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Post by chrisparker on Aug 20, 2016 16:59:34 GMT
Can he do a job upfront. Technically he's everything we're looking for in a striker, he's strong, he's fast, he can hold up play, he's got a good understanding with the midfielders behind him, he's generally injury-free & he's capable of scoring important goals as he proved last season.
It's a gamble & we'll lose his defensive capabilities but it's probably the best option we've got right now. Diouf just doesn't suit our style of play. It's not like we put too many crosses in the box anyways.
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Post by djduncanjames on Aug 20, 2016 17:15:00 GMT
I'm no armchair manager or tactician by any means but this would be wild !
Arnie
Bojan
Sobhi Allen Imbula Shaqiri
Erik Ryan Wooly Johnson
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Post by oslostokie1 on Aug 20, 2016 17:23:14 GMT
I think it's worth a try but I guess we will got through the ritual of giving Walters a couple of games, then Joselu, and finally Crouch before we realise again that they are not all up to the job
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Aug 20, 2016 17:24:42 GMT
He's never done that well down the middle, maybe it maybe worth another go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 17:25:24 GMT
Not firing on all cylinders today
some moments of genius mixed up with some mistakes
and not fully fit yet - or carrying a niggle I reckon
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 17:25:48 GMT
He can threaten from the left though? And track back. He's q bonus from the week. Just need to teach him to supply the striker every now and again.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 20, 2016 17:27:40 GMT
Can we keep him where he is and just sign Bony?
That way Arnie, Shaq and Bojan can play off him in and around the 18 yard box instead of near the half way line.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 17:28:29 GMT
Can we keep him where he is and just sign Bony? That way Arnie, Shaq and Bojan can play off him in and around the 18 yard box instead of near the half way line. Good idea 💡
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 20, 2016 17:49:56 GMT
He can threaten from the left though? And track back. He's q bonus from the week. Just need to teach him to supply the striker every now and again. There is a problem with that theory....... We dont have an adequate striker to supply
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 17:57:48 GMT
He can threaten from the left though? And track back. He's q bonus from the week. Just need to teach him to supply the striker every now and again. There is a problem with that theory....... We dont have an adequate striker to supply The problem is the lack of supply. The A to B. B could be Aguero and he'd get nothing. Our issue is the supply to the forward, it always is.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 20, 2016 17:59:16 GMT
There is a problem with that theory....... We dont have an adequate striker to supply The problem is the lack of supply. The A to B. B could be Aguero and he'd get nothing. Our issue is the supply to the forward, it always is. That's half right but we haven't got the right sort of forward on our books. We need a striker who can play with his back to goal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 18:01:49 GMT
The problem is the lack of supply. The A to B. B could be Aguero and he'd get nothing. Our issue is the supply to the forward, it always is. That's half right but we haven't got the right sort of forward on our books. We need a striker who can play with his back to goal. So he can pass to the winger before they ignore him?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 20, 2016 18:03:55 GMT
That's half right but we haven't got the right sort of forward on our books. We need a striker who can play with his back to goal. So he can pass to the winger before they ignore him? No so we can move our attacking play from near the half way line to their box. We'd get more goals from the trio behind him and someone like Bony would get into the box too.
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 20, 2016 18:06:47 GMT
There is a problem with that theory....... We dont have an adequate striker to supply The problem is the lack of supply. The A to B. B could be Aguero and he'd get nothing. Our issue is the supply to the forward, it always is. But there is nobody there to supply Jase, there is no striker in the positions that matter, I know you like Diouf mate, but he is just not good enough. The argument was that he was being played out of position previously, today he wasn't and he was extremely poor! We desperately need a new striker, if we couldn't find one then i think eventually Sobhi could play on the wing (or get a new top winger) and think Arnie could do a job centerally! Not if it can be helped but I think its and option
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 18:08:07 GMT
The problem is the lack of supply. The A to B. B could be Aguero and he'd get nothing. Our issue is the supply to the forward, it always is. But there is nobody there to supply Jase, there is no striker in the positions that matter, I know you like Diouf mate, but he is just not good enough. The argument was that he was being played out of position previously, today he wasn't and he was extremely poor! We desperately need a new striker, if we couldn't find one then i think eventually Sobhi could play on the wing (or get a new top winger) and think Arnie could do a job centerally! Not if it can be helped but I think its and option I'd love us to find a prolific striker to solve all issues. It probably isn't Diouf but at the moment I fear it won't be anyone until the 3 behind the striker bang their heads together.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 18:08:42 GMT
So he can pass to the winger before they ignore him? No so we can move our attacking play from near the half way line to their box. We'd get more goals from the trio behind him and someone like Bony would get into the box too. Like a Joselu? Who can't get into the squad?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 20, 2016 18:11:09 GMT
But there is nobody there to supply Jase, there is no striker in the positions that matter, I know you like Diouf mate, but he is just not good enough. The argument was that he was being played out of position previously, today he wasn't and he was extremely poor! We desperately need a new striker, if we couldn't find one then i think eventually Sobhi could play on the wing (or get a new top winger) and think Arnie could do a job centerally! Not if it can be helped but I think its and option I'd love us to find a prolific striker to solve all issues. It probably isn't Diouf but at the moment I fear it won't be anyone until the 3 behind the striker bang their heads together. It's not how good a finisher the player is though. It's how they hold the ball up that will transform the 3 behind him. For the system to work we need a striker to receive the ball and lay off to those three so they can get beyond the point man. At the minute every time the ball goes forward it comes back with interest so invariably they ignore that option and end up over playing it and losing the ball.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 20, 2016 18:11:48 GMT
No so we can move our attacking play from near the half way line to their box. We'd get more goals from the trio behind him and someone like Bony would get into the box too. Like a Joselu? Who can't get into the squad? You're joking aren't you? He's weak as piss at holding the ball up.
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Post by fca47 on Aug 20, 2016 18:12:29 GMT
Very poor today, control let him down, time after time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 18:19:28 GMT
Like a Joselu? Who can't get into the squad? You're joking aren't you? He's weak as piss at holding the ball up. Can't remember in fairness. It's been about 6 months since he played for us.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 20, 2016 18:21:02 GMT
You're joking aren't you? He's weak as piss at holding the ball up. Can't remember in fairness. It's been about 6 months since he played for us. Well I'll jog your memory. He's not a bad finisher but he's not going to hold a centre back off and lay it into the path of the player we want on the ball higher up the pitch. That's why Hughes has all but given up on him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 18:22:12 GMT
That's why Hughes has all but given up on him. Really? After 22 appearances?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 20, 2016 18:23:12 GMT
That's why Hughes has all but given up on him. Really? After 22 appearances? Looks that way doesn't it? Can't even get in the squad ahead of Crouch (no offence to the big man).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 18:29:10 GMT
Really? After 22 appearances? Looks that way doesn't it? Can't even get in the squad ahead of Crouch (no offence to the big man). It does look like that but the subsequent discussion that this leads to is one that I wouldn't feel comfortable in having, especially as we seem to be on the cusp (look out...) of spending big on a centre half and a striker.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 20, 2016 18:30:37 GMT
I popped him up front in FIFA 15 in a 3-4-1-2 and he's been top scorer for 2 seasons. So it'll definitely work.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 20, 2016 18:32:04 GMT
Off day today but that's Arni. Still a real talent.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 20, 2016 18:32:07 GMT
Looks that way doesn't it? Can't even get in the squad ahead of Crouch (no offence to the big man). It does look like that but the subsequent discussion that this leads to is one that I wouldn't feel comfortable in having, especially as we seem to be on the cusp (look out...) of spending big on a centre half and a striker. Just made the point on another thread. The Berahino chase is a weird one as I don't think he'd fit in either.
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Post by senojbor on Aug 20, 2016 18:59:58 GMT
How many 'off' days is this lad allowed. He was a passenger today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 19:01:48 GMT
I'm no armchair manager or tactician by any means but this would be wild ! Arnie
Bojan
Sobhi Allen Imbula Shaqiri
Erik Ryan Wooly JohnsonIt certainly would. We would get ripped to shreds
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Post by alster on Aug 20, 2016 19:05:17 GMT
The problem is the lack of supply. The A to B. B could be Aguero and he'd get nothing. Our issue is the supply to the forward, it always is. That's half right but we haven't got the right sort of forward on our books. We need a striker who can play with his back to goal. Be nice to have a striker who can play. It would make a change whichever way he was facing.
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