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Post by mattador78 on Aug 20, 2016 18:46:52 GMT
2 games we've played one against one of the champion's elect. 108 points left to play for and we did not put on a 4-1 defeat worthy performance it flattered them more than we were embarressed. Yes there where flaws yes there were problems, we could spend the rest of the season higlighting all of the mistakes and what ifs. Or we could buck up chest out and get behind the team i am.
VIS UNITA FORTIOR.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 20, 2016 18:48:55 GMT
Or we could crate a chance.
I'm not normally so pessimistic, but I have to admit I'm worried, nothings been addressed.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 20, 2016 18:50:26 GMT
I Tweeted as I left the ground that it's not often you lose 4-1 and think you've played well but I did today.
Thing with message boards is that all the issues you raise are highlighted in one condensed format so it might appear more doom and gloom than it actually is.
I've been on about some of the poor stuff tonight even though I thought we were quite decent today.
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Post by trentvale68 on Aug 20, 2016 18:50:53 GMT
Isnt there already a thread about moaning? Or was it about moaning about moaning??
Ive lost track now; it gets more & more like the night of the long knives on here after every result
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Post by sufolkstokie on Aug 20, 2016 18:52:25 GMT
2 games we've played one against one of the champion's elect. 108 points left to play for and we did not put on a 4-1 defeat worthy performance it flattered them more than we were embarressed. Yes there where flaws yes there were problems, we could spend the rest of the season higlighting all of the mistakes and what ifs. Or we could buck up chest out and get behind the team i am. VIS UNITA FORTIOR. But people are discussing the genuine flaws which you yourself have alluded too. They have not been addressed. No one can argue with that? Ignore the Biscuit brigade and the how dare you have a go at Hughes brigade and most comments are very valid re fullbacks, concerns over Ryan and our remaining issues with lack of goal threats never mind goals Joe Allen was immense but we have so far, yet again, failed to strengthen on our biggest weaknesses |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 20, 2016 18:53:03 GMT
The contra view accepting it's all about opinions Ian I'm utterly sick of we don't deserve to lose 4-1 we've done it twice in 4 home games .
We absolutely got what we deserved and until we make some major improvments we will contnue to get what we deserve.
I don't expect another sniff of a point until WBA .
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Post by kustokie on Aug 20, 2016 18:55:30 GMT
I don't care if we're playing Crystal Palace or Barcelona, we can't be conceding four goals at home if we want to be a top-10 team. We've had more than 12 months to sort the center half situation out and we've done nowt about it. I think I have every right to be very, very pissed off.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 20, 2016 18:56:29 GMT
Isnt there already a thread about moaning? Or was it about moaning about moaning?? Ive lost track now; it gets more & more like the night of the long knives on here after every result Probably because we haven't won yet.The fans are getting impatient. If we lose on Saturday which is likely,i don't think i will bother coming on. If we lose on Tuesday,well can you imagine?  |
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Post by wuzza on Aug 20, 2016 19:00:45 GMT
We really are not talking about just this game or even the last two games. This is all part of rather a long drawn out malaise that has lasted for a considerable time.
Need some signs that things are progressing and we are getting back on track.
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 20, 2016 19:46:47 GMT
Isnt there already a thread about moaning? Or was it about moaning about moaning?? Ive lost track now; it gets more & more like the night of the long knives on here after every result Its more a thread for forget the moaning the seasons not reached puberty yet let alone it climax. We lost but too be honest i couldnt give a fuck ive watched us get hammered by really shit teams playing really shit but we were worse. So im going have a beer watch the Olympics go bed and still support stoke in the morning because whats the worst that could happen Ps mike dean your a cunt infact cunts are useful, your a fuckin rancid pile of dog shit in an overflowing sewer in Mexico city in a heatwave what has just been vomitted on by an ebola ridden member of isis who is being bummed by a neo nazi with aids.(allegedly) |
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Post by sportsman on Aug 20, 2016 19:49:12 GMT
Isnt there already a thread about moaning? Or was it about moaning about moaning?? Ive lost track now; it gets more & more like the night of the long knives on here after every result Its more a thread for forget the moaning the seasons not reached puberty yet let alone it climax. We lost but too be honest i couldnt give a fuck ive watched us get hammered by really shit teams playing really shit but we were worse. So im going have a beer watch the Olympics go bed and still support stoke in the morning because whats the worst that could happen Ps mike dean your a cunt infact cunts are useful, your a fuckin rancid pile of dog shit in an overflowing sewer in Mexico city in a heatwave what has just been vomitted on by an ebola ridden member of isis who is being bummed by a neo nazi with aids. You tell him mate! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 19:50:36 GMT
We've got to be careful that we don't bury our heads in the sand to our current frailties. We might all disagree as to what they exactly are, and where we need to strengthen or change, but only a fool would admit that everything is rosy in the garden, because it plainly isn't. We look rocky at the back and we are not creating anywhere near enough chances. No clear cut chances in open play last week and only one real chance (from a bloody right back!) this week. It's not enough, nowhere near enough.
Has it got to the stage of calling for the manager? No, but I question how long it will take for the first cries to appear.
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 20, 2016 19:52:06 GMT
We've got to be careful that we don't bury our heads in the sand to our current frailties. We might all disagree as to what they exactly are, and where we need to strengthen or change, but only a fool would admit that everything is rosy in the garden, because it plainly isn't. We look rocky at the back and we are not creating anywhere near enough chances. No clear cut chances in open play last week and only one real chance (from a bloody right back!) this week. It's not enough, nowhere near enough. Has it got to the stage of calling for the manager? No, but I question how long it will take for the first cries to appear. Pulis out? |
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Post by manmarking on Aug 20, 2016 19:52:27 GMT
The issue is that there's no nuance on here. It's either "everything is fine and only a traitor would question anything that Hughes does" or "everything is awful, Ryan needs stripping of the captaincy and we're doomed". The reality, as ever, is somewhere in between. We've made great progress but there are some really worrying issues that need addressing soon  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 19:52:44 GMT
We've got to be careful that we don't bury our heads in the sand to our current frailties. We might all disagree as to what they exactly are, and where we need to strengthen or change, but only a fool would admit that everything is rosy in the garden, because it plainly isn't. We look rocky at the back and we are not creating anywhere near enough chances. No clear cut chances in open play last week and only one real chance (from a bloody right back!) this week. It's not enough, nowhere near enough. Has it got to the stage of calling for the manager? No, but I question how long it will take for the first cries to appear. Pulis out? Have a word with march4, he's having memory issues. |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Aug 20, 2016 19:53:04 GMT
I don't care if we're playing Crystal Palace or Barcelona, we can't be conceding four goals at home if we want to be a top-10 team. We've had more than 12 months to sort the center half situation out and we've done nowt about it. I think I have every right to be very, very pissed off. We are a top ten team and have conceded 4 goals at home before. |
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 20, 2016 19:54:47 GMT
Have a word with march4, he's having memory issues. Thats why he keeps repeating Swansea for relagation as its more a memory thing than a statement. |
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Post by no1972 on Aug 20, 2016 20:14:44 GMT
People are worried ,it shows they care for the club and team.Its taken us years to get where we are,unless you have lived supporting Stoke over the last 40+ years then you may not understand the crap we have had to put up with,toss players empty terraces .We don't want to go back to those days.Football can be cruel and I bet if you asked a lot of teams in the championship about how long they have been in there without any chance of getting back.You would be worried with our present squad.
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Post by no1972 on Aug 20, 2016 20:18:28 GMT
I don't care if we're playing Crystal Palace or Barcelona, we can't be conceding four goals at home if we want to be a top-10 team. We've had more than 12 months to sort the center half situation out and we've done nowt about it. I think I have every right to be very, very pissed off. We are a top ten team and have conceded 4 goals at home before. It's not so long ago Newcaslte were in the top half.Were we finished last season is history.But what is worrying is our form the last 15 games. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 20:25:07 GMT
King Spot on bro !
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Post by scfc75 on Aug 20, 2016 20:34:33 GMT
We are a top ten team and have conceded 4 goals at home before. It's not so long ago Newcaslte were in the top half.Were we finished last season is history.But what is worrying is our form the last 15 games. Won 5, Drawn 4, Lost 6. 19 points from 15 games, average 1.26pts per game, 48 over a season (would have finished 11th last season with that points tally). |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Aug 20, 2016 22:02:42 GMT
It's not so long ago Newcaslte were in the top half.Were we finished last season is history.But what is worrying is our form the last 15 games. Won 5, Drawn 4, Lost 6. 19 points from 15 games, average 1.26pts per game, 48 over a season (would have finished 11th last season with that points tally). Whoa there! Don't let facts get in the way of anything! |
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Post by maliciousdamage on Aug 20, 2016 22:06:18 GMT
Score flattered them they weren't that good imo but due to the fact we still haven't addressed the issues from last season we still came out second best I just hope Hughes can find a second keeper CB cover for left back, DM and Striker in two weeks as this is the issue of no strength in depth the bench today looked light
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