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Post by GrahamHyde on May 23, 2016 16:54:50 GMT
So the Premier League is going to have a lot of big name 'world class' managers next season.
...and broadly speaking, it is impossible for them to all be a success.
Which ones do you think will falter, and which will prosper? Or will Ranieri embarrass them all for a second season running?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 23, 2016 16:55:56 GMT
Why is wenger on that list?
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 23, 2016 16:57:52 GMT
I can see Liverpool doing very well next season.
Mourinho will have Man U back in the hunt.
Guardiola will be an interesting one - never dealt with a league so intense and with so many fixtures.
I can see Conte being a disaster. Not sure he'll translate well outside of Italy.
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Post by agingerstokie on May 23, 2016 17:00:28 GMT
I think Guardiola has a massive job on his hands, that City squad needs rebuilding quite extensively it's still a fantastic squad but the motivation and application of ability has dwindled extensively in the past few years and it doesn't help that a lot of the squad is quite high in terms of average age, with teams like Tottenham having a lot more youth and energy in the side.
I do really like that Iheanacho though. Hope he does well, seems like a good player.
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 23, 2016 17:03:56 GMT
I can see Liverpool doing very well next season. Mourinho will have Man U back in the hunt. Guardiola will be an interesting one - never dealt with a league so intense and with so many fixtures. I can see Conte being a disaster. Not sure he'll translate well outside of Italy. Do you think Conte will do a Bilic?  Merely jesting of course. Leicester will surely be in the fold if they can keep hold of most of their big players. Big if, I know... |
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Post by march4 on May 23, 2016 17:03:57 GMT
So the Premier League is going to have a lot of big name 'world class' managers next season. ...and broadly speaking, it is impossible for them to all be a success. Which ones do you think will falter, and which will prosper? Or will Ranieri embarrass them all for a second season running? And none of them wear a baseball cap, |
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Post by supersimonstainrod on May 23, 2016 17:06:21 GMT
I think the Gaurdiola-Mourinho dynamic will be fascinating in particular next season.Jose managed to rattle Pep during the relatively brief time they were rivals in La Liga. The mind games should be intriguing if both teams start well.
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Post by warringtonstokie on May 23, 2016 17:06:42 GMT
Missing Pochettino off that list
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Post by geoff321 on May 23, 2016 17:06:43 GMT
Every PL Club would have Guardiola as manager if they could, the fact that he has chosen City should tell us where he thinks the balance of power lies in England.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 23, 2016 17:08:11 GMT
Every PL Club would have Guardiola as manager if they could, the fact that he has chosen City should tell us where he thinks the balance of power lies in England. If he was offered Man Utd he'd have gone there. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 17:12:43 GMT
I can see Liverpool doing very well next season. Mourinho will have Man U back in the hunt. Guardiola will be an interesting one - never dealt with a league so intense and with so many fixtures. I can see Conte being a disaster. Not sure he'll translate well outside of Italy. Same amount of fixtures as La Liga. |
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Post by geoff321 on May 23, 2016 17:12:48 GMT
I think they spoke to him rob, City may not have the history but they certainly have the wealth. He has already managed two of the biggest clubs in the World, he's not going to choose second best in the PL, why would he?
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 23, 2016 17:14:37 GMT
I think they spoke to him rob, City may not have the history but they certainly have the wealth. He has already managed two of the biggest clubs in the World, he's not going to choose second best in the PL, why would he? Because that was the choice. Man Utd dithered over what to do about LVG, like they've dithered over everything since Woodward became Chief Exec, and made a hash of it. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 23, 2016 17:15:04 GMT
I can see Liverpool doing very well next season. Mourinho will have Man U back in the hunt. Guardiola will be an interesting one - never dealt with a league so intense and with so many fixtures. I can see Conte being a disaster. Not sure he'll translate well outside of Italy. Same amount of fixtures as La Liga. Do they have two cup competitions in Spain? |
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Post by trentvale68 on May 23, 2016 17:21:50 GMT
So the Premier League is going to have a lot of big name 'world class' managers next season. ...and broadly speaking, it is impossible for them to all be a success. Which ones do you think will falter, and which will prosper? Or will Ranieri embarrass them all for a second season running? About as much chance as Crewe & Vale winning both domestic cups next season
The balance of power will be firmly back with the Big players again
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Post by JoeinOz on May 23, 2016 17:26:05 GMT
Mourinho will do well if he focuses on football instead of picking figghts with everyone.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 23, 2016 17:38:41 GMT
There's work to be done for Guardiola but they do have some absolutely top drawer players in key positions (Aguero, Hart, De Bruyne, Silva, Yaya if he can fit him into his system, arguably Zabaletta). Quite a lot of mediocre ones in other positions though and it is definitely a bigger project than he had at Bayern where he was taking over a treble winning side and Barca where although they hadn't won the league for a couple of years still had a ridiculous squad.
The papers' obsession with 'Pep vs Mou' will be nauseating long before the season even begins.
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Post by trentvale68 on May 23, 2016 17:39:40 GMT
Mourinho will do well if he focuses on football instead of picking figghts with everyone. Wonder if any Chelsea players will be on his radar - and would they work under him again?? |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 17:43:37 GMT
I'm a big fan of Pochettino. Spurs playing with the spine of England's next generation.
I don't fancy Conte to do well, Mourinho will have Utd solid, I think Liverpool will do well next year under Klopp without Europe to hassle them. Hope Guardiola struggles, and I think he might.
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Post by geoff321 on May 23, 2016 17:44:47 GMT
For a message board that's had three years of Pulis vs Hughes, sure we can put up with a bit of Pep vs Mou banksy.
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 23, 2016 18:03:36 GMT
It'll be interesting to watch how the journalists vye with each other week in week out constantly making personality comparisons whilst at the same time ignoring the fact it's the game of football they're supposed to be reporting on. Each one of them having banner headlines shoved under their respective noses each morning over weety bangs.
Each selection and strange substitution analysed to within a micron of its life.
One of them will crack eventually.
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Post by skip on May 23, 2016 18:11:18 GMT
It's going to be a right old pantomime ain't it. All the media noshing off the spectacle of the Very Famous Managers, soundbites and histrionics in full effect. If Man Utd are out of the top four at Christmas I anticipate a Mourino breakdown in relations. Wenger to hang on for yet another underwhelming season for Arsenal.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 18:33:22 GMT
If Mourinho isn't instantly successful, then he won't last long in the job, given that his style is not pretty, ground out plenty of 1-0 and parked busses. Won't be popular without a trophy or two?
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Post by geoff321 on May 23, 2016 18:44:03 GMT
If I was a Man.U fan what I would find boring is winning one trophy in three years, Mourinho has won 21 trophies with four clubs, appointing him is a no brainer.
Those saying he doesn't promote young players or produces boring football need to produce some hard facts in my opinion.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 23, 2016 18:53:06 GMT
If I was a Man.U fan what I would find boring is winning one trophy in three years, Mourinho has won 21 trophies with four clubs, appointing him is a no brainer. Those saying he doesn't promote young players or produces boring football need to produce some hard facts in my opinion. Geoff, the 'hard facts' can be gleaned by looking at his record. He's notorious for neglecting youth, those he's brought on are few and far between. Who is there? Varane at Real Madrid. How many did he bring through at Chelsea or his other clubs? |
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Post by geoff321 on May 23, 2016 18:59:27 GMT
His job rob is to pick the best players irrespective of age, but if you can quote actual names of young players who should have been selected and weren't then fair enough.
While you're doing that perhaps you could also show us that JM's teams generaly don't score many goals.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 23, 2016 18:59:41 GMT
If I was a Man.U fan what I would find boring is winning one trophy in three years, Mourinho has won 21 trophies with four clubs, appointing him is a no brainer. Those saying he doesn't promote young players or produces boring football need to produce some hard facts in my opinion. Geoff, the 'hard facts' can be gleaned by looking at his record. He's notorious for neglecting youth, those he's brought on are few and far between. Who is there? Varane at Real Madrid. How many did he bring through at Chelsea or his other clubs? Can you argue that he's mostly been at clubs that that are more known for buying in players for big money rather than nurturing youth? |
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 23, 2016 19:16:42 GMT
His job rob is to pick the best players irrespective of age, but if you can quote actual names of young players who should have been selected and weren't then fair enough. While you're doing that perhaps you could also show us that JM's teams generaly don't score many goals. The criticism of him hasn't been that his team don't score many goals Geoff. It's that they're dull and strangle the life out of games, particularly the big ones, and that he sometimes stifles his creative players by giving them boatloads of defensive duties. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 23, 2016 19:20:09 GMT
His job rob is to pick the best players irrespective of age, but if you can quote actual names of young players who should have been selected and weren't then fair enough. While you're doing that perhaps you could also show us that JM's teams generaly don't score many goals. How about Lukaku and De Bruyne, for starters? |
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 23, 2016 19:27:16 GMT
Geoff, the 'hard facts' can be gleaned by looking at his record. He's notorious for neglecting youth, those he's brought on are few and far between. Who is there? Varane at Real Madrid. How many did he bring through at Chelsea or his other clubs? Can you argue that he's mostly been at clubs that that are more known for buying in players for big money rather than nurturing youth? Think Chelsea and Real have both had a fair few successes on that front haven't they? |
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