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Post by TexasPotter on Sept 10, 2016 16:24:17 GMT
If he keeps with that midfield three and doesn't use Adam or Geoff in midfield soon for toughness. I'm moving into the Hughes out camp. For now, he's got to see the problems and address them not persist with them. The midfield is problem #1. If I also see John fucking walters at RW again to start a match I'm moving instantly into the Hughes out camp. I've fucking had it with that with Sobhi clearly more creative, a better passer and younger sitting doing nothing.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 10, 2016 16:24:21 GMT
Stoke fans have short memories He has more than enough in the bank to deserve the shit he's getting on here tonight The banks been robbed and burnt down mate.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 10, 2016 16:25:13 GMT
Hughes has got plenty in the bank to be given time to sort this out but an absolutely wank transfer window allied to a clearly befuddled manager really does spell danger.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 10, 2016 16:25:21 GMT
Backed Hughes. But things have got to change. If we get nothing from the next 2 games Sparky needs to walk. Warnock for me would sort things out. Players not working for Hughes. Neil fucking Warnock? We really have reached last chance saloon fuck me
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 16:27:15 GMT
That was our most worrying defeat yet. Where was the fight? Our players were giving in and hughes needs to sort this quickly. Last season towards the end you could forgive the players for being tired, but not when it is early in the season. Hughes has got himself in a mess and questions need to be asked. If he does lose his job, it is of his own making.
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Post by mrred on Sept 10, 2016 16:27:38 GMT
Genuine question. Why aren't our fucking diabolical players in the firing line? They're not playing for this club. With the strong exception of Joe Allen.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 10, 2016 16:28:13 GMT
He's got until Xmas from me.
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Post by scfc5 on Sept 10, 2016 16:28:28 GMT
It seems fairly simple to me. Get Charlie in alongside Allen, drop Imbula and bring back Bojan. Imbula isn't doing it. I don't care what he cost right now - those questions can be asked later - he needs to be benched.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 10, 2016 16:29:48 GMT
Genuine question. Why aren't our fucking diabolical players in the firing line? They're not playing for this club. With the strong exception of Joe Allen. Genuine answer. Who signed most of them and who plays them?
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Post by JC9 on Sept 10, 2016 16:29:49 GMT
I'm happy to get rid of him if someone can suggest a decent replacement which absolutely no fucker has done yet. H Like it or not Tony Pulis is the perfect candidate to get us out of trouble, shame that has zero chance of happening. You tool.
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Post by mrred on Sept 10, 2016 16:31:26 GMT
Genuine question. Why aren't our fucking diabolical players in the firing line? They're not playing for this club. With the strong exception of Joe Allen. Genuine answer. Who signed most of them and who plays them? So they're totally blameless for the shambolic form we've been in since March?
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Post by NassauDave on Sept 10, 2016 16:34:49 GMT
We have been utter shite for a long time now including the latter part of last season and Hughes has to take responsibility and step up or we really are fucked.
We are currently hopelessly inept.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 16:35:09 GMT
First time I have doubted Sparky but if we have not improved by the time we play Swansea on Halloween then he'd be gone for me. Try and coax Coleman out of the Wales job. Hull failed but he might be tempted. That's the only name I can think of that's affordable and actually fresh and exciting. But still a risk? Fresh and exciting? He qualified with a back 9 plus Bale.
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 10, 2016 16:35:51 GMT
Still too early. We have exactly the same amount of points as I thought we would so far in. The goal difference is worse than I hoped but knowing how we start a season(and this still needs to be sorted moving forward) did anyone really expect us to beat Man City, Spurs and Everton. Yes, we did better in respective fixtures last year, but we ALWAYS start slow under Hughes. I think we will get a win and a draw against West Brom and Palace and be on 5 points which is what I thought we would be at 6 games in. The only thing worrying me is the defence and forwards are as bad as each other together whereas last year it was either or, rarely both.
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Post by songthrush01 on Sept 10, 2016 16:36:39 GMT
really fucking pissed off with some of these idiots on here saying he has still got credit in the bank.anybody whos coached or managed or good observers can see that team dont know what there doing on the field.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 10, 2016 16:36:53 GMT
Waiting for the van outside the vw garage.
Clocks ticking Hughes.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 10, 2016 16:37:29 GMT
Genuine answer. Who signed most of them and who plays them? So they're totally blameless for the shambolic form we've been in since March? No they aren't. But at the end of the day the buck stops with the manager. When Tesco's profits fell it wasn't the checkout staff that got the boot.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 10, 2016 16:37:38 GMT
I'm not calling for Hughes to go, but it's becoming increasingly clear that there are problems and he's going to have to figure out what needs to change.....and quickly. I thought we did ok first half without creating anything clear cut, but the total collapse when we go behind is becoming far too frequent. We look disjointed, lacking in any visible game plan and devoid of ideas. He can't keep persisting with Walters on the right, he just offers nothing there. The decision to drop Bardsley was a strange one, thought he had done enough to keep his place and as much as I like Cameron, he's not a right back.
There needs to be a massive improvement over the next six games or some serious question will need to be asked.
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Post by Northy on Sept 10, 2016 16:38:18 GMT
yep fook hom off mow
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 16:38:40 GMT
really fucking pissed off with some of these idiots on here saying he has still got credit in the bank.anybody whos coached or managed or good observers can see that team dont know what there doing on the field. I'm glad that your pissed off.
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Post by fca47 on Sept 10, 2016 16:39:55 GMT
Imbula had a decent game today, Walters and Arnautovic should have been taken off if anybody. The wide positions whether fullbacks or wingers were useless today.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 10, 2016 16:40:51 GMT
Still too early. We have exactly the same amount of points as I thought we would so far in. The goal difference is worse than I hoped but knowing how we start a season(and this still needs to be sorted moving forward) did anyone really expect us to beat Man City, Spurs and Everton. Yes, we did better in respective fixtures last year, but we ALWAYS start slow under Hughes. I think we will get a win and a draw against West Brom and Palace and be on 5 points which is what I thought we would be at 6 games in. The only thing worrying me is the defence and forwards are as bad as each other together whereas last year it was either or, rarely both. This "we always start slow" shit is also another shambles. How about we start like we mean to go on for a change!
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 10, 2016 16:41:03 GMT
That was our most worrying defeat yet. Where was the fight? Our players were giving in and hughes needs to sort this quickly. Last season towards the end you could forgive the players for being tired, but not when it is early in the season. Hughes has got himself in a mess and questions need to be asked. If he does lose his job, it is of his own making. Can't argue with any of that
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 16:41:50 GMT
That's the only name I can think of that's affordable and actually fresh and exciting. But still a risk? Fresh and exciting? He qualified with a back 9 plus Bale. I mean as a name, not the usual old guff.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Sept 10, 2016 16:52:50 GMT
I've been annoyed and disappointed in a lot of performances but I like to think of myself as a fairly objective supporter and I've never once flirted with the idea that we need to change the manager. I'm not sure I think that right now but, apart from a few moments early in Hughes' tenure, today is the first time I can remember where I've been genuinely angry. The balance in the team is atrocious, it seems like we are short on numbers when attacking AND when defending which is one of those things that would be difficult to achieve if you were trying to. Absolutely right I have been a great supporter of Hughes but today's showing was poor. Little cohesion, no tactical awareness, no organisation and no heart. Yes we have finished 9th for 3 seasons but our performances this calendar year have been shocking. Not sure why we are where we are but Hughes does seem to have lost the plot with team selection and tactics. Worst of all there are serious question marks over 2 of his big money signings. Hopefully we will go back to basics and sort it out but if not I dont think the Coates family backing of the manager is guaranteed.
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Post by mf37 on Sept 10, 2016 16:54:27 GMT
It's not about a "typical slow start" to the season or judging Hughes after just four games. The team has been in free fall since January. It's been 23 games now that this has been going on.
Since January, we've conceded a whopping 46 goals and only scored 23. The team has only kept two clean sheets in all of 2016.
Since January we're averaging just 1.04 points per game. That works out to a 39.6 point season - teetering on safety.
The last 10 fixtures are even worse: 1 win No clean sheets Shut-out 4 of 10 Conceded 4+ goals 5 of 10 0.4 points per game
You could argue that it's too early to talk about sacking Hughes or you could look at a long running trend and ask why Hughes hasn't been able to right the ship? (And if it's injuries, isn't Hughes even more culpable for not bringing in proper cover?)
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Post by ryan4england on Sept 10, 2016 17:00:01 GMT
It's not about a "typical slow start" to the season or judging Hughes after just four games. The team has been in free fall since January. It's been 23 games now that this has been going on. Since January, we've conceded a whopping 46 goals and only scored 23. The team has only kept two clean sheets in all of 2016. Since January we're averaging just 1.04 points per game. That works out to a 39.6 point season - teetering on safety. The last 10 fixtures are even worse: 1 win No clean sheets Shut-out 4 of 10 Conceded 4+ goals 5 of 10 0.4 points per game You could argue that it's too early to talk about sacking Hughes or you could look at a long running trend and ask why Hughes hasn't been able to right the ship? (And if it's injuries, isn't Hughes even more culpable for not bringing in proper cover?) Good post. Its Time for fresh ideas
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 10, 2016 17:03:21 GMT
It's not about a "typical slow start" to the season or judging Hughes after just four games. The team has been in free fall since January. It's been 23 games now that this has been going on. Since January, we've conceded a whopping 46 goals and only scored 23. The team has only kept two clean sheets in all of 2016. Since January we're averaging just 1.04 points per game. That works out to a 39.6 point season - teetering on safety. The last 10 fixtures are even worse: 1 win No clean sheets Shut-out 4 of 10 Conceded 4+ goals 5 of 10 0.4 points per game You could argue that it's too early to talk about sacking Hughes or you could look at a long running trend and ask why Hughes hasn't been able to right the ship? (And if it's injuries, isn't Hughes even more culpable for not bringing in proper cover?) Very worrying. Hughes looks to have come unstuck as soon as he was given money to rebuild the spine of the team. Its happened before though. He needs to grow some balls now, drop imbula, reinforce that midfield with Cameron to try and get some organisation and work ethic back, and give sobhi a chance as every other attacking player is playing shit. I'd give him until next week. Another defeat and he has to go
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Post by trigger on Sept 10, 2016 17:05:35 GMT
I'm firmly in the Hughes out brigade.
We're a team that can't score and can't defend and Hughes looks totally incapable of doing anything remotely about it.
A team that on paper should be top ten but a manager devoid of what to do with his players, definitely needs to go.
Steve Bruce for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 17:06:51 GMT
I'm firmly in the Hughes out brigade. We're a team that can't score and can't defend and Hughes looks totally incapable of doing anything remotely about it. A team that on paper should be top ten but a manager devoid of what to do with his players, definitely needs to go. Stage Bruce for me. Bruce FFS!
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