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Post by dutchstokie on May 24, 2016 22:15:04 GMT
On BBC 2 now.......fascinating and get quite sad at the same time
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Post by ukcstokie on May 24, 2016 23:11:24 GMT
On BBC 2 now.......fascinating and get quite sad at the same time Yes. Very sad. We seem unable to protect and save the indigenous cultures in this country. I doubt this could have been made a few years ago for the fear of being labelled racist. BTW - was that footage of West Ham's game when we played there? |
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Post by NassauDave on May 25, 2016 3:48:25 GMT
Very interesting and true. Mind you, I would bale out of that shit hole too.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 4:02:08 GMT
There was an old soldier (pearly King stuff) in the studio on radio 2 a while back and Chris Evans asked how long he's lived in the east end
He honestly said all his life and bless him .....but, the east end has gone now Chris, all the old characters and pearly kings and queens have all but gone......it's totally packed out with immigrants now, you wouldn't recognise the place......with that the BBC and Chris Evans, in all their wisdom cut him off and spent 5 minutes apologising for his remarks
The BBC don't like people coming out with honest truth
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 4:55:04 GMT
I absolutely never believe the official figures, and yes 2nd and 3rd generation are not immigrants, but by virtue of the fact that non whites have more kids than whites, millions are still coming in, and loads of whites are leaving, I wonder when whites will no longer be the majority, 2030 my guess....
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Post by crapslinger on May 25, 2016 6:04:51 GMT
I absolutely never believe the official figures, and yes 2nd and 3rd generation are not immigrants, but by virtue of the fact that non whites have more kids than whites, millions are still coming in, and loads of whites are leaving, I wonder when whites will no longer be the majority, 2030 my guess.... We are fast losing our country, I said this a while ago on this board and was hounded by the left wing apologists they know who they are, ALF better get himself a bigger flat to accommodate the millions of Turks that will be arriving on our shores soon. We are a disgrace we have let these PC obsessed tree huggers destroy our own culture. |
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Post by crapslinger on May 25, 2016 6:09:06 GMT
On BBC 2 now.......fascinating and get quite sad at the same time After watching it pretty much confirmed my thoughts, this country will become a Muslim state within the next 15 years. |
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Post by Northy on May 25, 2016 6:24:23 GMT
I absolutely never believe the official figures, and yes 2nd and 3rd generation are not immigrants, but by virtue of the fact that non whites have more kids than whites, millions are still coming in, and loads of whites are leaving, I wonder when whites will no longer be the majority, 2030 my guess.... London was last year, only 48% population of British Whites in the population. |
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Post by bathstoke on May 25, 2016 7:00:22 GMT
I absolutely never believe the official figures, and yes 2nd and 3rd generation are not immigrants, but by virtue of the fact that non whites have more kids than whites, millions are still coming in, and loads of whites are leaving, I wonder when whites will no longer be the majority, 2030 my guess.... We are fast losing our country, I said this a while ago on this board and was hounded by the left wing apologists they know who they are, ALF better get himself a bigger flat to accommodate the millions of Turks that will be arriving on our shores soon. We are a disgrace we have let these PC obsessed tree huggers destroy our own culture. I've said it before, you are 30yrs too late with the closing the door solution, so we'll need to take a different tack |
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Post by crapslinger on May 25, 2016 7:11:42 GMT
We are fast losing our country, I said this a while ago on this board and was hounded by the left wing apologists they know who they are, ALF better get himself a bigger flat to accommodate the millions of Turks that will be arriving on our shores soon. We are a disgrace we have let these PC obsessed tree huggers destroy our own culture. I've said it before, you are 30yrs too late with the closing the door solution, so we'll need to take a different tack What would you propose ? |
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Post by bathstoke on May 25, 2016 7:29:21 GMT
I've said it before, you are 30yrs too late with the closing the door solution, so we'll need to take a different tack What would you propose ? Well obviously it's way above my pay grade, but we will need to take down some of the cultural barriers, give it some time & unpalatable as it sounds, suck it up |
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Post by Northy on May 25, 2016 8:08:51 GMT
I've said it before, you are 30yrs too late with the closing the door solution, so we'll need to take a different tack What would you propose ? A large broom? There are now about 10 muslims as mayors in our large cities/towns, take over by stealth, or integrating and getting involved? |
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Post by themistocles on May 25, 2016 8:35:31 GMT
I see Twitter is awash with silly little over-offended liberals saying how racist the program was... They just don't like the truth do they.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 25, 2016 8:54:03 GMT
I see Twitter is awash with silly little over-offended liberals saying how racist the program was... They just don't like the truth do they. As you say; Twitter reacts to The Last Whites Of the East End dailym.ai/1WS8xEF v |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on May 25, 2016 8:54:53 GMT
The Turks will not wash over the UK at all..... It is more likely that Germany will be awash with them, after all there is a large Turkish minority there already, much like the continental Sub-Indian make up that the UK has. This is why Germans are now starting to take a stand now. The clamour about the far-right almost taking power in Austria will only be seen again in Germany; especially as there has always been a large number in the old "East Germany". Merkel, I like her.... but she has made a rod for her own back and the German people are losing patience.
When you see small towns like my grandfathers changing so quickly over the last 10 years with a genuine fear (although he won't admit it) of losing it's identity (every time i go home it has changed) then no wonder there is a growing concern. Whilst i see the effects in larger towns and cities in the UK, in Germany even villages are being changed so quickly it is frightening and sad at the same time.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 25, 2016 9:02:57 GMT
Well obviously it's way above my pay grade, but we will need to take down some of the cultural barriers, give it some time & unpalatable as it sounds, suck it up I think that you are right Bath but I do think that there is room for our leaders to attempt to define British ( or should that English/Scottish etc?) culture,promote it and take some measures to encourage assimilation. My fear is that if we don't it may eventually be decided by violence on the streets |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 25, 2016 9:23:13 GMT
I've not watched the documentary so can't comment on the content, but the title certainly seems misleading. According to the 2011 census (on Wikipedia) the most common race is White British with 16.7%, and the ethnicities with the term 'White' in equal about 25%-30%.
While the census shows it's clearly a very, very multicultural area where the percentage of white people is far lower than the national average, it's hardly a case of 'Will the last white person out please turn off the light?'.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 9:32:13 GMT
The Turks will not wash over the UK at all..... It is more likely that Germany will be awash with them, after all there is a large Turkish minority there already, much like the continental Sub-Indian make up that the UK has. This is why Germans are now starting to take a stand now. The clamour about the far-right almost taking power in Austria will only be seen again in Germany; especially as there has always been a large number in the old "East Germany". Merkel, I like her.... but she has made a rod for her own back and the German people are losing patience. When you see small towns like my grandfathers changing so quickly over the last 10 years with a genuine fear (although he won't admit it) of losing it's identity (every time i go home it has changed) then no wonder there is a growing concern. Whilst i see the effects in larger towns and cities in the UK, in Germany even villages are being changed so quickly it is frightening and sad at the same time. Once they settle in ANY EU country, it's only a matter of time before they get that EU passport that gives them free reign to go anywhere |
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Post by ukcstokie on May 25, 2016 9:35:19 GMT
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Post by Skankmonkey on May 25, 2016 9:43:08 GMT
I absolutely never believe the official figures, and yes 2nd and 3rd generation are not immigrants, but by virtue of the fact that non whites have more kids than whites, millions are still coming in, and loads of whites are leaving, I wonder when whites will no longer be the majority, 2030 my guess.... We are fast losing our country, I said this a while ago on this board and was hounded by the left wing apologists they know who they are, ALF better get himself a bigger flat to accommodate the millions of Turks that will be arriving on our shores soon. We are a disgrace we have let these PC obsessed tree huggers destroy our own culture. How are the plans for camps coming on? Your Struggle is going to be whether Garners will be able to supply enough barbed wire and fence posts isn't it?
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on May 25, 2016 9:51:49 GMT
The Turks will not wash over the UK at all..... It is more likely that Germany will be awash with them, after all there is a large Turkish minority there already, much like the continental Sub-Indian make up that the UK has. This is why Germans are now starting to take a stand now. The clamour about the far-right almost taking power in Austria will only be seen again in Germany; especially as there has always been a large number in the old "East Germany". Merkel, I like her.... but she has made a rod for her own back and the German people are losing patience. When you see small towns like my grandfathers changing so quickly over the last 10 years with a genuine fear (although he won't admit it) of losing it's identity (every time i go home it has changed) then no wonder there is a growing concern. Whilst i see the effects in larger towns and cities in the UK, in Germany even villages are being changed so quickly it is frightening and sad at the same time. Once they settle in ANY EU country, it's only a matter of time before they get that EU passport that gives them free reign to go anywhere I'm not denying that. But why would they go to the UK? The welfare payments in Germany are pretty substantial too, in fact some are more generous (Kindergeld compared to child benefit as an example). Did you note that a large number of protesting immigrants seen on tv during the reported Syrian crisis were mainly shouting for Germany. T'm not suggesting that a large number of turks would not travel to the UK, but I guarantee that the vast majortity would go to Germany. The populace is already there so it would be easier for them to integrate initially with culturally similar people. |
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Post by Skankmonkey on May 25, 2016 9:52:41 GMT
I can't wait for the next in the series, "Not many gingers left in Dundee" and the shock episode "Blondes in Sussex and Essex now down to 31% of population! Are blue eyes going the same way?" and then "Where are all the Picts these days?" |
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Post by metalhead on May 25, 2016 9:53:34 GMT
Didn't watch it, I'll try get round to it. Ultimately though, they, like everyone, are entitled to their opinion. |
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Post by boothenboy75 on May 25, 2016 10:12:18 GMT
I've not watched the documentary so can't comment on the content, but the title certainly seems misleading. According to the 2011 census (on Wikipedia) the most common race is White British with 16.7%, and the ethnicities with the term 'White' in equal about 25%-30%. While the census shows it's clearly a very, very multicultural area where the percentage of white people is far lower than the national average, it's hardly a case of 'Will the last white person out please turn off the light?'. I suppose the title is as usual aimed at attracting attention. The census figures you quote are of course 5 years out of date, I'd guess that the demographics have changed even further since then? Also, talking about the issue (if you think it's an issue) would be a little pointless when the last white person leaves, if it isn't pointless already. |
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Post by bathstoke on May 25, 2016 11:49:27 GMT
Well obviously it's way above my pay grade, but we will need to take down some of the cultural barriers, give it some time & unpalatable as it sounds, suck it up I think that you are right Bath but I do think that there is room for our leaders to attempt to define British ( or should that English/Scottish etc?) culture,promote it and take some measures to encourage assimilation. My fear is that if we don't it may eventually be decided by violence on the streets I know a song about that."There'll be fighting in the street. With our children at our feet..." & we know how that ends |
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Post by Skankmonkey on May 25, 2016 11:51:56 GMT
...punk rock?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 12:03:05 GMT
Once they settle in ANY EU country, it's only a matter of time before they get that EU passport that gives them free reign to go anywhere I'm not denying that. But why would they go to the UK? The welfare payments in Germany are pretty substantial too, in fact some are more generous (Kindergeld compared to child benefit as an example). Did you note that a large number of protesting immigrants seen on tv during the reported Syrian crisis were mainly shouting for Germany. T'm not suggesting that a large number of turks would not travel to the UK, but I guarantee that the vast majortity would go to Germany. The populace is already there so it would be easier for them to integrate initially with culturally similar people. Yes, I agree that Germany may well be number one on their bucket list of places to do at the moment What I'm saying is ....say for instance..... If the German economy are forced into some kind of recession for some reason, the uk would suddenly look rather tasty ....with that EU passport we can do nothing about it. The fact is being in the EU gives us no protection of numbers regardless of their first choice |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 25, 2016 12:53:11 GMT
Once they settle in ANY EU country, it's only a matter of time before they get that EU passport that gives them free reign to go anywhere I'm not denying that. But why would they go to the UK? The welfare payments in Germany are pretty substantial too, in fact some are more generous (Kindergeld compared to child benefit as an example). Did you note that a large number of protesting immigrants seen on tv during the reported Syrian crisis were mainly shouting for Germany. T'm not suggesting that a large number of turks would not travel to the UK, but I guarantee that the vast majortity would go to Germany. The populace is already there so it would be easier for them to integrate initially with culturally similar people. I haven't checked but isn't it true that (without immigration) the German population has declined for about 10 years and this may be behind Merkel's encouragement of immigration. Doesn't Germany "need" some immigrants to supplement the workforce which may not be ge case for the UK? |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 25, 2016 13:01:10 GMT
I'm not denying that. But why would they go to the UK? The welfare payments in Germany are pretty substantial too, in fact some are more generous (Kindergeld compared to child benefit as an example). Did you note that a large number of protesting immigrants seen on tv during the reported Syrian crisis were mainly shouting for Germany. T'm not suggesting that a large number of turks would not travel to the UK, but I guarantee that the vast majortity would go to Germany. The populace is already there so it would be easier for them to integrate initially with culturally similar people. Yes, I agree that Germany may well be number one on their bucket list of places to do at the moment What I'm saying is ....say for instance..... If the German economy are forced into some kind of recession for some reason, the uk would suddenly look rather tasty ....with that EU passport we can do nothing about it. The fact is being in the EU gives us no protection of numbers regardless of their first choice By the same token, if Britain goes into recession doesn't that mean more immigrants leaving the UK? So is a recession a good thing, for those wanting less immigrants. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 13:08:21 GMT
Yes, I agree that Germany may well be number one on their bucket list of places to do at the moment What I'm saying is ....say for instance..... If the German economy are forced into some kind of recession for some reason, the uk would suddenly look rather tasty ....with that EU passport we can do nothing about it. The fact is being in the EU gives us no protection of numbers regardless of their first choice By the same token, if Britain goes into recession doesn't that mean more immigrants leaving the UK? So is a recession a good thing, for those wanting less immigrants. That's not what I'm saying is it I'm saying it makes no difference which country they first decide to set up their camp bed...once the passport is given they're free to cross any European boarders regardless of reasons and the main point .....nothing can stop it only a vote out |
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