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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 19:23:18 GMT
I usually agree with most of your posts but I thought you were a Hughes fan until recently? Don't start him off .....
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Post by TexasPotter on Sept 24, 2016 19:25:40 GMT
I usually agree with most of your posts but I thought you were a Hughes fan until recently? There's your first problem.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Sept 24, 2016 19:25:51 GMT
Behave yourselves and dry your knickers some of you.
All you're doing is feeding half-arsed 'journos' who will want to make it into a full-on drama.
Not a chance he's getting a P with a 45 behind it from the family at the moment.
And that's even assuming there actually is anyone out there as a credible, hit-the-ground-running, massive improvement on MLH.
No, it's not great; it's a huge pisser that we didn't send the capped one back to Rio de Smethwick with no points and it's by no means 'fixed' yet - but we ain't sacking the gaffer and we ain't getting relegated.
Deal with it.
Ive ve dealt with it except we aren't getting relegated right now and over the last twenty games we are . If the family choose to do nothing it's their prerogative but our inability to score , our inability to defend , our inability to see games out ,and our total failure of a summer so we are relying on Derby's third choice Keeper which cost us so dear today will see us relegated . As of next Sunday night we will need 38 points from 31 games and that's a huge improvement on our running rate over 5 10 or 20'games Very sad as in the end the manager will go but it's the last three windows that have set us on course for Barnsley and Rotherham next autumn ANC that dots at the door of the CEO who interestingly can't be seen or heard right now
Daft cunt:-)
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 24, 2016 19:30:36 GMT
Probably true but doesn't alter the fact we need 38 from 31 and that's a massive improvement on anything this year .
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Post by alster on Sept 24, 2016 19:47:43 GMT
Hughes is a proud man and should be treated with respect. Monday is the time to tell him that the ManUre game will be his last. Let him enjoy his last day in management at the ground where he was adored. Then he can bow out quietly. Well if the fans ever needed a reminder of just how horrific it would be to replace him with your choice then I sincerely hope they got it. I'm getting seriously pissed off with Hughes and his constantly going back to the old guard because he's shitting himself but I'd rather gouge my own eyes out with a rusty fork than go back to watching that dross that Pulis excuses as football.
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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 24, 2016 20:07:45 GMT
I usually agree with most of your posts but I thought you were a Hughes fan until recently? So were lots of us, until we started being really shit. Today, admittedly, we were merely shit, as opposed to really shit. Slight improvement but nowhere near enough. We need to change the manager and try to save our season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 20:18:05 GMT
Actually it's so clear we can't win a game1-0 and that's how you get out of trouble until we can with this manager or another we are heading for the championship Bore off
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Post by datguy on Sept 24, 2016 20:18:56 GMT
Not good enough. Relegation form. He's no idea how to stop it either.Bye Mark. Did you watch the game?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 20:23:37 GMT
Not good enough. Relegation form. He's no idea how to stop it either.Bye Mark. Did you watch the game? Yes we failed to keep a clean sheet again. We also failed to capitalise on good possession again.
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Post by skip on Sept 24, 2016 20:24:58 GMT
He has failed for the last 15 games to put out a side that has kept a clean sheet. That's shows no sign of stopping. Until the final moments of today's game.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 24, 2016 20:43:44 GMT
He has failed for the last 15 games to put out a side that has kept a clean sheet. That's shows no sign of stopping. Until the final moments of today's game. Twice in the same week
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Post by Fred Ferret on Sept 24, 2016 21:11:44 GMT
Hughes is a proud man and should be treated with respect. Monday is the time to tell him that the ManUre game will be his last. Let him enjoy his last day in management at the ground where he was adored. Then he can bow out quietly. Sorry, but that is utter tripe and patronising, towards a decent manager. Words like betrayal spring to mind - as demonstrated by several agenda merchants on here.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 24, 2016 21:51:02 GMT
Probably true but doesn't alter the fact we need 38 from 31 and that's a massive improvement on anything this year . Benji, you're catching on. I said this last week in a slightly different way. Every game we drop two or three points makes it harder to reach 38 by the end of the season. There are actually 32 games left not 31, but that's neither here nor there. Once we reach the point where we need 2 points a game we are stuffed, because that's Champions League form and we have only managed that for a short period of time last season when we actually looked fantastic.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 24, 2016 21:52:41 GMT
Hughes is a proud man and should be treated with respect. Monday is the time to tell him that the ManUre game will be his last. Let him enjoy his last day in management at the ground where he was adored. Then he can bow out quietly. Sorry, but that is utter tripe and patronising, towards a decent manager. Words like betrayal spring to mind - as demonstrated by several agenda merchants on here. That's bollox. Right now Hughes is re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic while Coates finds a replacement.
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Post by edaboagenawo on Sept 24, 2016 23:40:54 GMT
Talking shit. We deserved to win today. Indi and Grant miscommunication cost us. Based on today there's definite improvement. They cant score goals and stand statuesque in defence on set plays.
THAT is relegation material.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 24, 2016 23:51:12 GMT
Hughes is a proud man and should be treated with respect. Monday is the time to tell him that the ManUre game will be his last. Let him enjoy his last day in management at the ground where he was adored. Then he can bow out quietly. Sorry, but that is utter tripe and patronising, towards a decent manager. Words like betrayal spring to mind - as demonstrated by several agenda merchants on here. Coates won't betray anybody - he's been in business too long to be that daft. Hughes has a fixed-term contract, which means all he owes his employer a decent day's work and all the team owes him is the balance of his contract. So all Coates has to do is write Hughes a nice big cheque and send him on his way with a thank-you note. All bets are off if Hughes steps out of line or Coates does anything to damage his reputation.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 24, 2016 23:55:19 GMT
Understand the somewhat knee jerk calls for change but in the cold light of day there are no obvious managerial alternatives, plenty of time left and to be fair a tangible improvement in the last 2 games where with a little luck we would have won both games.
For me, yesterday's failure to win hurt more due to the Pulis factor - who seems to be a complete and utter hoodoo for us - we just have to suck it up and move on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 25, 2016 1:06:46 GMT
I usually agree with most of your posts but I thought you were a Hughes fan until recently? I have been. I still like him but he's lost the plot.
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Post by abdylilah on Sept 25, 2016 1:30:28 GMT
Not good enough. Relegation form. He's no idea how to stop it either. Bye Mark. Aaaand this week's award for the "Look at me, Look at me, Oh Please look at me, Cock of the Week" sponsored by Benji's Biscuits goes to... Have to say though... He's got his attention fix!
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Post by foster on Sept 25, 2016 5:03:47 GMT
Probably true but doesn't alter the fact we need 38 from 31 and that's a massive improvement on anything this year . Benji, you're catching on. I said this last week in a slightly different way. Every game we drop two or three points makes it harder to reach 38 by the end of the season. There are actually 32 games left not 31, but that's neither here nor there. Once we reach the point where we need 2 points a game we are stuffed, because that's Champions League form and we have only managed that for a short period of time last season when we actually looked fantastic. Good thing we've got 32 games left and not 18 isn't it.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Sept 25, 2016 5:48:55 GMT
I usually agree with most of your posts but I thought you were a Hughes fan until recently? I have been. I still like him but he's lost the plot. Did he lose the plot yesterday?
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Post by Fred Ferret on Sept 25, 2016 6:13:40 GMT
Sorry, but that is utter tripe and patronising, towards a decent manager. Words like betrayal spring to mind - as demonstrated by several agenda merchants on here. Coates won't betray anybody - he's been in business too long to be that daft. Hughes has a fixed-term contract, which means all he owes his employer a decent day's work and all the team owes him is the balance of his contract. So all Coates has to do is write Hughes a nice big cheque and send him on his way with a thank-you note. All bets are off if Hughes steps out of line or Coates does anything to damage his reputation. Who mentioned Coates? I'm referring to the bout of loss-of-bladder-function, panic stricken types - who can't give the guy time (10 games into the season). If we are adrift after 10 games, bye bye; even then, just think back -Leicester were certainties for relegation with 10 games to go 18 months ago. Panicking does no one any favours. Does no one think that the loss of Affelly, Johnson, Butland, Shaqiri, Shawcross would be disruptive to any manager? People need to get real - it is a careful balancing act to simply go out and spend millions on replacement players, when the majority of injuries mean they will return. We've seen a definite improvement last 2 games, a platform to build on. We need fighting support on this message board, not quitters.
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Post by Northy on Sept 25, 2016 6:54:05 GMT
Not good enough. Relegation form. He's no idea how to stop it either. Bye Mark. posted by a loony?
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Post by imho on Sept 25, 2016 7:14:16 GMT
Just posted on another thread that performances warrant 2 more games with a good performance in both and 1 win a minimum requirement, however the stats look worrying -
32 games left 38 points needed, last 32 games played 37 points gained.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Sept 25, 2016 8:06:04 GMT
Interesting to see a few of the Hughes in crowd have turned to the Hughes out side.
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Post by alster on Sept 25, 2016 8:23:00 GMT
Interesting to see a few of the Hughes in crowd have turned to the Hughes out side. Why's that so interesting he's running scared, that's why he keeps going back to his safety blanket of past it old pro's. He got an improved performance yesterday but you can't move forward with two players as useless on the ball as Whelan and Cameron in your midfield and his subs were horrific and actually only served to put us under pressure. I'm jumping off the fence and saying if he's not capable of being more radical I want him gone.
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Post by robinredcoat on Sept 25, 2016 8:26:27 GMT
Yesterday was better, there is no doubt about it, but it speaks volumes for where we are right now that a failure to beat a very poor team and only 2 shots on goal constitutes better. That isn't subjective, that's fact unfortunately. Good play in the middle third of the field is all very nice but it's in the two boxes that the game is won and lost. Sadly we weren't good enough in either yesterday. Ben Foster didn't make a single save, our goal came from the only quality delivery into the box in the whole 90 minutes. At the other end a combination of individual errors and poor defensive organisation cost us again and Lee Grant also made 2 very good saves. In short as bad as they were they made our goalie work harder than we did theirs.
Personally I think the writing has been on the wall for 12 months. At the start of last season we were similarly terrible but Butland played out of his skin to keep us in games. Remember how he saved us a hammering at Arsenal, kept us in the game at Norwich etc. The signs were there then, we put it down then to Shawcross being out, but we can't continue to make excuses. If after all this time we are so dependent on one player, then it speaks volumes for our lack of management. Last seasons inadequacies were hidden by a few good performances, but the trend was already there.
Back in 2013 Peter Coates took a very brave decision to sack the manager who had taken us a long way, because things were not getting better. Mark has taken us forward, there is no doubt about that, but equally there is no room for sentiment in top level football. I like Mark Hughes but I believe indecision and sentiment could cost us massively. My view would be we should go out and seek his replacement first. Go get the manager the investment in the team deserves, other clubs who have invested in a top coach/manager have seen it pay off. Southampton and Leicester being the classic example. That may sound harsh on a Mark and it inevitably is, but we have to put Stoke City FC above everything else.
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Post by rawli on Sept 25, 2016 8:30:43 GMT
I usually agree with most of your posts but I thought you were a Hughes fan until recently? So you're the one?
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Sept 25, 2016 8:35:39 GMT
Not good enough. Relegation form. He's no idea how to stop it either. Bye Mark. The only thing right here is your name.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2016 8:43:57 GMT
Hughes has got a 6th, 7th, 8th, three 9ths and a 10th with small clubs in this league and has managed 500 games.
As soon as someone names a manager we could attract who'd improve on him, fair enough. I really haven't heard one yet. Hughes isn't without flaws, but that's a seriously impressive body of work
No new manager could heal Butland's ankle quicker for a start.
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