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Post by Mama Zeus Sidibe on May 9, 2008 14:55:55 GMT
I love mama! Don't dare sell him!
Sidibe! Mama Sidibee, mama mama mama mama ma, mama Sidibe!
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hoopty
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Post by hoopty on May 9, 2008 15:02:43 GMT
"I think I'd only be annoyed if we lost Lawrence, Fuller or Shawcross, and I'm not even sure any of them will be good enough?"
My thoughts exactly - though I am definitely warming to Whelan. Of those three I am only really confident of Shawcross being up to it.
As there are many Stoke fans who doubt whether Mama is even Championship class, the thought of turning down money for him, because he "might" do a job in the Prem is kinda laughable.
That Mama has never justified a significant transfer fee in his career tells you somehting. If Cardiff offer us a fee with more than two digits in it we should snap their hands off.
Thank you and goodbye.
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Post by slangking on May 9, 2008 15:14:55 GMT
People must think that Cardiff just pluck these transfer targets out of the air, he's obviously being hawked around and will leave, next!
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Post by Godo on May 9, 2008 15:44:36 GMT
Ashton would obviously be a better option but his injury record and the fact that he would cost most of our £15m surely counts against the suggestion.
We can all think of better options but do any of them fall in the £2-£5M bracket.
In my view more critical than replacing Mama is bringing in a proven poacher, a top class keeper, a left winger, a midfield destroyer and we might also be suspect at fullback.
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Post by mikeyb99 on May 9, 2008 15:48:45 GMT
I presumed the comparison with Ashton was only academic ... some of you are talking seriously about Ashton being a realistic target. He's so far out of our league its unreal. No chance. That's why we should be grateful with Mama IMO.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 9, 2008 15:55:20 GMT
he has a decent first-touch (far superior to Fuller) Noooooooo way mate! No way! I'm not Mama's greatest fan... I thought Ameobi would do Mama's job and more... But I wouldn't piss on Cardiff if they were on fire! £800,000 to anyone else, but £8,000,000 to Cardiff!
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Post by ParaPsych on May 9, 2008 16:02:10 GMT
Not only do we have people saying Sidibe is better than Dean Ashton, we now have people saying Fuller has been the weak link.
Yes, football is all about opinions, but some of you are fucking *****.
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Post by Admin on May 9, 2008 16:23:14 GMT
I would hazard a guess that Fuller's goals per shots ratio is as bad as Mama's. I really think if we're being honest Fuller is the weak link... I just can't agree with that. There have been games which Ricardo had to do it all almost on his own. If you think back to the Scunthorpe game, it was his selfless approach play that earned us the win. Regardless of what we think of Mamma, there is no way I could ever agree that Fuller has been a weak link. He has been an inspiration if anything.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 9, 2008 16:35:41 GMT
Describing one of the best players we've had at the club in the last 25 years as a "weak link" does seem somewhat harsh!
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Post by Big Al on May 9, 2008 16:41:06 GMT
bye mama thanks for everything
if we get anything for a striker that can amass a total of 4 goals all season is a shear miracle snap their hand off TP
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Post by lurcherman on May 9, 2008 16:48:42 GMT
I don't think TP will sell anyone yet until he's sure of the calibre of player he can actually attract to the club. Yes we are a premiership club, but one who is touted as making a swift return. Plus he will want players who actually want to play for Stoke (something which he has got at the moment ) and not just turn up for the wage packet, . The best way of building a stronger squad is to try and buy better players than the best you have got, then release the weakest members of your squad ie, Parkin, Pericard etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2008 16:55:05 GMT
Of all our strikers Fuller is the only one that may be good enough for the Prem, and even he is unproven at that level. The rest including Mama are just not good enough, yes he has been a fantastic servant and was integral to the way we played this year but lets be honest he was punching above his weight this year. The gap betwwen the Prem and Championship is absolutely massive and we will need every goal we can get.We simply cannot afford to carry a striker who scored four goals this season. If Cardiff offer anything over 250K then Mama should be sold.
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Post by LDE76 on May 9, 2008 17:01:25 GMT
As we'd be dealing with Peter Ridsdale, I'd expect him to offer at least £2 million, having taken out an unsecured loan with Ian Beale.
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Post by scfclifer on May 9, 2008 17:29:26 GMT
Of all our strikers Fuller is the only one that may be good enough for the Prem, and even he is unproven at that level. The rest including Mama are just not good enough, yes he has been a fantastic servant and was integral to the way we played this year but lets be honest he was punching above his weight this year. The gap betwwen the Prem and Championship is absolutely massive and we will need every goal we can get.We simply cannot afford to carry a striker who scored four goals this season. If Cardiff offer anything over 250K then Mama should be sold. mama would cause problems for prem teams and 250k is a joke mate and as for fuller not being proven in the prem and the fact he could be good enough ARE you for real ...........30 odd games fuller played for portsmouth and he got exactly NO GOALS i think that tells you he won't cut it mate get your facts right before chatting shit
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Post by headsgoup on May 9, 2008 18:09:06 GMT
Cardiff are skint so they can't afford him anyway.
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Post by nicknacknoo on May 9, 2008 18:19:33 GMT
we should sell mama i reckon,yes,he plays his heart out ,but his job will be defunct in the prem cos we will be playing total,carpet football with two wingers with blistering pace turning fuckers inside out to deliver beautifully cute crosses onto the heads of the awaiting throng! we will be playing through the middle more,that will be liams new role,threading perfectly weighted passes to ricci who will never miss...................its going to be a joy to behold!!thanks for bizzle mama and good luck with your future club.
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Post by scfctilidie on May 9, 2008 18:23:30 GMT
Mamas been a great servant to this club he gives 100% all the time and makes riccy the player he is imo without all the flick ons for him fuller wouldnt score as many despite his talent would be sad to see him go, especially to those sheepshaggers i think pulis will hang onto him though as a squad player or super sub
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Post by steinovschmeichel on May 9, 2008 18:29:14 GMT
mama is the next drogba. should get him to practise nothing but scoring goals from now til next season.
reckon fuller will give some defences problems next season too. someone said he didn't score in his last 16 games but he was being hacked down by oppositions that knew what he could do if they let him past. reckon he will get more time to run at defenders in the prem.
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Post by stokeoptimist on May 9, 2008 18:58:04 GMT
How the hell can you know how Mama will perform next year give the guy a chance. He has been pivotal to our success this year. I think he is a far better player than most people give hime credit for, plus he won't be getting kicked up in the air as much next year either. If anybody has any doubts about his finishing how about that second goal against Bristol.
He deserves a place in the squad next year end of!
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Post by gilberto on May 9, 2008 19:14:39 GMT
i think we need to bring in someone of higher quality but you get 7 subs in the prem next season, so maybe he's worth keeping to, like some people have said, ruffle some feathers towards the end of games and hold the ball up.
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Post by steinovschmeichel on May 9, 2008 19:21:11 GMT
Hands off Mama. He’s growing an afro especially for the prem. love it hahahahahah put your hand up if think fuller should grow one too
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2008 20:37:20 GMT
Of all our strikers Fuller is the only one that may be good enough for the Prem, and even he is unproven at that level. The rest including Mama are just not good enough, yes he has been a fantastic servant and was integral to the way we played this year but lets be honest he was punching above his weight this year. The gap betwwen the Prem and Championship is absolutely massive and we will need every goal we can get.We simply cannot afford to carry a striker who scored four goals this season. If Cardiff offer anything over 250K then Mama should be sold. mama would cause problems for prem teams and 250k is a joke mate and as for fuller not being proven in the prem and the fact he could be good enough ARE you for real ...........30 odd games fuller played for portsmouth and he got exactly NO GOALS i think that tells you he won't cut it mate get your facts right before chatting shit If you look at the language sunshine I used the words MAY and UNPROVEN, I did not say he was good enough. As for Mama a Championship forward who has scored the sum total of four goals I would have thought 250K would have been about right, so tell me Mr.Statto which of those facts is wrong?
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Post by mermaidsal on May 9, 2008 20:46:09 GMT
Mama's going to come into his own in the Prem, I seriously believe that. Well I believe there's a good chance anyhow... and if I was TP I'd be looking for a second Ricci to play off him, not thinking about shipping him out to some bunch of losers for no money.
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Post by Funky on May 9, 2008 20:55:28 GMT
We are doomed in the Premier League if we are setting our sights so low on players like Mama.
Below are the 15 top scorers in the Premier this season, can you honestly see Mama breaking into the top 100 nevermind 15.
Ronaldo Man Utd 30 Adebayor Arsenal 24 Torres Liverpool 23 Santa Cruz Blackburn 19 Berbatov Tottenham 15 Keane Tottenham 15 Benjani Man City 15 Tevez Man Utd 14 Carew Aston Villa 13 Yakubu Everton 13 Defoe Portsmouth 12 Rooney Man Utd 12 Agbonlahor Aston Villa 11 Anelka Chelsea 11 Gerrard Liverpool 11
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Post by crashbandicoot on May 9, 2008 21:11:03 GMT
Dont think ive ever seen many players split opinion as much as Mama does
At times I love him think hes a great player, at other times i wonder what the fuck is he doing hes not good enough for the vale side!
Fact is TP obviously rates him and i personally think he at least deserves a shot in the prem before we offload him
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Post by Olgrligm on May 9, 2008 21:19:27 GMT
Mama polarises people more than TP.
For what it's worth, I reckon he's key to us, but that's at this level. His partnership with Fuller has been key to our success. However - we don't know if Fuller will cut it in the Premiership, so can Mama really do it? We need a player who can do all of his link up play etc, but who can also score goals. We saw with Ameobi that no Mama = crap performances, but we need goals coming from everywhere if we're going to stay up.
He should probably get a chance or two, but I reckon next year we should be aiming for him being a squad player.
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Post by apb1 on May 9, 2008 22:59:31 GMT
Most of the anti-mama experts on this thread banged on all season about how he wasn't even fit to play in the Championship and we were mugs to persist with a non-scoring forward. Ever thought you might have the capacity to get things wrong? My take - I don't know how he will play in the Premier League, or if he will be hopelessly out of his depth. Try saying that - 'I don't know'. Surely he deserves a chance after the contribution to coming second in the league? I'm not against being ruthless, just mindful that he was (wrongly) written off before. Perhaps Coates should be ruthless and get rid of that inept manager before he stuffs up in the PL?
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Post by lordb on May 10, 2008 8:35:59 GMT
£250k for Mama would be pathetic.
we paid that much for Parkin
I reckon there would be a queue of CCC clubs in for him
@ least a million for one of the divisions most effective attacking midfielders,
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Post by Stick It On Cort's Head on May 10, 2008 9:56:24 GMT
None of our strikers are good enough for the premiership.
2 strikers are needed to stay up.
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Post by together we are stoke on May 10, 2008 10:20:34 GMT
MAMA will be the next kenwyne jones, premiership defenders do not like 'awkard strikers' mourhino was quoted saying he hated when rafa played crouch against him, as they put him on carvhalio and causes havoc
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