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Post by Dave the Rave on Aug 31, 2016 22:11:33 GMT
But then, even if we'd spent £50-60m he'd still be in the team anyhow.
Irreplaceable......
Which other premier league team would he get in every week?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 22:23:38 GMT
But then, even if we'd spent £50-60m he'd still be in the team anyhow. Irreplaceable...... Which other premier league team would he get in every week? Maybe Hull, post sickness bug. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 31, 2016 22:24:14 GMT
WBA.
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Post by TheMmaeestro on Aug 31, 2016 22:28:07 GMT
Idrissa Gueye would have been perfect imo
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Post by StatesideStokie on Aug 31, 2016 22:37:08 GMT
But then, even if we'd spent £50-60m he'd still be in the team anyhow. Irreplaceable...... Which other premier league team would he get in every week? don't see an urgent need to replace him just yet. Long term, yes....but he's still got plenty to offer this season. |
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Post by imho on Aug 31, 2016 22:42:39 GMT
If you except what Glen can and cannot do and ask him to do a job (sit in front of back four and pass to the nearest player) then it's actually quite hard to find anyone better without spending 20/30 million
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Post by prudhoessafehands on Aug 31, 2016 22:43:49 GMT
He played very well at Everton..doing his own job and Imbulas
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Post by chrisparker on Aug 31, 2016 23:04:03 GMT
Idrissa Gueye would have been perfect imo We've missed out on him haven't we though. If only the transfer team had listened to the informed opinions on the oatcake .... |
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Sept 1, 2016 3:56:58 GMT
I prefer Glenn Whelan to Imbula. I think Glenn is going to be very hard to replace. His commitment is unquestionable a great loyal servant to the club and i would like to more players have the commitment as him . I love Glenn Whelan
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Post by djduncanjames on Sept 1, 2016 4:00:09 GMT
Super Glenn. What a guy. Hardest at Stoke as well hands down
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 4:01:57 GMT
Of current outfield players, Glenn must surely be pretty high up in a list of most PL appearances for their current club?
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Post by oslostokie1 on Sept 1, 2016 4:10:01 GMT
Idrissa Gueye would have been perfect imo IMO, N'Golo Kante would have been better still.... |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Sept 1, 2016 6:42:32 GMT
If you except what Glen can and cannot do and ask him to do a job (sit in front of back four and pass to the nearest player) then it's actually quite hard to find anyone better without spending 20/30 million Midfielders who can control a ball and pass can't be that hard to come by surely? Glenda is another player who lives off his work rate, but isn't actually a very good footballer at all. If we want to turn defence into attack quickly, we need a better holding midfielder. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 1, 2016 6:43:55 GMT
If you except what Glen can and cannot do and ask him to do a job (sit in front of back four and pass to the nearest player) then it's actually quite hard to find anyone better without spending 20/30 million Midfielders who can control a ball and pass can't be that hard to come by surely? Glenda is another player who lives off his work rate, but isn't actually a very good footballer at all. If we want to turn defence into attack quickly, we need a better holding midfielder. I don't necessarily disagree, but there's a lot more to the role than controlling a ball and passing it. |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Sept 1, 2016 6:46:10 GMT
Midfielders who can control a ball and pass can't be that hard to come by surely? Glenda is another player who lives off his work rate, but isn't actually a very good footballer at all. If we want to turn defence into attack quickly, we need a better holding midfielder. I don't necessarily disagree, but there's a lot more to the role than controlling a ball and passing it. There is, but they are the attributes he severely lacks and it massively hinders the team at times. If Imbula had a decent work rate he'd be an ideal replacement. |
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Post by malteser68 on Sept 1, 2016 6:48:41 GMT
Hendrick was my preferred long term choice
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Post by djduncanjames on Sept 1, 2016 6:50:58 GMT
I don't necessarily disagree, but there's a lot more to the role than controlling a ball and passing it. There is, but they are the attributes he severely lacks and it massively hinders the team at times. If Imbula had a decent work rate he'd be an ideal replacement. Not a chance. Glenn is a tough little bastard, Gianelli hmmmm not so much. I think it would be suicide to put Imbula there in a proper league match |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 1, 2016 6:53:34 GMT
I don't necessarily disagree, but there's a lot more to the role than controlling a ball and passing it. There is, but they are the attributes he severely lacks and it massively hinders the team at times. If Imbula had a decent work rate he'd be an ideal replacement. It's the discipline off the ball we lack agree. Even if we sack off the holding role altogether, someone's got to be prepared to sit and plug the gaps if someone else bombs forward. Maybe Allen can do that but it remains to be seen. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 1, 2016 6:56:30 GMT
Cameron is the cover .
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Post by foster on Sept 1, 2016 6:56:55 GMT
I think we should have enough in the team to accommodate having no Glenn in the starting line up. Whether this be a change in formation or tactics.
We've got plenty of good midfielders. It's up to the management to figure out how best to utilise them. Anymore central players in with no one leaving would be overkill.
We've probably got 1 or 2 too many as it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 14:54:20 GMT
Joe Allen is our best keeper, left back,right back,centre back,midfielder and striker.
The guys is great.
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Post by thehoof on Sept 1, 2016 15:52:07 GMT
GW must be the best defensive midfielder ever- not only has he had a position named after him (THE GLEN WHELAN role), but when the defender, wingers and just about everyone else has been slagged off for our woeful defending, this paragon of virtue has managed to escape any criticism- yet his main role has supposedly been to protect the space in front of the CB''s.
For £0.5m he has been an absolute bargain, but for the last 12 months he has been at best average. It says it all that no one is coming through to threaten a man who has the pace of Long John Silver and quite often looks as if he would struggle to trap a bag of cement with one touch.
Commitment can't be questioned but I am disappointed that we have not signed or promoted a replacement; for me (and MH clearly disagrees) his place should be on the bench.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 1, 2016 15:59:52 GMT
I don't necessarily disagree, but there's a lot more to the role than controlling a ball and passing it. There is, but they are the attributes he severely lacks and it massively hinders the team at times. If Imbula had a decent work rate he'd be an ideal replacement. Imbula isn't a DM so would be a pretty shit replacement. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Sept 1, 2016 16:04:09 GMT
Yann M'villa could have done the job.
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Post by RichJonesy on Sept 1, 2016 16:04:20 GMT
Joe Allen is our best keeper, left back,right back,centre back,midfielder and striker. The guys is great. Second best RB. Mame Biram Diouf is our best RB |
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Post by Gods on Sept 1, 2016 16:04:23 GMT
Hendrick was my preferred long term choice He's certainly a tricky customer on a damp track, not particularly quick but drops it on and around off stump on a nagging good length. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 1, 2016 16:04:46 GMT
this paragon of virtue has managed to escape any criticism- Are you joking?! |
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Post by alster on Sept 1, 2016 16:05:07 GMT
GW must be the best defensive midfielder ever- not only has he had a position named after him (THE GLEN WHELAN role), but when the defender, wingers and just about everyone else has been slagged off for our woeful defending, this paragon of virtue has managed to escape any criticism- yet his main role has supposedly been to protect the space in front of the CB''s. For £0.5m he has been an absolute bargain, but for the last 12 months he has been at best average. It says it all that no one is coming through to threaten a man who has the pace of Long John Silver and quite often looks as if he would struggle to trap a bag of cement with one touch. Commitment can't be questioned but I am disappointed that we have not signed or promoted a replacement; for me (and MH clearly disagrees) his place should be on the bench. I fully agree, I just don't see other teams aspiring to top half of Prem and Euro qualification playing DM's that offer so little. Not a ball winner, not a passer, not an imposing physical destroyer, not massively mobile, not at all creative, not much height, not fast. Commitment and positional discipline are great but at this level you expect a bit more. |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 1, 2016 16:12:14 GMT
this paragon of virtue has managed to escape any criticism- Are you joking?! I was thinking the same. I can only assume this was posted by somebody who's rarely read any post-match thread's on here because Whelan has had more than his fair share of criticism and abuse, despite being one of our most consistent performers over the last few seasons. |
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 1, 2016 16:20:48 GMT
I don't necessarily disagree, but there's a lot more to the role than controlling a ball and passing it. There is, but they are the attributes he severely lacks and it massively hinders the team at times. If Imbula had a decent work rate he'd be an ideal replacement. It's a lot more than merely work rate. Whelan has discipline which imbula lacks, has fight which imbula lacks, reads the game well which imbula lacks. He is no way a Whelan replacement (or capable of being.) as he is a completely different player who whilst having technical ability, hasn't a defensive bone in his body which may be an issue if he were to replace Glenn in that DEFENSIVE midfield position. People think any old player can play Whelan's role but it is one of the most important and unrecognised roles in our team. Moreover, anyone who claims 'he isn't very good at football' is completely wrong. How to you define a 'good footballer'? Is it someone like Imbula who has all the technical ability in the world but is occasionally ineffective? Or is it someone like Whelan who may lack the ability to do stepovers or beat a man, but does a job so well we haven't been able to replace during half a decade of trying? |
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