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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 25, 2016 18:41:44 GMT
This is not a criticism believe me but I don't quite get what we're doing as there seems to be no consistency in the way we work.
Today we've had a second bid turned down for a Dundee U youngster and it looks like we're trying to get this "next big thing" Sobhi on loan rather than paying a smallish fee which I'm pretty sure we'd get back.
Then on the other hand we're happy to spend massive on Imbula and Shaq.
It's almost like we're on one hand scrimping and scraping and the other massive spenders.
Maybe it's just us being cute and getting value. One things for sure we're in for a rollercoaster of a summer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 18:42:20 GMT
Ask Benji he'll tell you....
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jun 25, 2016 18:45:43 GMT
sensible one. The bid for the Dundee Utd youngster would be what thought he was worth, getting Sobhi on line would mean that we could see if he was good enough to play in the prem before buying him.
Isnt that the proper way to do it??
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Post by alster on Jun 25, 2016 18:47:50 GMT
This is not a criticism believe me but I don't quite get what we're doing as there seems to be no consistency in the way we work. Today we've had a second bid turned down for a Dundee U youngster and it looks like we're trying to get this "next big thing" Sobhi on loan rather than paying a smallish fee which I'm pretty sure we'd get back. Then on the other hand we're happy to spend massive on Imbula and Shaq. It's almost like we're on one hand scrimping and scraping and the other massive spenders. Maybe it's just us being cute and getting value. One things for sure we're in for a rollercoaster of a summer. Think we're willing to spend big on immediate first team upgrades but these lads just don't meet that criteria. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 25, 2016 18:47:59 GMT
I don't think you have to exclusively have one 'type' of signing in exclusion of all others do you? It seems sensible to me that we'd go for some young talent, some stars, some experience, some overseas talent etc. That's exactly what we should be doing.
Newcastle's policy of only signing players under 25 was a complete disaster.
What I hope we do is sign some craggy-arsed Prem-proven grit in addition to our forays into the overseas market.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 18:48:43 GMT
This is not a criticism believe me but I don't quite get what we're doing as there seems to be no consistency in the way we work. Today we've had a second bid turned down for a Dundee U youngster and it looks like we're trying to get this "next big thing" Sobhi on loan rather than paying a smallish fee which I'm pretty sure we'd get back. Then on the other hand we're happy to spend massive on Imbula and Shaq. It's almost like we're on one hand scrimping and scraping and the other massive spenders. Maybe it's just us being cute and getting value. One things for sure we're in for a rollercoaster of a summer. Ultimately everything you read is speculation, so when people question our transfer strategy based on information that may not even be true it's a little bit spurious (not a dig at you by the way I blame social media where everyone on Twitter claims to be "in the know") |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 25, 2016 18:50:35 GMT
Apples.
Trees.
Ground.
Not necessarily in that order.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 18:52:55 GMT
To sign really good footballers in every position I reckon.
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Post by miggo on Jun 25, 2016 18:53:05 GMT
It's all about paying the right price for the right player. Just because we have money doesn't mean we should spend for the sake of it.
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Post by Gods on Jun 25, 2016 19:06:50 GMT
I don't know but I suspect it is a bit like buying a house. You set out wanting 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, downstairs toilet, south facing garden, quiet neighbours but sometimes you just feel good about a place, think to yourself 'I could see myself living here' and once you have that emotional connection you are prepared to be flexible around your original requirements. In other words much of the time we are just winging it, going on a hunch  |
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Post by alster on Jun 25, 2016 19:08:30 GMT
I don't know but I suspect it is a bit like buying a house. You set out wanting 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, downstairs toilet, south facing garden, quiet neighbours but sometimes you just feel good about a place, think to yourself 'I could see myself living here' and once you have that emotional connection you are prepared to be flexible around your original requirements. "emotional connection" sounds a bit girly to me. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 25, 2016 19:11:01 GMT
Don't know why but I'm convinced well spend big on a striker and DM. I can see us spending 50m
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 19:14:03 GMT
We've done well in the market for the last few years and we're playing catch up against a lot of sides in respect of buying players that have loads of sell on at low-ish fees.
Imbula and Shaqiri are examples of larger fees that have been fed by the two seasons of low-ish fees and frees.
No club gets it all right every time.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 25, 2016 19:17:17 GMT
Our transfer strategy is signing players.
I hope this helps.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 25, 2016 19:20:24 GMT
Yeah I hate this offering what we think the player is worth nonsense.
Have West Ham got any season tickets left?
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 25, 2016 19:27:13 GMT
Don't know why but I'm convinced well spend big on a striker and DM. I can see us spending 50m How are we going to do that with such an inept transfer team? |
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Post by werrington on Jun 25, 2016 19:28:30 GMT
Dear fucking God
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 25, 2016 19:29:18 GMT
I can sense the theme of the summer. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 25, 2016 19:32:16 GMT
Don't know why but I'm convinced well spend big on a striker and DM. I can see us spending 50m How are we going to do that with such an inept transfer team? When have I said inept. Just a point being raised. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 25, 2016 19:32:31 GMT
We're trying to get the Egyptian lad on loan?  Top Carto action that is! |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 25, 2016 19:34:33 GMT
How are we going to do that with such an inept transfer team? When have I said inept. Just a point being raised. Your posts over the last week. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 25, 2016 19:40:02 GMT
Not inept just hope MH has more incolvement than TS in the deals as he's a football man and for me is the main pull for players. I just see TS as more of an accountant figure.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 25, 2016 19:42:29 GMT
Four of those letters are accurate! |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 25, 2016 19:45:38 GMT
Well you're hardly gonna get him for free. Dear is right. If Vardy is worth 20 million plus, God has to be 50 million at least. |
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Post by slother on Jun 25, 2016 19:49:14 GMT
I don't know but I suspect it is a bit like buying a house. You set out wanting 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, downstairs toilet, south facing garden, quiet neighbours but sometimes you just feel good about a place, think to yourself 'I could see myself living here' and once you have that emotional connection you are prepared to be flexible around your original requirements. "emotional connection" sounds a bit girly to me. Semi-on for the transfer schlong any better? |
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jun 25, 2016 22:30:10 GMT
I do believe our transfer strategy evolves around football manager and/or Fifa. Which ever Cartwright and Scholes are playing during the transfer windows
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 25, 2016 23:00:29 GMT
I have it on good authority that many irons are in plenty of fires.
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Post by march4 on Jun 25, 2016 23:07:00 GMT
Our policy is Brexit all the way.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 26, 2016 7:38:02 GMT
Without wishing to state the obvious:
1. Sign players to strengthen in our weakest positions and to strengthen the squad generally. Under the Hughes regime we have purchased a LB, leased a player to replace N'Zonzi, (didn't work out), etc. and tried to sign players who were not prepared to come to Stoke, e.g. Moses.
2. Look through the list of players out of contract and sign anyone who could do a job for us. Some have worked out well (Johnson, Affelay); some haven't.
3. Look for bargains; talented players who have lost their way in their careers and could potentially do a job for us.
4. Retain the best of what we have, e.g Crouch, Walters to date. However some players see their future elsewhere, e.g. N'Zonzi, and eventually everyone has to move on: Wingie.
5. Sign young players for the future.
6. Try and sign the elusive 20+ goals a season striker, like every other club is trying to do. Not succeeded do far, but keep trying.
7. (The club has declared its intention to) sign English players this summer. Presumably because of the impending need to replace aging home grown players and lack of product yet from the academy.
8. Sign players early in the transfer windows. Get the job done asap instead of leaving fate to the last couple of days of the transfer window.
9. Release players who do not figure in the future concept that MH and his management team are trying to create. Sometimes this is hard for us to bear, e.g. Huth.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 13:32:50 GMT
Transfer strategy ?
Perhaps its:-
Buy better players than we already have got, at bargain prices, secure them on long contracts and, pay them peanuts
gotta be that surely ?
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