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Post by gingerninja on Sept 7, 2016 15:43:32 GMT
Which Stoke players contracts exspire summer 2017?
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Post by bolders on Sept 7, 2016 15:52:39 GMT
Given
Crouch
Adam
Johnson
Afellay
Bardsley
Ireland
Tex
Bachmann
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Post by alster on Sept 7, 2016 15:58:44 GMT
Given Crouch Adam Johnson Afellay Bardsley Ireland Tex Bachmann Unless they prove themselves after various injuries/not being picked I'd let the lot go there must be a lot of wages there for very little return. And yes I know some of them are really good players when fit. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 7, 2016 16:06:42 GMT
I'd let all of that lot go.
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Post by bolders on Sept 7, 2016 16:07:05 GMT
Bachmann and Afellay (if fine after injury) I'd extend
Adam will want to go play regularly football
The rest can leave for me
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 7, 2016 16:07:30 GMT
Given Crouch Adam Johnson Afellay Bardsley Ireland Tex Bachmann Unless they prove themselves after various injuries/not being picked I'd let the lot go there must be a lot of wages there for very little return. And yes I know some of them are really good players when fit. If Johnson can prove his fitness after his current lay off I'd give him another year, if we let them both go we'll need to sign 2 right backs having none at the club. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 7, 2016 16:10:19 GMT
Unless they prove themselves after various injuries/not being picked I'd let the lot go there must be a lot of wages there for very little return. And yes I know some of them are really good players when fit. If Johnson can prove his fitness after his current lay off I'd give him another year, if we let them both go we'll need to sign 2 right backs having none at the club. It's why really we need one this summer. It's very bad planning. Johnson seems to have spent as much time out as on the pitch. I just don't see how he or Afellay with their age and injury records (older and current) warrant a deal. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Sept 7, 2016 16:14:18 GMT
If Johnson can prove his fitness after his current lay off I'd give him another year, if we let them both go we'll need to sign 2 right backs having none at the club. It's why really we need one this summer. It's very bad planning. Johnson seems to have spent as much time out as on the pitch. I just don't see how he or Afellay with their age and injury records (older and current) warrant a deal. 100%. Our lack of singing any bloody full back (we need 1 left and 1 right) tainted this window for me. Next summer we will need 3. |
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Post by walrus on Sept 7, 2016 16:17:06 GMT
New offers for Affelay and Johnson are very much dependent on how well they do when they're finally fit again.
I'd argue that Bardsley's worth another year. He always give his all, has had some good games recently, and is a very experienced senior player. It can't harm to have dedicated professionals like him around the club.
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Post by alster on Sept 7, 2016 16:17:45 GMT
Unless they prove themselves after various injuries/not being picked I'd let the lot go there must be a lot of wages there for very little return. And yes I know some of them are really good players when fit. If Johnson can prove his fitness after his current lay off I'd give him another year, if we let them both go we'll need to sign 2 right backs having none at the club. He's a good player but he's been a sick note for quite a few years can't see the situation improving. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 7, 2016 16:21:06 GMT
New offers for Affelay and Johnson are very much dependent on how well they do when they're finally fit again. I'd argue that Bardsley's worth another year. He always give his all, has had some good games recently, and is a very experienced senior player. It can't harm to have dedicated professionals like him around the club. I'd say he's probably the only one out of that list (for various reasons) who we might retain. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 16:23:04 GMT
I suppose it makes sense as to why we've done this summer on the relative cheap.
6 home grown players to replace (or is it 4? Given? and Adam? not classed as home grown) is huge in this market.
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Post by alster on Sept 7, 2016 16:25:57 GMT
New offers for Affelay and Johnson are very much dependent on how well they do when they're finally fit again. I'd argue that Bardsley's worth another year. He always give his all, has had some good games recently, and is a very experienced senior player. It can't harm to have dedicated professionals like him around the club. I'd say he's probably the only one out of that list (for various reasons) who we might retain. Naah too old, too much wages, not good enough going forward, fairly injury prone too. I'm fairly certain you could get younger and better for less wages, not that thats what I'd advocate invest in quality I'd say. |
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Post by bolders on Sept 7, 2016 16:27:54 GMT
So January and the summer window we will be looking for 2 x rbs 1 x lb 1 x cb 1 x cm 1 x w and 1 x st
2 big and expensive Windows
Maybe give Bardsley an extra year and maybe Afellay ( dependant on injury) or Adam an extra year
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Post by nott1 on Sept 7, 2016 16:34:49 GMT
So January and the summer window we will be looking for 2 x rbs 1 x lb 1 x cb 1 x cm 1 x w and 1 x st 2 big and expensive Windows Maybe give Bardsley an extra year and maybe Afellay ( dependant on injury) or Adam an extra year Could be a youngster or two ready by then? |
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Post by bolders on Sept 7, 2016 16:41:53 GMT
So January and the summer window we will be looking for 2 x rbs 1 x lb 1 x cb 1 x cm 1 x w and 1 x st 2 big and expensive Windows Maybe give Bardsley an extra year and maybe Afellay ( dependant on injury) or Adam an extra year Could be a youngster or two ready by then? Telford Ngoy Taylor Sweeney And maybe the Belgium lad starting with a V ( can't remember his name) We can hope |
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Post by nonameface on Sept 7, 2016 16:43:03 GMT
Would be good to see some of the youth players coming through as largely alot of the named players are squad fillers.
Given, Bachmann - the club don't trust bachmann or we wouldn't have signed grant to be givens back up. We do need a replacement number 2.
Crouch - unclear what best to do until the team know how to attack and score but we've got enough youth strikers to give a chance for 10-30minutes a match.
Adam, Ireland, Afellay - all three are good players but we could get rid of one or all and replace some with the likes of Shenton, Lecgyne considering the amount of game time they are likely to get it wouldn't weaken us significantly and would save cash for other areas.
Johnson,Bardsley - Johnson is easily the better player when he can play but if he can't there's no point. We should spend relatively well on a young experienced right back and keep Bardsley.
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Post by stokecity4eva on Sept 7, 2016 16:48:17 GMT
Would be good to see some of the youth players coming through as largely alot of the named players are squad fillers. Given, Bachmann - the club don't trust bachmann or we wouldn't have signed grant to be givens back up. We do need a replacement number 2. Crouch - unclear what best to do until the team know how to attack and score but we've got enough youth strikers to give a chance for 10-30minutes a match. Adam, Ireland, Afellay - all three are good players but we could get rid of one or all and replace some with the likes of Shenton, Lecgyne considering the amount of game time they are likely to get it wouldn't weaken us significantly and would save cash for other areas. Johnson,Bardsley - Johnson is easily the better player when he can play but if he can't there's no point. We should spend relatively well on a young experienced right back and keep Bardsley. Bachmann desperately needs game time hes being wasted in the u23s the club needed to loan him out if they werent guna have him as given's back up |
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Post by nonameface on Sept 7, 2016 16:50:31 GMT
Would be good to see some of the youth players coming through as largely alot of the named players are squad fillers. Given, Bachmann - the club don't trust bachmann or we wouldn't have signed grant to be givens back up. We do need a replacement number 2. Crouch - unclear what best to do until the team know how to attack and score but we've got enough youth strikers to give a chance for 10-30minutes a match. Adam, Ireland, Afellay - all three are good players but we could get rid of one or all and replace some with the likes of Shenton, Lecgyne considering the amount of game time they are likely to get it wouldn't weaken us significantly and would save cash for other areas. Johnson,Bardsley - Johnson is easily the better player when he can play but if he can't there's no point. We should spend relatively well on a young experienced right back and keep Bardsley. Bachmann desperately needs game time hes being wasted in the u23s the club needed to loan him out if they werent guna have him as given's back up Completely agree, the decision to keep him here and not find him a 6m or yr loan doesn't add up. Maybe there weren't any league teams looking to have him on loan where they could say he was likely to be the no1? From his comments to the sentinel He seems determined to show how good he is which is promising to see. |
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Post by foster on Sept 7, 2016 17:47:46 GMT
I'd keep Given, Adam and Bardsley providing they accept reduced wages as backups.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 7, 2016 17:51:50 GMT
Would be good to see some of the youth players coming through as largely alot of the named players are squad fillers. Given, Bachmann - the club don't trust bachmann or we wouldn't have signed grant to be givens back up. We do need a replacement number 2. Crouch - unclear what best to do until the team know how to attack and score but we've got enough youth strikers to give a chance for 10-30minutes a match. Adam, Ireland, Afellay - all three are good players but we could get rid of one or all and replace some with the likes of Shenton, Lecgyne considering the amount of game time they are likely to get it wouldn't weaken us significantly and would save cash for other areas. Johnson,Bardsley - Johnson is easily the better player when he can play but if he can't there's no point. We should spend relatively well on a young experienced right back and keep Bardsley. Bachmann desperately needs game time hes being wasted in the u23s the club needed to loan him out if they werent guna have him as given's back up He's been loaned out a few times and hasn't played for the u23s for a while! And probably hasn't played more than 10 games for them in last 2 seasons. |
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Post by Stoke711 on Sept 7, 2016 18:18:13 GMT
If Afellay and Johnson come back from their injuries and are able to get a good run of games without any injuries I'd give them both a 1 yr extension.
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Post by basingstokie on Sept 7, 2016 19:07:48 GMT
My current view is I would expect to keep Johnson, Affelay, Adam and Bardsley, rest to go. But it's a long season and there are no definites in the retain or leave camp currently
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Post by Gods on Sept 7, 2016 19:19:05 GMT
Busy summer ahead, to some extent it will depend on whether we are still in the Prem  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 19:46:21 GMT
New offers for Affelay and Johnson are very much dependent on how well they do when they're finally fit again. I'd argue that Bardsley's worth another year. He always give his all, has had some good games recently, and is a very experienced senior player. It can't harm to have dedicated professionals like him around the club. Agree and Bards is fine too. Some people just want to throw out decent squad players and good honest pros. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 19:48:49 GMT
Busy summer ahead, to some extent it will depend on whether we are still in the Prem Behave  |
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Post by Plave on Sept 7, 2016 19:52:55 GMT
Afellay is a fantastic player and easily one of our best 3 last season before his injury. He's only just turned 30 and with his reputation is probably the only one on that list who would still have some value if offered a new contract. Has to be a yes.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 7, 2016 19:54:56 GMT
Afellay is a fantastic player and easily one of our best 3 last season before his injury. He's only just turned 30 and with his reputation is probably the only one on that list who would still have some value if offered a new contract. Has to be a yes. His reputation is of being a crock who gets big injuries and is out for long periods of time. Get him gone. |
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Post by timbo1988 on Sept 7, 2016 19:58:28 GMT
Get Bardsley gone as well! Rumours were he was on 30-40 grand a week which is far too much!
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Post by RichJonesy on Sept 7, 2016 20:49:16 GMT
I'd want to keep one of the right backs off that list just because I can't see us signing two!
Or sign a Moreno Torricelli from champ man 01/02 style player (D L/C/R)
Keep the Thunder Bastard to!!!
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