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Post by pottersrule on Jul 29, 2016 16:56:36 GMT
Rumours are he is set to be made available by Manure,at the right price might be worth looking at.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2016 16:58:58 GMT
He's not better than the senior pros we have and the strikers in our youth sides are the ones who should stand a good chance of breaking through and we have about 4 of them in bracket.
Yes Wilson is probably better than them but I'd rather see Telford, N'Goy, Waring and Abdallah given the chance should it arise.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 18:33:28 GMT
He's available on loan not to buy.
He will end up at WBA
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 19:19:53 GMT
Just because he's local doesn't mean we should sign him, wasn't that impressive at Derby, if we're gonna have someone just to come off the bench then I'd rather have Ngoy or Waring
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Post by prettything on Jul 29, 2016 19:23:56 GMT
Agree with Bayern for once.
We're not the kind of club who could give Wilson a chance at present.
Maybe three years ago. I don't see a player at the point in his career would get an opportunity to better himself , here.
We simply have too many better players than him, at present.
Maybe a club like Hull could give him a chance?
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jul 29, 2016 19:37:39 GMT
He's not better than the senior pros we have and the strikers in our youth sides are the ones who should stand a good chance of breaking through and we have about 4 of them in bracket. Yes Wilson is probably better than them but I'd rather see Telford, N'Goy, Waring and Abdallah given the chance should it arise. Why would you rather see players who arent as good given the chance before Wilson?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 19:50:12 GMT
Nowhere near good enough for us.
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Post by liam007 on Jul 29, 2016 19:53:08 GMT
He may be a local lad but the truth is he is more Port Vale level than Stoke City level.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 29, 2016 20:08:04 GMT
He may be a local lad but the truth is he is more Port Vale level than Stoke City level. Don't think so,he played well in the championship play offs,for Brighton last season.He is a good championship player now,and is still very young.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 29, 2016 20:30:48 GMT
He may be a local lad but the truth is he is more Port Vale level than Stoke City level. Don't think so,he played well in the championship play offs,for Brighton last season.He is a good championship player now,and is still very young. I thought he'd do better than he did. Still a fair way to go for me to be a premier league regular.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 29, 2016 20:45:11 GMT
Never a premier league player , ok for the championship
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Post by Royal Donut on Jul 29, 2016 21:04:55 GMT
No thanks
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Post by liam007 on Jul 29, 2016 21:17:57 GMT
He may be a local lad but the truth is he is more Port Vale level than Stoke City level. Don't think so,he played well in the championship play offs,for Brighton last season.He is a good championship player now,and is still very young. Remind me how did Brighton do in the play-offs.Final,runners up ? Did he score a decisive goal or did he score a goal.I admit i am being unfair on the lad and have no ill feeling towards him.But i do not see the fuss over him just because he scored for Manchester United.Wish him well in his career but i stand by prediction,he is more Port Vale than Stoke City.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jul 29, 2016 21:22:35 GMT
Don't think so,he played well in the championship play offs,for Brighton last season.He is a good championship player now,and is still very young. Remind me how did Brighton do in the play-offs.Final,runners up ? Did he score a decisive goal or did he score a goal.I admit i am being unfair on the lad and have no ill feeling towards him.But i do not see the fuss over him just because he scored for Manchester United.Wish him well in his career but i stand by prediction,he is more Port Vale than Stoke City. What has who he supports got to do with it? The issue is whether he his good enough for the prem surely?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 21:24:14 GMT
He's not better than the senior pros we have and the strikers in our youth sides are the ones who should stand a good chance of breaking through and we have about 4 of them in bracket. Yes Wilson is probably better than them but I'd rather see Telford, N'Goy, Waring and Abdallah given the chance should it arise. Why would you rather see players who arent as good given the chance before Wilson? He'd rather see ours given a chance before someone else's.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 29, 2016 21:24:59 GMT
Don't think so,he played well in the championship play offs,for Brighton last season.He is a good championship player now,and is still very young. Remind me how did Brighton do in the play-offs.Final,runners up ? Did he score a decisive goal or did he score a goal.I admit i am being unfair on the lad and have no ill feeling towards him.But i do not see the fuss over him just because he scored for Manchester United.Wish him well in his career but i stand by prediction,he is more Port Vale than Stoke City. Is he any better than Ryan Shotton ? both played for PL clubs both local are either really good enough at this level ?
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Post by liam007 on Jul 29, 2016 21:26:33 GMT
Remind me how did Brighton do in the play-offs.Final,runners up ? Did he score a decisive goal or did he score a goal.I admit i am being unfair on the lad and have no ill feeling towards him.But i do not see the fuss over him just because he scored for Manchester United.Wish him well in his career but i stand by prediction,he is more Port Vale than Stoke City. What has who he supports got to do with it? The issue is whether he his good enough for the prem surely? Nah,you've lost me mate.I didn't quote who he supports.I believe he is closer to Port Vale's level of football than Stoke City's level of football.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jul 29, 2016 21:27:15 GMT
Why would you rather see players who arent as good given the chance before Wilson? He'd rather see ours given a chance before someone else's. Its what is best for the club that counts surely? Not who they play for at the team? The best should play. Not saying Wilson is better but Bayern does.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jul 29, 2016 21:30:02 GMT
What has who he supports got to do with it? The issue is whether he his good enough for the prem surely? Nah,you've lost me mate.I didn't quote who he supports.I believe he is closer to Port Vale's level of football than Stoke City's level of football. Ridiculous hes played at Prem for the shit. Not saying hes good enough but def nearer prem than that Vale level.
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Post by liam007 on Jul 29, 2016 21:30:17 GMT
Remind me how did Brighton do in the play-offs.Final,runners up ? Did he score a decisive goal or did he score a goal.I admit i am being unfair on the lad and have no ill feeling towards him.But i do not see the fuss over him just because he scored for Manchester United.Wish him well in his career but i stand by prediction,he is more Port Vale than Stoke City. Is he any better than Ryan Shotton ? both played for PL clubs both local are either really good enough at this level ? Who said he was or wasn't? Don't understand the comparasion.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jul 29, 2016 21:31:44 GMT
Is he any better than Ryan Shotton ? both played for PL clubs both local are either really good enough at this level ? Who said he was or wasn't? Don't understand the comparasion. Just an opportunity to have a go at Shotton
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Post by liam007 on Jul 29, 2016 21:32:53 GMT
Nah,you've lost me mate.I didn't quote who he supports.I believe he is closer to Port Vale's level of football than Stoke City's level of football. Ridiculous hes played at Prem for the shit. Not saying hes good enough but def nearer prem than that Vale level. Agree to disagree mate.I respect everyone's opinion even when they are wrong,,(Wink,Wink)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 21:38:05 GMT
He'd rather see ours given a chance before someone else's. Its what is best for the club that counts surely? Not who they play for at the team? The best should play. Not saying Wilson is better but Bayern does. Depends really, on the gap in quality and the role in the side. If he's only marginally better than our youth, and isn't a key role that needs addressing (he won't be our big name striker) then it just seem less of an attractive proposition. That's just my view though.
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Post by takeshikovacs on Jul 29, 2016 22:00:03 GMT
Don't know much about him, but I think we should be aiming higher.
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Post by innocentbystander on Jul 29, 2016 22:08:03 GMT
Same scenario that brought Ryan Shawcross to Stoke
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Post by takeshikovacs on Jul 29, 2016 22:10:32 GMT
Same scenario that brought Ryan Shawcross to Stoke Maybe, but back then, the overall quality of our squad was light years away from where it is now, which is why I think the goalposts have moved a bit.
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Post by luke45 on Jul 29, 2016 22:12:11 GMT
He had a big opportunity to prove himself at Brighton on loan last season and he only managed 5 goals in 25 appearances. Given that he's 21 at the end of this year you feel that if he's only averaging 1 in 5 at championship level at this stage in his career he's probably not going to reach the heights people thought he might. Agree with Bayern, Dominic Telford and Julien N'Goy are two we should be focusing our attention on. On the evidence of that second half at Preston, N'Goy looks ready to compete for a place in the first team squad in my opinion.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jul 29, 2016 22:13:20 GMT
Its what is best for the club that counts surely? Not who they play for at the team? The best should play. Not saying Wilson is better but Bayern does. Depends really, on the gap in quality and the role in the side. If he's only marginally better than our youth, and isn't a key role that needs addressing (he won't be our big name striker) then it just seem less of an attractive proposition. That's just my view though. If hes better, big if. then thats who we should go for surely?
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 29, 2016 22:14:44 GMT
one of them you never know could be good could be Nick Powell !!!
Im sure Sparkle will have an eye on him if he thinks he can make it
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Post by innocentbystander on Jul 29, 2016 22:19:52 GMT
Same scenario that brought Ryan Shawcross to Stoke Maybe, but back then, the overall quality of our squad was light years away from where it is now, which is why I think the goalposts have moved a bit. Agreed - we're too good for that sort of deal now. He'll go to someone at the same stage we were then, like Hull or Brighton.
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