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Post by slicko on Jul 28, 2016 20:59:02 GMT
In recent friendlies we saw a draw and loss where the result was deemed inconsequential as it was a fitness test for the squad.
Issue: Preston and Burton were building their fitness too
In the narrow win against Orlando last night all talk of fitness is out the window and the result is everything.
Issue: this is a little hypocritical and Orlando are fairly toss.
I'm tired and hungry so I'm putting this out there for debate.
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Post by block30row19 on Jul 28, 2016 21:15:19 GMT
Who said the result is everything !
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2016 21:16:00 GMT
Who's said that?
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Post by slicko on Jul 28, 2016 21:25:26 GMT
I said it, who hell he.
Does that clarify it.
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Post by slother on Jul 28, 2016 21:27:15 GMT
What's going on? What did you say about my mother?
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Post by swampySCFC on Jul 28, 2016 21:28:22 GMT
Im still pissed off about the hard baked ground that fucked Greenacre up at Lyme Valley. Totally fucked us up
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Post by kustokie on Jul 28, 2016 21:30:13 GMT
It was a relief not to lose to a poor team and we did get on the front foot from time to time.
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Post by slicko on Jul 28, 2016 21:31:59 GMT
Sentinel headline: Orlando City 1, Stoke City 2 – MATCH DAY RE-CAP: Goals from Mame Diouf and Bojan seal win
First para: STOKE City have beaten sister club Orlando City 2-1 in Mark Hughes's third friendly of pre-season.
Should have read: STOKE City have raised their fitness levels against sister club Orlando City in Mark Hughes's third friendly of pre-season.
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 28, 2016 21:32:26 GMT
Bore off
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 28, 2016 21:32:59 GMT
Which idiot think a result in a friendly is anything to talk about. It's all fitness that's all. It's not even tactics based as the amount of players used in friendlies the manager can not build up any kind of analysis on what's going on. It's basically running with a purpose.
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Post by slicko on Jul 28, 2016 21:34:28 GMT
Yeah, I'm going to bore off mate. Just do me a favour, work on getting involved in debate sometime before you hit puberty. |
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Post by kustokie on Jul 28, 2016 21:39:16 GMT
Which idiot think a result in a friendly is anything to talk about. It's all fitness that's all. It's not even tactics based as the amount of players used in friendlies the manager can not build up any kind of analysis on what's going on. It's basically running with a purpose. Erm...an idiot like me. Playing three at the back exposed two serious weaknesses (or more accurately confirmed what we already knew). A) if we try that formation against a half-way decent team, we'll get clobbered. B) Wollscheidt is even worse when playing with three at the back than he is with four and needs to be replaced. |
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 28, 2016 21:40:31 GMT
Yeah, I'm going to bore off mate. Just do me a favour, work on getting involved in debate sometime before you hit puberty. YAWN |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 28, 2016 21:43:25 GMT
Sentinel headline: Orlando City 1, Stoke City 2 – MATCH DAY RE-CAP: Goals from Mame Diouf and Bojan seal win First para: STOKE City have beaten sister club Orlando City 2-1 in Mark Hughes's third friendly of pre-season. Should have read: STOKE City have raised their fitness levels against sister club Orlando City in Mark Hughes's third friendly of pre-season. So did the report on the Burton game make no mention of the fact Stoke lost the game? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2016 21:46:20 GMT
This is weird.
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Post by slicko on Jul 28, 2016 21:46:39 GMT
Yeah, I'm going to bore off mate. Just do me a favour, work on getting involved in debate sometime before you hit puberty. YAWN Haha, you've no school in the morning. It's late but have a lie in. |
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Post by slicko on Jul 28, 2016 21:52:14 GMT
Sentinel headline: Orlando City 1, Stoke City 2 – MATCH DAY RE-CAP: Goals from Mame Diouf and Bojan seal win First para: STOKE City have beaten sister club Orlando City 2-1 in Mark Hughes's third friendly of pre-season. Should have read: STOKE City have raised their fitness levels against sister club Orlando City in Mark Hughes's third friendly of pre-season. So did the report on the Burton game make no mention of the fact Stoke lost the game? First paragraph on club website:MARK HUGHES declared himself satisfied with the work-out his Stoke City side were given by Burton Albion in their opening pre-season game at the Pirelli Stadium. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 28, 2016 21:55:32 GMT
So did the report on the Burton game make no mention of the fact Stoke lost the game? First paragraph on club website:MARK HUGHES declared himself satisfied with the work-out his Stoke City side were given by Burton Albion in their opening pre-season game at the Pirelli Stadium. The Sentinel's one does talk about a '3-0 beating' though. You've got to compare like for like surely? Of course the club's website is going to be propaganda. |
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 28, 2016 21:56:15 GMT
Saved to favourites.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jul 28, 2016 22:00:20 GMT
Pre season means fuck all. Its what we do in the League. Probably the most challenging season I suspect this year. Bring it on
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Post by skip on Jul 28, 2016 22:02:37 GMT
Which idiot think a result in a friendly is anything to talk about. It's all fitness that's all. It's not even tactics based as the amount of players used in friendlies the manager can not build up any kind of analysis on what's going on. It's basically running with a purpose. Erm...an idiot like me. Playing three at the back exposed two serious weaknesses (or more accurately confirmed what we already knew). A) if we try that formation against a half-way decent team, we'll get clobbered. B) Wollscheidt is even worse when playing with three at the back than he is with four and needs to be replaced. Assuming Sparky knows what he's doing he was testing three at the back to test and refute its effectiveness. That's right, yeah? |
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Post by slicko on Jul 28, 2016 22:04:33 GMT
Yep I'm happy with my night's work
1 I'm a bore.
2 it's deemed acceptable to treat losses as fitness tests and wins as proof of readiness.
3 I'm working towards another star on my status.
4 most posters are still up for a keyboard scrap
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Post by skip on Jul 28, 2016 22:06:54 GMT
Yep I'm happy with my night's work 1 I'm a bore. 2 it's deemed acceptable to treat losses as fitness tests and wins as proof of readiness. 3 I'm working towards another star on my status. 4 most posters are still up for a keyboard scrap Re: 2 - surely that's called pre season optimism no? |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 28, 2016 22:07:46 GMT
Yep I'm happy with my night's work 1 I'm a bore. 2 it's deemed acceptable to treat losses as fitness tests and wins as proof of readiness. 3 I'm working towards another star on my status. 4 most posters are still up for a keyboard scrap Nobody has said 'it's acceptable to treat losses as fitness tests and wins as proof of readiness." |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2016 22:14:00 GMT
Yep I'm happy with my night's work 1 I'm a bore. 2 it's deemed acceptable to treat losses as fitness tests and wins as proof of readiness. 3 I'm working towards another star on my status. 4 most posters are still up for a keyboard scrap You're arguing with yourself as the rest of us stand around and wonder what the hell you're going on about! 😂 |
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Post by salopstick on Jul 28, 2016 22:25:29 GMT
Pre season friendly results mean nothing
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Post by slicko on Jul 28, 2016 22:26:58 GMT
Yep I'm happy with my night's work 1 I'm a bore. 2 it's deemed acceptable to treat losses as fitness tests and wins as proof of readiness. 3 I'm working towards another star on my status. 4 most posters are still up for a keyboard scrap You're arguing with yourself as the rest of us stand around and wonder what the hell you're going on about! 😂 Told you I was tired and hungry at the start. Just honing my abuse skills. I've been off here for a few months.  |
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Post by daveuppercut on Jul 28, 2016 23:50:02 GMT
Seriously, what's going on?
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Post by kustokie on Jul 29, 2016 1:26:13 GMT
You're arguing with yourself as the rest of us stand around and wonder what the hell you're going on about! 😂 Told you I was tired and hungry at the start. Just honing my abuse skills. I've been off here for a few months. You are definitely rusty, mate. Nobody has felt abused just a bit confused. Preseason results don't mean much. However, if you lose 3-0 to a poor team, trying a formation that didn't work is a cause for concern. Sparky's tried it twice in a row against much weaker opposition and been exposed both times. Definition of insanity is trying things over and over and hoping for a different result. Let's hope he's got the message. |
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Post by davethebass on Jul 29, 2016 1:26:44 GMT
quote author=" slicko" source="/post/5200174/thread" timestamp="1469743473"]Yep I'm happy with my night's work 1 I'm a bore. 2 it's deemed acceptable to treat losses as fitness tests and wins as proof of readiness. 3 I'm working towards another star on my status. 4 most posters are still up for a keyboard scrap[/quote] Re 3: They go to 11?! |
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