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Post by homer32 on Jul 16, 2016 8:43:17 GMT
This subject must have been raised but I must have missed it.We need a train station nearer the ground and as the line runs right by the ground, surely a station could be built and a path built up to the ground.I live near Birmingham and would use the train but the walk to/from the ground causes me problems and the train times after the game aren't convenient either.What has been said about this?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2016 9:00:49 GMT
Drive
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 16, 2016 9:03:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 9:05:29 GMT
Not gonna happen though is it, you'd need to build a line first, costs millions and could mean people having to sell their homes just for a few people to use once a fortnight
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Post by jaybee on Jul 16, 2016 9:05:47 GMT
I live near Market Drayton - our closest stations are Stafford,Crewe and Stoke  |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 16, 2016 9:07:03 GMT
This subject must have been raised but I must have missed it.We need a train station nearer the ground and as the line runs right by the ground, surely a station could be built and a path built up to the ground.I live near Birmingham and would use the train but the walk to/from the ground causes me problems and the train times after the game aren't convenient either.What has been said about this? It has been mentioned a few times in the past. I suggested using the marcroft engineers yard siding as a platform area. I guess cost and logistics of train timetables dictates. One day we'll get it done, probably around the time we need to look for a new ground. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 16, 2016 9:07:37 GMT
I live near Market Drayton - our closest stations are Stafford,Crewe and Stoke Get a petition going  |
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Post by werrington on Jul 16, 2016 9:08:24 GMT
Train times aren't convenient for Birmingham ?
They are every 20 mins until around 11pm in both directions !!!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jul 16, 2016 9:08:32 GMT
The council leader has said he would like two new stations:at the bet365 stadium and at Chatterley, Tunstall. Why he wants one at Chatterley when no-one uses near-by Longport is a mystery to me? The problem isn't building the station, it's running train services. Apart from the Derby-Crewe service there are very few stopping trains on the Stoke-Stone route. How would you cater for night matches? How do you deal with late, t.v. changes to the daily schedules? You could run a shuttle service between Stoke and the bet365 station but the cost would be extremely high. I couldn't see the Coates family subsidising the route unless it was a pre-condition for more stadium expansion?
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 16, 2016 9:11:19 GMT
Speaking of trains, Stoke was packed at 9 going Derby. I've had wait for the 10:39 one. Shocking from East Mids
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Post by werrington on Jul 16, 2016 9:11:54 GMT
The council leader has said he would like two new stations:at the bet365 stadium and at Chatterley, Tunstall. Why he wants one at Chatterley when no-one uses near-by Longport is a mystery to me? The problem isn't building the station, it's running train services. Apart from the Derby-Crewe service there are very few stopping trains on the Stoke-Stone route. How would you cater for night matches? How do you deal with late, t.v. changes to the daily schedules? You could run a shuttle service between Stoke and the bet365 station but the cost would be extremely high. I couldn't see the Coates family subsidising the route unless it was a pre-condition for more stadium expansion? The Derby train doesn't use that line mate and doesn't go past the stadium |
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Post by samba :) on Jul 16, 2016 9:14:21 GMT
This subject must have been raised but I must have missed it.We need a train station nearer the ground and as the line runs right by the ground, surely a station could be built and a path built up to the ground.I live near Birmingham and would use the train but the walk to/from the ground causes me problems and the train times after the game aren't convenient either.What has been said about this? i walk every game, and its further than it would be to walk from Longton train station |
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Post by Stav on Jul 16, 2016 9:18:22 GMT
I live near Market Drayton - our closest stations are Stafford,Crewe and Stoke ;)What's wrong with Norton-in-Hales |
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Post by Stav on Jul 16, 2016 9:19:13 GMT
What's wrong with Norton-in-Hales
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 9:22:23 GMT
Canal network ain't bad, and you can tether up next to the Boatcake. |
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Post by elystokie on Jul 16, 2016 9:25:12 GMT
This subject must have been raised but I must have missed it.We need a train station nearer the ground and as the line runs right by the ground, surely a station could be built and a path built up to the ground.I live near Birmingham and would use the train but the walk to/from the ground causes me problems and the train times after the game aren't convenient either.What has been said about this? i walk every game, and its further than it would be to walk from Longton train station Interesting, didn't realise that, can't be much in it thinking about it. I've walked from Stoke to the stadium along the canal a couple of times, ok with a can of beer but a bit of a jaunt. I wondered whether one of those little noddy type trains you get at the seaside would work, going up and down the towpath, could be quite pleasant :) |
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Post by homer32 on Jul 16, 2016 9:30:29 GMT
Thank you for that helpful suggestion I might look at that alternative  |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jul 16, 2016 9:30:40 GMT
The council leader has said he would like two new stations:at the bet365 stadium and at Chatterley, Tunstall. Why he wants one at Chatterley when no-one uses near-by Longport is a mystery to me? The problem isn't building the station, it's running train services. Apart from the Derby-Crewe service there are very few stopping trains on the Stoke-Stone route. How would you cater for night matches? How do you deal with late, t.v. changes to the daily schedules? You could run a shuttle service between Stoke and the bet365 station but the cost would be extremely high. I couldn't see the Coates family subsidising the route unless it was a pre-condition for more stadium expansion? The Derby train doesn't use that line mate and doesn't go past the stadium Yes, I know the Derby-Crewe service doesn't go past the stadium, I was pointing out it's the only local service left apart from a few Crewe-Stoke-Stafford Midland trains. Having said that, I've wondered if the Fenton station could be re-opened. At least, it's closer than Stoke station but again train services only run once an hour and stop at 21.00 hours. You can see how difficult a problem this is. |
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 16, 2016 9:42:18 GMT
I support the OP.
Some of the responses are very negative. for a country that "invented" trains the modern day attitude in the UK is dire, apart from the big city areas where millions of people rely on trains. The attitude of some Stokies is "drive" and "push bike" - not funny if you are disabled; a difficult treck from Stoke station.
The solution is the old chicken and egg problem, you need stations before people use trains, but we keep spending money on roads, which only leads to more people buying cars, which they then feel obliged to use having made the investment. We are so busy building houses in every nook and cranny but no consideration is given to how people move about, so then we build out of town shopping centres, "forcing" more cars and buses.
Unfortunately the railways are in such a mess and the costs so high, that I too come to the conclusion that it isn't going to happen, not in my lifetime.
One day someone will invent a vehicle that can run on the roads and on the railway; could be interesting.
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Post by homer32 on Jul 16, 2016 9:49:17 GMT
The council leader has said he would like two new stations:at the bet365 stadium and at Chatterley, Tunstall. Why he wants one at Chatterley when no-one uses near-by Longport is a mystery to me? The problem isn't building the station, it's running train services. Apart from the Derby-Crewe service there are very few stopping trains on the Stoke-Stone route. How would you cater for night matches? How do you deal with late, t.v. changes to the daily schedules? You could run a shuttle service between Stoke and the bet365 station but the cost would be extremely high. I couldn't see the Coates family subsidising the route unless it was a pre-condition for more stadium expansion? Thank you for your response, this really answers my question.The Stoke-Stone line isn't a busy line apparently and the costs of bringing out the trains from Stoke would be costly . I look at it from a selfish point of view and see my train going past the ground into Stoke knowing I've got to walk/bus all the way back. Thanks |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2016 9:51:49 GMT
I support the OP. Some of the responses are very negative. for a country that "invented" trains the modern day attitude in the UK is dire, apart from the big city areas where millions of people rely on trains. The attitude of some Stokies is "drive" and "push bike" - not funny if you are disabled; a difficult treck from Stoke station. The solution is the old chicken and egg problem, you need stations before people use trains, but we keep spending money on roads, which only leads to more people buying cars, which they then feel obliged to use having made the investment. We are so busy building houses in every nook and cranny but no consideration is given to how people move about, so then we build out of town shopping centres, "forcing" more cars and buses. Unfortunately the railways are in such a mess and the costs so high, that I too come to the conclusion that it isn't going to happen, not in my lifetime. One day someone will invent a vehicle that can run on the roads and on the railway; could be interesting. My reaction was completely based on this being the 373849th time this has been posted and the answer remains the same......it ain't going to happen any time soon. |
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Post by werrington on Jul 16, 2016 9:54:51 GMT
The council leader has said he would like two new stations:at the bet365 stadium and at Chatterley, Tunstall. Why he wants one at Chatterley when no-one uses near-by Longport is a mystery to me? The problem isn't building the station, it's running train services. Apart from the Derby-Crewe service there are very few stopping trains on the Stoke-Stone route. How would you cater for night matches? How do you deal with late, t.v. changes to the daily schedules? You could run a shuttle service between Stoke and the bet365 station but the cost would be extremely high. I couldn't see the Coates family subsidising the route unless it was a pre-condition for more stadium expansion? Thank you for your response, this really answers my question.The Stoke-Stone line isn't a busy line apparently and the costs of bringing out the trains from Stoke would be costly . I look at it from a selfish point of view and see my train going past the ground into Stoke knowing I've got to walk/bus all the way back. Thanks Isn't that life in general though homer I'm not taking the piss but that scenario could be the motorway going past your house with no junction etc etc I honestly couldn't see many using it as if somebody just missed a train it's quicker to make their way into Stoke as they would be hourly as no way would a Virgin train stop |
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Post by loosestools on Jul 16, 2016 9:55:04 GMT
How about a Boris Bike system, mind you the A53 from Market Drayton would be a nightmare for other road users
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2016 9:57:48 GMT
Thank you for your response, this really answers my question.The Stoke-Stone line isn't a busy line apparently and the costs of bringing out the trains from Stoke would be costly . I look at it from a selfish point of view and see my train going past the ground into Stoke knowing I've got to walk/bus all the way back. Thanks Isn't that life in general though homer I'm not taking the piss but that scenario could be the motorway going past your house with no junction etc etc I honestly couldn't see many using it as if somebody just missed a train it's quicker to make their way into Stoke as they would be hourly as no way would a Virgin train stop Yup you'd need a dedicated line that a train essentially could be used a shuttle service. So you'd need a new platform at Stoke station and probably to go over the junction for Derby. For what? |
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Post by a.d.faye.god on Jul 16, 2016 10:04:46 GMT
Completely agree with the op and mrcoke. I live in sandbach. Currently a return to Stoke on a Saturday costs more than £10 and getting from some station to the stadium is a pain. It costs me £5 to park at the ground and approx £5 in petrol, so £10 seems good if you are on your own, but I normally go with my dad, so the train is twice as expensive and more hassle - it should be the easiest way really.
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Post by ohbottom on Jul 16, 2016 10:06:20 GMT
I don't see why it would cost a vast amount of money. I live near Newbury. Newbury racecourse has a station. It's on one of the main lines between Paddington and the West Country - it's a busy line. The station is basically just a platform and a footbridge. On racedays, local trains going through make an extra stop and there's a shuttle to Reading. It's really no big deal. Why should it be so complicated and expensive to do something similar for SCFC?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2016 10:08:51 GMT
I don't see why it would cost a vast amount of money. I live near Newbury. Newbury racecourse has a station. It's on one of the main lines between Paddington and the West Country - it's a busy line. The station is basically just a platform and a footbridge. On racedays, local trains going through make an extra stop and there's a shuttle to Reading. It's really no big deal. Why should it be so complicated and expensive to do something similar for SCFC? There's 1 service that would serve that has already been cut to the bones because that's what they do. They'd need to build a platform at the ground and probably at Stoke station. And Richard Branson wouldn't like it. |
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Post by richardparker on Jul 16, 2016 10:12:13 GMT
How about a Boris Bike system, mind you the A53 from Market Drayton would be a nightmare for other road users What exactly is a Boris bike system? I'm a bit loathe to see credit for that idiot with anything positive. If you're talking about his influence on cycling in London, he merely exploited a situation that was inevitable anyway. As for the station, I think penrithpotter hit the nail on the head. Forget it, as it would be a gross waste of money, not to mention inconvenience for many. |
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 16, 2016 10:12:55 GMT
How about a Boris Bike system, mind you the A53 from Market Drayton would be a nightmare for other road users Tony Trikes? Scholerblades? A Municycle? |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jul 16, 2016 10:22:52 GMT
How about a Boris Bike system, mind you the A53 from Market Drayton would be a nightmare for other road users Tony Trikes? Scholerblades? A Municycle?  |
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