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Post by rawli on Aug 22, 2016 10:30:33 GMT
Where do you twats go when he's playing well? They get on the Wolly bus
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 22, 2016 11:45:35 GMT
Diouf isn't a bad player but he needs the ball in front of him and that isn't how we play. Nail on head,a striker is always more effective driving forward with pace with defenders backtracking not static waiting trying to keep onside. He's not done much so far this year (or last after everything that happened to him) but he isn't a bad player at all. I don't think he's what we want but he still got into double figures the season before so he can't be that bad surely?
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Post by skelman on Aug 22, 2016 13:07:58 GMT
Diouf isn't a bad player but he needs the ball in front of him and that isn't how we play. I've been a fan of his and you are bang on because we've never played to his strengths, but today he was beyond useless. The Ped Report on VMC described Diouf as looking 'oversize & lazy'! Mmmmmmm .....
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Post by tonedepear on Aug 22, 2016 13:13:55 GMT
Upgrade. Jerome. Cameron. On. Put in correct order! *an. barely. (TBF I quite liked Jerome)
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Post by Old School Stokie on Aug 22, 2016 13:52:49 GMT
Looks like we got some real dead wood with Diof, Wollscheid even Shawcross with his back aint the real thing
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Post by tuum on Aug 22, 2016 15:07:39 GMT
I saw him a couple of times on the shoulder of the last defender waiting to time his run for the through ball from our illustrious attacking midfielders and winger. It never came. The ball was recycled square and/or back to Whelan. Diouf was stop-start, stop-start trying to stay onside waiting for the pass. I think we need to have a good hard look at Shaq-Arnie-Bojan and Imbula because together,in my opinion, they are not doing enough to create the opportunities.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2016 15:10:01 GMT
Where do you twats go when he's playing well? Let me know when he plays well and I'll tell you
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 15:13:22 GMT
I thought he did really well and was pretty much our only outlet all game. They pressed high and we could clear it either to him or over the top for him. Made two or three really incisive runs between stones and otamendi and kept running the channels to exploit their daft inside fullbacks tactic. Selective memories eh.
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Post by skemstokie on Aug 22, 2016 15:16:04 GMT
I saw him a couple of times on the shoulder of the last defender waiting to time his run for the through ball from our illustrious attacking midfielders and winger. It never came. The ball was recycled square and/or back to Whelan. Diouf was stop-start, stop-start trying to stay onside waiting for the pass. I think we need to have a good hard look at Shaq-Arnie-Bojan and Imbula because together,in my opinion, they are not doing enough to create the opportunities. We simply are not giving him the ball early enough the goal at Preston showed what he can do if given the right ball early in the right area with the defence retreating not wait for defence to get in position.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Aug 22, 2016 22:21:22 GMT
How Mark Hughes can keep picking diouf ahead of Crouch or Walters i dont know. He is useless the amount of chances he misses is unbelievable. If he is our best striker option then god help us. We need to address the striker situation sooner rather than later
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 22, 2016 22:31:01 GMT
Maybe Hughes has been feedin' him ribs, steak and burgers to get a cheaper version of Bony?
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 22, 2016 22:45:08 GMT
4-4-2 he is ok with a good target man
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 22, 2016 23:05:16 GMT
Diouf up front on his own against TWO Manchester City defenders with Imbula having a mare just behind him......
Yeah, he's fuckin shit alright....fuck him off Hughes...sheesh!!! 😒
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 22, 2016 23:22:19 GMT
Diouf up front on his own against TWO Manchester City defenders with Imbula having a mare just behind him...... Yeah, he's fuckin shit alright....fuck him off Hughes...sheesh!!! 😒 Calm down Mame. (sarcasm)
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Post by Royal Donut on Aug 23, 2016 2:40:03 GMT
Problem is he's really inconsistent, though he could score 15 goal plus, he scores twice in a game a few times, over 38games that's a lot of games not scoring, so it's hero or zero.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 23, 2016 12:42:46 GMT
Should've done better with the header but otherwise didn't do to much, wasn't given the ball and struggled to get space up there. He tried and he ran but we're still not creating enough and when he misses the chances he will get stick - if we give him more chances he will score more.
The time we went over the top he won the corner that led to the goal.
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Post by potterspele on Aug 23, 2016 12:50:20 GMT
Some really harsh criticism here.
He's hung out to dry playing a lone role that doesn't suit him in front of greedy players.
No one likes to criticise Arnie, Bojan and too a lesser extend shaqiri (as I think he's wasted on the wing) but more often than not its their greed and reluctance to pass to him when he gets in great positions.
You can't score goals in this team without the supporting cast and so far this season they have just been sloppy in the final third. He should finish his chances better admittedly but if he's lucky he gets one per game so the finger should be pointed at the tactics/supply.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 13:43:19 GMT
If we aren't going to play his game, which it increasingly looks like we aren't, then he's going to struggle all season.
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Post by stokey127 on Aug 23, 2016 13:50:26 GMT
Please Sparky fuck him off. I give him the benefit of the doubt towards the end of last season regarding his family issues, months later he's still wank. Is he seriously our biggest goal threat? He can't shoot, head, pass, he never gets out of a jogging pace. So fucking infuriating to watch. An owner with 2 billion squid in his bank and we are subjected to a player that would struggle in the championship. Sort it out ffs. True he is well crap next time I line up for an autograph with Mark I am going to ask him what the hell he sees in him !!!!!! please play Peter until we buy!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 12:21:40 GMT
Absolute tripe yet again by the boo brigade, we could have Messi up top and be no different. Strikers need service he got none, don't matter if it's Diouf, Berahino, Crouch or Messi. Absolutely right, we have some real morons on here, who can't wait to put all the blame on Diouf at every opportunity. Mame does not deserve all the garbage and tripe that he has to put up with. ok I never slag a stoke player off and would never boo a stoke player but heres the facts diouff cant shoot cant run with the ball cant pass cant head cant hold ball up doesn't make himself available when we got the ball .doesn't stretch the opposing defenders by moving into space Doesn't chase to regain possession when opposition have the ball . if we got a penalty and the opposing team removed their goalkeeper and placed a tin of beans on the goal line he would hit the tin of fuckn beans he is woeful weve played first two games with 10 men Get him outta here starting tomorrow at Everton
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 12:24:22 GMT
Absolutely right, we have some real morons on here, who can't wait to put all the blame on Diouf at every opportunity. Mame does not deserve all the garbage and tripe that he has to put up with. ok I never slag a stoke player off and would never boo a stoke player but heres the facts diouff cant shoot cant run with the ball cant pass cant head cant hold ball up doesn't make himself available when we got the ball .doesn't stretch the opposing defenders by moving into space Doesn't chase to regain possession when opposition have the ball . if we got a penalty and the opposing team removed their goalkeeper and placed a tin of beans on the goal line he would hit the tin of fuckn beans he is woeful weve played first two games with 10 men Get him outta here starting tomorrow at Everton You have just massively slagged a Stoke player off, so thats not true is it.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 26, 2016 12:30:13 GMT
4-4-2 he is ok with a good target man Agreed
Unfortunately Phil Jagielka and Ashley Williams are not the right people to try it out on
But I reckon there are a few centre backs, who wouldn't fancy 90 minutes of balls being whipped high into the penalty box, with Crouchy and Diouf trying to get on the end of them.
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Post by leicspotter on Aug 26, 2016 12:31:49 GMT
Sorry but talking about service isn't cutting it anymore. That excuse has been used far too many times for his poor performances. The guy is technically poor. He struggles to control a ball the majority of the time, he can't pass and his composure in front of goal leaves a lot to be desired. On top of that, he just doesn't have a footballing brain, against M'Boro he was always in the wrong place, he can't predict the play like those with a natural footballing brain can. It showed against Man City as well. He will score goals with good service, because he has the physical attributes, strength and power. You just might have to put about 20 on a plate before he nets one. I have defended Diouf and banged the 'no service' drum for long enough. We can't keep using that as an excuse for his overall general poor play, as a Striker at this level you have to be good technically as well as have the physical attributes. I also think you need to offer more to the team at this level than to just bang them in when they're on a plate for you. We need a replacement without fail before the window closes and until then we should start with Walters up top. Whatever your opinion on Diouf to say he hasn't got a footballing brain is just wrong, he makes extremely intelligent runs but doesn't get the ball in the channels and over the top 90% of the time...... You think? My main criticism of Mame is that he DOESN'T make good runs, so the midfield have no-one to pass to. He is static and "on his heels" far too much and doesn't harass defenders or keepers...he may be playing to orders, but it's very hard to defend him at the moment
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Post by st3mark on Aug 26, 2016 12:35:56 GMT
Whatever your opinion on Diouf to say he hasn't got a footballing brain is just wrong, he makes extremely intelligent runs but doesn't get the ball in the channels and over the top 90% of the time...... You think? My main criticism of Mame is that he DOESN'T make good runs, so the midfield have no-one to pass to. He is static and "on his heels" far too much and doesn't harass defenders or keepers...he may be playing to orders, but it's very hard to defend him at the moment How strange. I find that he does harass defenders and has a decent work rate. I feel it's his lack of quality in the box and with the ball at his feet that's the problem.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 26, 2016 12:36:05 GMT
He's ace in the air and rapid running onto balls over the top.
If Sparky doesn't want to play that way ... why did he sign him ???
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 12:40:51 GMT
How Mark Hughes can keep picking diouf ahead of Crouch or Walters i dont know. He is useless the amount of chances he misses is unbelievable. If he is our best striker option then god help us. We need to address the striker situation sooner rather than later He can't be our best option. We'll get a striker in next week so someone has to leave and for me it has to be Diouf, not Joselu. Joselu is a much better option than Diouf for me.
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Post by PB1863 on Aug 26, 2016 12:50:26 GMT
The horse has well and truly bolted but Benteke would have done a great job up top. I do hope we sign somebody similar that can harass the defenders. Crouchie maybe getting on but he causes panic in the defensive line. I'd be happy with Berahino but I'm not convinced his style is right for us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 12:51:55 GMT
Absolutely right, we have some real morons on here, who can't wait to put all the blame on Diouf at every opportunity. Mame does not deserve all the garbage and tripe that he has to put up with. ok I never slag a stoke player off and would never boo a stoke player but heres the facts diouff cant shoot cant run with the ball cant pass cant head cant hold ball up doesn't make himself available when we got the ball .doesn't stretch the opposing defenders by moving into space Doesn't chase to regain possession when opposition have the ball . if we got a penalty and the opposing team removed their goalkeeper and placed a tin of beans on the goal line he would hit the tin of fuckn beans he is woeful weve played first two games with 10 men Get him outta here starting tomorrow at Everton By scfc2112, age 8 and a half.
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