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Post by bignickhowes on Jul 3, 2016 19:12:11 GMT
Anyone been watching the tour? I'm in France atm and been to both stages so far, its a great day out
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Post by salopstick on Jul 3, 2016 19:22:39 GMT
I watched most of it on tv the coverage is great.
I like the tactics of it and the Pelaton chasing the breakaway
Loads of crashes yesterday and a great sprint finish.
Won't get to see much of it on the week days but will watch the weekends.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 3, 2016 19:28:16 GMT
It's a proper spectacle. The lad loves itXx
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 20:05:21 GMT
I watch it every day, and all other cycling on Eurosport as well - absolutely love it. I am going over to France for a few days next week but specially for the Mont Ventoux stage on 14th July. Just hope that Chris Froome can successfully defend this year and win yet again for the Brits, but I have a nasty feeling that this will be Nairo Quintana's year.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 3, 2016 20:14:38 GMT
Caught it on holiday a few years ago going through a small West Coast seaside town. What a show, all over in a flash. It'd be great if Froome can pull it off again but reckon he's got some significant guys there after him.
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Post by salopstick on Jul 3, 2016 20:31:07 GMT
When you attend do you go to the finish line and watch the end of the stage?
What other stuff do they put on
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 3, 2016 20:46:40 GMT
We were mid stage. For about the first hour or so a steady flow of PR types come through handing out goodies. Badges and stickers. All smallish stuff. Dragged on a bit but pelaton goes so fast it's worth the wait. As for the chequered flag bit, don't know.
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Post by bignickhowes on Jul 3, 2016 20:54:59 GMT
When you attend do you go to the finish line and watch the end of the stage? What other stuff do they put on I went to the stage finish today. They were giving out a load of free stuff from hats to bread/meat. Its just a great spectacle and being a cyclist myself I can see just how talented these guys are
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jul 3, 2016 20:57:20 GMT
Great to see Cav wear yellow nice one to cross off his list. I hope he gets the olympic medal he craves.
Plenty of talking points today as well with Contador and Porte losing a decent amount of time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 4:38:50 GMT
I think there are several riders who could win this year - Froome, Contador, Pinot,, Bardet, Porte, Van Garderen, Quintana, Aru, Nibali or someone unexpected like Tom Dumoulin, but I think it will come down to a battle between Chris Froome and Nairo Quintana with Quintana coming out winner. He has two second places in his two tours to date and I think he will have the experience to win this year. Being a Team Sky fan I would love Chris Froome to win it again, or if not him then Richie Porte or Tejay van GArderen from BMC. Contador has already lost time and is injured. Porte lost time yesterday due to a puncture. Aru and Nibali will be in-fighting with Astana. Bardet is perhaps still not quite strong enough or consistent enough to win. Pinot could have a good chance and could certainly be on the final podium. I think Chris Froome's chance depends on how strong Sky are in the mountains but they have already had two riders involved in a crash on stage one, so it depends how quickly they can recover. Movistar seem the one team with no issues at the moment, which will unfortunately assist Quintana (can't stand him for some reason).
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Post by salopstick on Jul 4, 2016 19:13:21 GMT
Another great finish. Hopefully he can race next year and beat the record for stage wins
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 19:27:49 GMT
Great win for Cav today. I thought that after he left Sky for Omega Pharma (then to be Etixx) Quick-step his career was on the downward spiral. Then it seemed he had taken yet another sideways/backwards move to Dimension Data but it really seems to have revitalised him. I think he's level on TDF wins with the great Bernard Hinault now, it would be great for him to grab another couple of stage wins this year and then return next year and beat the record.
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Post by bignickhowes on Jul 4, 2016 20:33:05 GMT
went to the stage start today, was soo busy but saw a few riders, notably Geriant Thomas. Great win for cav, looking back to his best
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Post by salopstick on Jul 4, 2016 20:41:15 GMT
went to the stage start today, was soo busy but saw a few riders, notably Geriant Thomas. Great win for cav, looking back to his best Speaks so well of his cause too
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 5, 2016 18:36:26 GMT
Just in from work and watching some action. Where's Hugh Porter and Co with their great insightful comments about the countryside and history snippets. Quite liked those bits.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 18:49:31 GMT
Just in from work and watching some action. Where's Hugh Porter and Co with their great insightful comments about the countryside and history snippets. Quite liked those bits. I agree, ITV4 usually have Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen commentating every day, but this year they have gone with Ned Boulting and David "Mr Charisma" Millar (although he has only just retired so can give a little bit more of the tactical summaries) and I think the presentation is really poor. The Tour just doesn't seem the same this year as a result, it's just like any other race/tour, as IMO Liggett and Sherwen always brought that little bit extra to the coverage. I have been watching it more on Eurosport as a result, and even though Carlton Kirby does a good job commentating it just doesn't feel like the Tour this year. Maybe it's me not liking change, although I don't think this change is for the better this year. Edit Cycling Weekly article : ITV4 used to buy in Liggett and Sherwen’s commentary from an internationally distributed audio feed – the same commentary is used by NBC in America and SBS in Australia, among others. And that’s where you can still hear Liggett and Sherwen. However ITV4 have decided to use their own commentary team instead (cost cutting?).
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Post by salopstick on Jul 5, 2016 19:01:55 GMT
Tomorrows stage will sort these sprinters out
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 5, 2016 19:20:56 GMT
Just in from work and watching some action. Where's Hugh Porter and Co with their great insightful comments about the countryside and history snippets. Quite liked those bits. I agree, ITV4 usually have Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen commentating every day, but this year they have gone with Ned Boulting and David "Mr Charisma" Millar (although he has only just retired so can give a little bit more of the tactical summaries) and I think the presentation is really poor. The Tour just doesn't seem the same this year as a result, it's just like any other race/tour, as IMO Liggett and Sherwen always brought that little bit extra to the coverage. I have been watching it more on Eurosport as a result, and even though Carlton Kirby does a good job commentating it just doesn't feel like the Tour this year. Maybe it's me not liking change, although I don't think this change is for the better this year. Edit Cycling Weekly article : ITV4 used to buy in Liggett and Sherwen’s commentary from an internationally distributed audio feed – the same commentary is used by NBC in America and SBS in Australia, among others. And that’s where you can still hear Liggett and Sherwen. However ITV4 have decided to use their own commentary team instead (cost cutting?). Yes, I agree. Put me in the same category as well. It comes across as just another cycling event. Interesting about the commentary feed. Won't stop watching but the feel isn't quite there. Doesn't bring out the francophile in me.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 6, 2016 18:06:46 GMT
Just in from work and watching some action. Where's Hugh Porter and Co with their great insightful comments about the countryside and history snippets. Quite liked those bits. I agree, ITV4 usually have Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen commentating every day, but this year they have gone with Ned Boulting and David "Mr Charisma" Millar (although he has only just retired so can give a little bit more of the tactical summaries) and I think the presentation is really poor. The Tour just doesn't seem the same this year as a result, it's just like any other race/tour, as IMO Liggett and Sherwen always brought that little bit extra to the coverage. I have been watching it more on Eurosport as a result, and even though Carlton Kirby does a good job commentating it just doesn't feel like the Tour this year. Maybe it's me not liking change, although I don't think this change is for the better this year. Edit Cycling Weekly article : ITV4 used to buy in Liggett and Sherwen’s commentary from an internationally distributed audio feed – the same commentary is used by NBC in America and SBS in Australia, among others. And that’s where you can still hear Liggett and Sherwen. However ITV4 have decided to use their own commentary team instead (cost cutting?). Le Tour without Ligget & Sherwen is like Wimbledon without Dan Maskell. Ned Boulting and David Millar did La Vuelta last year, and I thought they did a good job of it, perhaps that's why they went in-house this year. They are not the same as Phil and Paul, but I'm OK with them. I also really like what Millar has to say, he spots things that I just don't see, and gives me a clearer understanding of what the riders are going through.
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Post by salopstick on Jul 6, 2016 18:40:09 GMT
I agree, ITV4 usually have Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen commentating every day, but this year they have gone with Ned Boulting and David "Mr Charisma" Millar (although he has only just retired so can give a little bit more of the tactical summaries) and I think the presentation is really poor. The Tour just doesn't seem the same this year as a result, it's just like any other race/tour, as IMO Liggett and Sherwen always brought that little bit extra to the coverage. I have been watching it more on Eurosport as a result, and even though Carlton Kirby does a good job commentating it just doesn't feel like the Tour this year. Maybe it's me not liking change, although I don't think this change is for the better this year. Edit Cycling Weekly article : ITV4 used to buy in Liggett and Sherwen’s commentary from an internationally distributed audio feed – the same commentary is used by NBC in America and SBS in Australia, among others. And that’s where you can still hear Liggett and Sherwen. However ITV4 have decided to use their own commentary team instead (cost cutting?). Le Tour without Ligget & Sherwen is like Wimbledon without Dan Maskell. Ned Boulting and David Millar did La Vuelta last year, and I thought they did a good job of it, perhaps that's why they went in-house this year. They are not the same as Phil and Paul, but I'm OK with them. I also really like what Millar has to say, he spots things that I just don't see, and gives me a clearer understanding of what the riders are going through. Pain That's what they are going through
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Post by salopstick on Jul 7, 2016 18:29:15 GMT
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jul 7, 2016 20:39:29 GMT
CCCAAAAVVVVV.
So much for him being finished as a top class sprinter.
Great to see Dan McClay make the podium as well. Big career in store for him.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 7, 2016 21:22:20 GMT
I don't get it.... how has Cavendish won 3 out of 6 stages (or whatever it is) but atill nowhere near the top of the standings?
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 7, 2016 21:49:24 GMT
I don't get it.... how has Cavendish won 3 out of 6 stages (or whatever it is) but atill nowhere near the top of the standings? The total standings (General Classification), is based upon the total time accumulated, in reaching the finishing line in each stage. Cav has won stages, but he's lost a lot of time in others that did not suit his style of cycling. There's a lot more to it than just that, but that's the short answer.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 7, 2016 22:01:21 GMT
I don't get it.... how has Cavendish won 3 out of 6 stages (or whatever it is) but atill nowhere near the top of the standings? The total standings (General Classification), is based upon the total time accumulated, in reaching the finishing line in each stage. Cav has won stages, but he's lost a lot of time in others that did not suit his style of cycling. There's a lot more to it than just that, but that's the short answer. So when he hasn't won, he has finished further behind than the distance he has won by?
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Post by salopstick on Jul 7, 2016 22:03:27 GMT
The total standings (General Classification), is based upon the total time accumulated, in reaching the finishing line in each stage. Cav has won stages, but he's lost a lot of time in others that did not suit his style of cycling. There's a lot more to it than just that, but that's the short answer. So when he hasn't won, he has finished further behind than the distance he has won by? Yep He's great on the sprint stages not great on the mountains
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 7, 2016 22:09:46 GMT
The total standings (General Classification), is based upon the total time accumulated, in reaching the finishing line in each stage. Cav has won stages, but he's lost a lot of time in others that did not suit his style of cycling. There's a lot more to it than just that, but that's the short answer. So when he hasn't won, he has finished further behind than the distance he has won by? The key here, is not distance, it's time, and the riders like Froome, are very consistent and do well in most situations, rather than being specialists. Again, this is not always the case, as pure climbers and time trialists can win the Tour, sprinters like Cav are similar to Usain Bolt, in that they are both crap at endurance racing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 23:11:32 GMT
I have been following the tour since the late sixties. Watched many stages live. The best was in Paris in 2012 when Wiggins won the tour and Cavendish won the stage. This occurred shortly after the death of my best mate who was keen advocate of cycling, a national coach, a commisaire and and a track judge. He would have loved to see a brit win the tour. So it was very emotional for me. The second best was at Guzet-Neige ski station, with my aforementioned friend, when Robert Millar won the stage finishing 40 seconds in front of Luis Herra. Millar won the king of the mountains that year. It keeps me going through the close season
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 20:28:29 GMT
Fantastic result for Steve Cummings today - richly deserved. He has won a stage in every tour that he has started this year. Also another win for Dimension Data following on from Cav's 3 wins so far. Looking at the GC and also watching the stages so far Quintana is sitting right on Chris Froome's wheel and looks like he has learned from his mistakes in his previous tours where he allowed Froome to get away during an early stage and who then subsequently won the TDF at that point. This year Quintana looks as though he is just waiting for the Pyrenees (starting tomorrow) and then the Alps to make his move. Movistar also look far more motivated this year so it's well set for a battle between them and Sky to set their leaders up for the win.
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Post by Mendicant on Jul 8, 2016 21:15:13 GMT
I have been following the tour since the late sixties. Watched many stages live. The best was in Paris in 2012 when Wiggins won the tour and Cavendish won the stage. This occurred shortly after the death of my best mate who was keen advocate of cycling, a national coach, a commisaire and and a track judge. He would have loved to see a brit win the tour. So it was very emotional for me. The second best was at Guzet-Neige ski station, with my aforementioned friend, when Robert Millar won the stage finishing 40 seconds in front of Luis Herra. Millar won the king of the mountains that year. It keeps me going through the close season That's one hell of a photo! Great story too, thanks for sharing.
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