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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 8:57:52 GMT
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Post by riponstokie on Jul 23, 2016 8:57:52 GMT
In the light of our latest bid for Berahino being knocked back, I've seen many people claim playing Diouf as our number 9 would be more than suitable for the upcoming season. However, if we want to push forward as a club, in a way I think we are capable, a new number 9 -along with a number of other additions- is crucial. I love Diouf, he works hard, he's rapid, good in the air, however he isn't good enough to play as a main striker in the premier league. His running in behind does create space for the 3 behind, however, his touch and interplay is simply non existant. When I picture who I want as a striker, I picture someone with pace who can run in behind and drag the defensive line back, but also someone who drop in and can link up with our midfield players. I think Berahino has a good combination of technical ability, pace and goal scoring prowess to be a great player for us, so I for one hope we do get the deal done.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2016 9:00:27 GMT
He's clearly shown he is good enough.
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Post by Gods on Jul 23, 2016 9:02:13 GMT
I'd love to know where Joselu, Crouch and Walters now sit in the pecking order too.
We seem to have no lack of strikers but no one striker the management team really seem to believe in.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2016 9:03:55 GMT
I'd love to know where Joselu, Crouch and Walters now sit in the pecking order too. We seem to have no lack of strikers but no one striker the management team really seem to believe in. And considering the manager either signed them or offered them a new deal in the last 2 years it's a worry!!
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Post by captainmainwaring on Jul 23, 2016 9:04:32 GMT
He's clearly shown he is good enough. This is something we do agree on
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 9:07:07 GMT
Post by Gods on Jul 23, 2016 9:07:07 GMT
I'd love to know where Joselu, Crouch and Walters now sit in the pecking order too. We seem to have no lack of strikers but no one striker the management team really seem to believe in. And considering the manager either signed them or offered them a new deal in the last 2 years it's a worry!! Yes indeed, but it may not be the moment for an inquest, we are where we are and we need to sort things out and get some working strategy together preferably before the season begins!
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 9:08:20 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 23, 2016 9:08:20 GMT
I'd love to know where Joselu, Crouch and Walters now sit in the pecking order too. We seem to have no lack of strikers but no one striker the management team really seem to believe in. Crouch will leave and I can also see Walters departing as he's alluded to it on a few occasions
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 9:11:49 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2016 9:11:49 GMT
And considering the manager either signed them or offered them a new deal in the last 2 years it's a worry!! Yes indeed, but it may not be the moment for an inquest, we are where we are and we need to sort things out and get some working strategy together preferably before the season begins! That was Berahino.....
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 9:12:48 GMT
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jul 23, 2016 9:12:48 GMT
Needs a run through the middle.
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 9:21:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 9:21:13 GMT
The smiling assassin.
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Post by liamo on Jul 23, 2016 9:22:34 GMT
Not even sure why we're going after Berahino before ever really giving Diouf a fair go at it, even if people think Berahino is better than Diouf, is he £20m better? Not a chance
IMO our money would be best spent on cover so we don't have to change formation/tactics because of one bloody injury, we'd be better letting Crouch leave, bringing Telford to the bench and focusing on other areas, like defensive cover and a NO.2 keeper that's under 40
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 9:47:37 GMT
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Post by Onneravineet on Jul 23, 2016 9:47:37 GMT
I'd love to know where Joselu, Crouch and Walters now sit in the pecking order too. We seem to have no lack of strikers but no one striker the management team really seem to believe in. Crouch will leave and I can also see Walters departing as he's alluded to it on a few occasions Agreed mate, although I will not like seeing him leave it would be for the best IF we do sign a couple in his position(s). Walters has never been the type to sit on he bench and has the form to edge towards being a little caustic when he has been out of the team. I wouldn't want his time here to end with that kind of taste in the mouth.
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Post by werrington on Jul 23, 2016 9:50:34 GMT
Crouch will leave and I can also see Walters departing as he's alluded to it on a few occasions Agreed mate, although I will not like seeing him leave it would be for the best IF we do sign a couple in his position(s). Walters has never been the type to sit on he bench and has the form to edge towards being a little caustic when he has been out of the team. I wouldn't want his time here to end with that kind of taste in the mouth. The contract he signed just covered both him and the in the fact we can ask a decent fee mate Nothing has changed in his playing circumstances so a decent offer could see him gone
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 9:53:48 GMT
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Post by Onneravineet on Jul 23, 2016 9:53:48 GMT
Agreed mate, although I will not like seeing him leave it would be for the best IF we do sign a couple in his position(s). Walters has never been the type to sit on he bench and has the form to edge towards being a little caustic when he has been out of the team. I wouldn't want his time here to end with that kind of taste in the mouth. The contract he signed just covered both him and the in the fact we can ask a decent fee mate Nothing has changed in his playing circumstances so a decent offer could see him gone Yes totally agree, what number would you say would be decent? To the right man, say TP, I think it could be a little north of £5m?
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 9:54:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 9:54:45 GMT
Watched the season review back, he was such a threat. And our best aerial forward by far.
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Post by werrington on Jul 23, 2016 9:56:02 GMT
The contract he signed just covered both him and the in the fact we can ask a decent fee mate Nothing has changed in his playing circumstances so a decent offer could see him gone Yes totally agree, what number would you say would be decent? To the right man, say TP, I think it could be a little north of £5m? Given his age and experience that would cover it .....I could see a Burnley/Hull type club courting him or an ambitious championship club I'd keep him but I don't think he's overly happy
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2016 10:13:30 GMT
So all of "the anti's that don't exist" have commented on, or agreed with, that we should just play Diouf instead of signing someone else?
So if we don't sign any striker they won't moan?
Yeah right.
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 10:13:37 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 23, 2016 10:13:37 GMT
Diouf would be okay backup for whoever we get in, but I'd be surprised if he'd be happy with that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 11:44:55 GMT
Sparky said when he signed, that he would turn him into a world class striker. The only way to get him to this level, is to play him up front in every game. It hasn't happened up to now! Does he believe in him, or not? I don't personally, but would love him to prove me wrong!
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 11:48:13 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 23, 2016 11:48:13 GMT
Sparky said when he signed, that he would turn him into a world class striker. The only way to get him to this level, is to play him up front in every game. It hasn't happened up to now! Does he believe in him, or not? I don't personally, but would love him to prove me wrong! Its clear to me Hughes has gone off him since he signed and tbh I can see why, he just hasn't quite got whats needed to be a top striker, touch, finish etc, but I think for a midtable club he would be a decent option.
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Post by mailman44 on Jul 23, 2016 11:59:01 GMT
He's clearly shown he is good enough. First time I've agreed with Bayern since he said Orlando City had shocking discipline record .... Diouf wil get us 15 plus goals if he plays regularly and is a key defensive force with his ability to pressure the ball high up the pitch. His pace stretches the defense and opens up a lot of space. More than good enough for us.
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 17:42:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:42:41 GMT
Dat guy.
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 17:47:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:47:18 GMT
He's clearly shown he is good enough. First time I've agreed with Bayern since he said Orlando City had shocking discipline record .... Diouf wil get us 15 plus goals if he plays regularly and is a key defensive force with his ability to pressure the ball high up the pitch. His pace stretches the defense and opens up a lot of space. More than good enough for us. I agree 100%. Get the ball in the box and he'll score. Ok he'll miss a few but he's more than good enough for us. I hope he's given a chance up top and Hughes tweaks the playing style, become a bit more direct and play with a quicker tempo, especially at home.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:47:21 GMT
It's funny that if he had missed a sitter today and we lost 1-0 he would be slagged off to death. But he scored a good goal and now we don't need a new striker according to most.
Fickle
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jul 23, 2016 17:50:22 GMT
Scored a good goal today, committed and nearly had a second. In stark contrast - just what did Joselu do? Powder puff in comparison to Mame. For Christ's sake, give the guy a chance, give him a good run and he will get us goals. Nice touch by Imbula at the end: walked over to the fans in his stocking feet and said hello to a few Stokies. Better today.
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 17:54:29 GMT
Post by kustokie on Jul 23, 2016 17:54:29 GMT
He's clearly shown he is good enough. First time I've agreed with Bayern since he said Orlando City had shocking discipline record .... Diouf wil get us 15 plus goals if he plays regularly and is a key defensive force with his ability to pressure the ball high up the pitch. His pace stretches the defense and opens up a lot of space. More than good enough for us. The problem with that argument is that every mid table team has ambitions to get into the top 6, which means they have to make room in the squad for a striker, who's a step up from Diouf. Stoke seem to think Berahino is the player that will help them step up.
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 17:57:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:57:43 GMT
First time I've agreed with Bayern since he said Orlando City had shocking discipline record .... Diouf wil get us 15 plus goals if he plays regularly and is a key defensive force with his ability to pressure the ball high up the pitch. His pace stretches the defense and opens up a lot of space. More than good enough for us. The problem with that argument is that every mid table team has ambitions to get into the top 6, which means they have to make room in the squad for a striker, who's a step up from Diouf. Stoke seem to think Berahino is the player that will help them step up. I think we are a little way off the top six at the minute, even if we do get Berahino. There's just not enough goals in the team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 18:01:47 GMT
Diouf proving yet again that he is our main man up front.
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Diouf
Jul 23, 2016 18:03:08 GMT
Post by kustokie on Jul 23, 2016 18:03:08 GMT
The problem with that argument is that every mid table team has ambitions to get into the top 6, which means they have to make room in the squad for a striker, who's a step up from Diouf. Stoke seem to think Berahino is the player that will help them step up. I think we are a little way off the top six at the minute, even if we do get Berahino. There's just not enough goals in the team. I agree, we have several areas that need to be strengthened to move the "next level".
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Post by milky on Jul 23, 2016 18:14:38 GMT
I've said it before more than once and I haven't changed my opinion.
Play him in his natural position regularly and ,assume he stays injury free,he is capable of scoring 15+ goals in a season.
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