day?"
The fact that Walters came on and looked like a ringer is quite another argument!
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Post by bmstoke on Oct 15, 2016 18:33:34 GMT
Bony was playing better today, he needs to get match fitness, a goal would help his confidence, we were playing a poor side with excellent opportunities to score. If Bony was carrying an injury then Crouch was a better option. What was to be gained out of bringing on Walters? Diouf or Bojan would have been better options. Don't see his thinking at all. I would have been a better option. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 15, 2016 18:34:06 GMT
Shame Bony came off but I guess he is still building up his fitness.
I hate Walters witch hunt threads however there were three better options on the bench.
Adam is getting slower too however he can still pass and shoot,that effort at the end was a corker
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 18:38:13 GMT
Walters must have a massive "incriminating photo" album because that's the only logical reason why at this stage, he's even getting in the squad.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Oct 15, 2016 18:41:10 GMT
A part of my soul dies every time Jon Walters pulls on the red and white. The part of your soul that isn't a Stoke fan? Prick. |
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Post by nonameface on Oct 15, 2016 18:51:06 GMT
Was completely surprised that we didn't bring on Diouf so he could sprint past their backline. Walters should not have come on the pitch, but I know sooner or later Walters will come on, i'll be miffed hes on the pitch and he will score, he just has that habit.
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Post by turtlefox on Oct 15, 2016 18:52:52 GMT
No point. Give Bony the minutes he needs.He's a top striker just lacking confidence with his shooting. Similar to Defoe in style but more robust.He just needs to bag a goal.
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Post by potterfox1011 on Oct 15, 2016 18:55:46 GMT
Would have been the ideal time to give bojan some game time.finding himself behind walters in the pecking order must be doing wonders for his confidence.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Oct 15, 2016 18:56:28 GMT
Shocking decision from me. The movement of Allen and Bony was causing Sunderland all sorts of issues. Walters and Adam are just too slow. Whilst Adam has never been the cleanest of tacklers today he looked woefully behind play. Walters seems to have lead boots on and I dont really know what threat he carries.
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Post by roostershair on Oct 15, 2016 19:00:45 GMT
Hughes made the substitution so that the majority could fucking moan about it!
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 15, 2016 19:03:19 GMT
I can't work out why Walters is on the bench ahead of Ramadan?!
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 15, 2016 19:04:00 GMT
What a load of tossers all think that they know better than Hughes!! We won 2 - 0 clean sheet and first win!! Celebrate and stick to your games FIFA game. What is the point of a Forum then? Its not North Korea you know! |
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 15, 2016 19:05:10 GMT
Hughes just doesn't do substitutions well at all!
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Post by alster on Oct 15, 2016 19:05:23 GMT
Good win, steady performance against a side that offered very little. The afternoon did very little to convince me the manager has turned the corner.
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