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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 12:35:25 GMT
Ive always liked hodgson but.... since snubbing shawcross im not sure?
Smalling has been a weak link for club and country....he may regret not taking shawcross (he holds players less than smalling)
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 12:37:05 GMT
When hes on his game like against whu...hes the best!!!
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Post by clarkeda on May 29, 2016 12:37:19 GMT
I'll bite.
Smalling has had a really good year for club and county and Ryan hasn't been up to his normal imperious self tbh.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 12:39:42 GMT
A year ago I would have agreed, but Smalling has been excellent this year and given Ryan's poor end of season form I think a few others like Dann would have been ahead of him
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Post by roylandstoke on May 29, 2016 12:40:22 GMT
Ryan needs to spend the summer getting himself totally fit so he can lead our assault on the title next season.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 29, 2016 12:42:30 GMT
When i see people slagging off Smalling the only thing i can think is that they're basing it on all the bashing him and Phil Jones got a few years back for being woeful (which they were) and haven't watched any football since! If they had then they'd surely have noticed it's very apparent what a good player Smalling has turned into.
P.S. Jones is still shit though
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 12:47:08 GMT
Smalling has become a very good player, to say he has had a poor season is just ridiculous.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 29, 2016 13:15:16 GMT
More chance of Wilshere giving a helping hand to a pensioner, than Ryan getting another England Cap.
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Post by MilanStokie on May 29, 2016 13:59:46 GMT
Ive always liked hodgson but.... since snubbing shawcross im not sure? Smalling has been a weak link for club and country....he may regret not taking shawcross (he holds players less than smalling) now I know you quite slow on the uptake of news but fuck me, shawcross for England threads are a once a month thing on here for a good 6 years! how far behind are you!?
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Post by Onneravineet on May 29, 2016 14:40:29 GMT
Dawson and Davies will be called up before Ryan.
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Post by miltonpotterfan on May 29, 2016 15:08:33 GMT
shawcross better than Smalling?
???????????? he's played under Fergie, Van Gaal and no doubt will be first choice for Mourinho
Take ya tints off they are making you look stupid
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Post by milky on May 29, 2016 15:45:41 GMT
Smalling is far and away the best central defender we have available.
The fact that Tydesley and Hoddle were fawning over an ok performance by Stones against an abysmal Australia says a lot about the problems we have.
No one in their right mind could expect Ryan to get picked based on the last injury ravaged season..then again he couldn't pick Wilshire quick enough once he could prove he could fasten his boots.
Sadly if Ryan had played out of his skin in all 38 games Hodgson still wouldn't have picked him.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 15:50:24 GMT
Smalling is far and away the best central defender we have available. The fact that Tydesley and Hoddle were fawning over an ok performance by Stones against an abysmal Australia says a lot about the problems we have. No one in their right mind could expect Ryan to get picked based on the last injury ravaged season..then again he couldn't pick Wilshire quick enough once he could prove he could fasten his boots. Sadly if Ryan had played out of his skin in all 38 games Hodgson still wouldn't have picked him. That last sentence is bob on, and is a real wounder. A shame for the lad, but we still have him here - and should play a big part for us next season.
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Post by StokieNath on May 29, 2016 15:53:10 GMT
Ive always liked hodgson but.... since snubbing shawcross im not sure? Smalling has been a weak link for club and country....he may regret not taking shawcross (he holds players less than smalling) your nothing but an attention seeking whore.
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Post by spitthedog on May 29, 2016 16:58:37 GMT
Ive always liked hodgson but.... since snubbing shawcross im not sure? Smalling has been a weak link for club and country....he may regret not taking shawcross (he holds players less than smalling) your nothing but an attention seeking whore. I have to agree. Let's put it this way, there is nobody outside of Stoke-on-Trent who would consider Shawcross deserves a call up on his most recent form. He is not fit and has played in a defence that has been leaking goals. At least Stones is fit and can pass a football.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 17:01:17 GMT
I'll bite. Smalling has had a really good year for club and county and Ryan hasn't been up to his normal imperious self tbh. dont totally agree.... shawcross is better than him at this moment smalling has been a liability and cringworthy a lot of the time
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 17:03:09 GMT
Ive always liked hodgson but.... since snubbing shawcross im not sure? Smalling has been a weak link for club and country....he may regret not taking shawcross (he holds players less than smalling) now I know you quite slow on the uptake of news but fuck me, shawcross for England threads are a once a month thing on here for a good 6 years! how far behind are you!? i know that...but he is still the better choice in my opinion....at this moment
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Post by milky on May 29, 2016 17:10:16 GMT
Smalling is far and away the best central defender we have available. The fact that Tydesley and Hoddle were fawning over an ok performance by Stones against an abysmal Australia says a lot about the problems we have. No one in their right mind could expect Ryan to get picked based on the last injury ravaged season..then again he couldn't pick Wilshire quick enough once he could prove he could fasten his boots. Sadly if Ryan had played out of his skin in all 38 games Hodgson still wouldn't have picked him. That last sentence is bob on, and is a real wounder. A shame for the lad, but we still have him here - and should play a big part for us next season. The only time Hodgson would ever pick Ryan again is in the (unlikely )event there is ever a media campaign to get him selected.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 29, 2016 17:12:40 GMT
I'll bite. Smalling has had a really good year for club and county and Ryan hasn't been up to his normal imperious self tbh. dont totally agree.... shawcross is better than him at this moment smalling has been a liability and cringworthy a lot of the time Do you actually watch games when Smalling is playing, Misty? Most impartial footy fans would say that, after a dodgy season or two, Smalling has turned things round and is now the best and most consistent English central defender for club and country. At his best and when fully fit (and that is not for the past 15 months!) Shawcross would make a good partner for Smalling but on the way this season has panned out Smalling deserves to be first choice English cb in France and Ryan deserves to have a summer of rest and recuperation in the hope that he gets back to his best for next season.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 17:43:41 GMT
Ryan has just finished his toughest season to date his injuries need to be rested, so if you're reading this Ryan go on holiday drink some beer and put your feet up mate you deserve it. See you next season rested fit and back to being captain fantastic.
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Post by uknorse on May 29, 2016 18:40:56 GMT
never mind whos better than who........ how the fuck can you say you've always liked hodgson?..... hes fucking useless, always has been, always will be ;-)
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Post by mermaidsal on May 29, 2016 19:06:49 GMT
dont totally agree.... shawcross is better than him at this moment smalling has been a liability and cringworthy a lot of the time Do you actually watch games when Smalling is playing, Misty? Most impartial footy fans would say that, after a dodgy season or two, Smalling has turned things round and is now the best and most consistent English central defender for club and country. At his best and when fully fit (and that is not for the past 15 months!) Shawcross would make a good partner for Smalling but on the way this season has panned out Smalling deserves to be first choice English cb in France and Ryan deserves to have a summer of rest and recuperation in the hope that he gets back to his best for next season. Agreed - Smalling does have the odd mare of a game but so does Ryan and tbh of the two of them, Ryan is the more prone to unforced errors - BUT, and this is a massive but, Ryan has heart above any defender in the current England squad and that's something money can't buy. On the evidence of the friendlies we're missing it badly and it will be a potential weak spot in the tournament. Tony Adams had it in shovefuls, John Terry has it and in this generation, Ryan is the man and should have been a first pick for 3 or 4 seasons, I truly believe, for that reason. He's also been horribly unlucky this season. He was so massive on our amazing mid-season run I can't believe Woy wasn't ready to have a rethink and at least give him another try... and then his back packed in again, he's 29 next year and except as an emergency replacement, I can't see him threatening an England squad again at this age I would love to be wrong of course...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 19:44:31 GMT
dont totally agree.... shawcross is better than him at this moment smalling has been a liability and cringworthy a lot of the time Do you actually watch games when Smalling is playing, Misty? Most impartial footy fans would say that, after a dodgy season or two, Smalling has turned things round and is now the best and most consistent English central defender for club and country. At his best and when fully fit (and that is not for the past 15 months!) Shawcross would make a good partner for Smalling but on the way this season has panned out Smalling deserves to be first choice English cb in France and Ryan deserves to have a summer of rest and recuperation in the hope that he gets back to his best for next season. most of the games ive seen him in, he hasnt been any better than shawcross...apart from when shawcross was injured....he grabs hold of players more than shawcross and has been a liability (sent off) shawcross showed that he was back to his game against whu......just saying at this very moment (tues- hodgson has to name his squad) shawcross is a good contender...if only on the bench
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Post by robstokie on May 29, 2016 20:01:24 GMT
To be honest, im glad that Ryan isn't going to the euros. At least theres no chance of him doing his back in again and being fucked for most of next season as well. However, I believe that Ryan, when fit, is the best English nuts and bolts centre half by far. Unfortunately, a bad cameo against Sweden and the fact he plays for us instead of a more 'glamourous' club has probably cost him a career at international level.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 20:19:02 GMT
To be honest, im glad that Ryan isn't going to the euros. At least theres no chance of him doing his back in again and being fucked for most of next season as well. However, I believe that Ryan, when fit, is the best English nuts and bolts centre half by far. Unfortunately, a bad cameo against Sweden and the fact he plays for us instead of a more 'glamourous' club has probably cost him a career at international level. thats why i dont like what hodgson has done to shawcross...especially with all the mistakes others have made
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Post by thebet365 on May 29, 2016 22:21:51 GMT
Do you actually watch games when Smalling is playing, Misty? Most impartial footy fans would say that, after a dodgy season or two, Smalling has turned things round and is now the best and most consistent English central defender for club and country. At his best and when fully fit (and that is not for the past 15 months!) Shawcross would make a good partner for Smalling but on the way this season has panned out Smalling deserves to be first choice English cb in France and Ryan deserves to have a summer of rest and recuperation in the hope that he gets back to his best for next season. most of the games ive seen him in, he hasnt been any better than shawcross...apart from when shawcross was injured....he grabs hold of players more than shawcross and has been a liability (sent off) shawcross showed that he was back to his game against whu......just saying at this very moment (tues- hodgson has to name his squad) shawcross is a good contender...if only on the bench You haven't watched many this season then. Smalling has been a very solid all round CB this season and is easily England's no 1 choice at the back. Ryan should have been ahead of him in the past but as of now today may 30th 2016 Smalling is rightly a fair bit ahead
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Post by heworksardtho on May 29, 2016 22:27:48 GMT
Can he still play for Wales if so tell woy to fook off
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Post by swampySCFC on May 29, 2016 22:36:00 GMT
However good you think Smalling Jones Cahill etc are, it is in this area that England are most susceptible. Woy needs a free scoring team to do anything
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 22:51:08 GMT
Give up talking about this, it'll never happen!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 23:45:29 GMT
The only way he might get in is, if hodgson leaves or gets sacked after the euros
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