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Post by juiceandbits on May 16, 2016 18:56:56 GMT
His performance at Swansea away was incredible - and totally unexpected - and was arguably during the result that kick-started our season. His cameo at Spurs away was also significant.
I agree with others that his impact at home has been negligible. I think that he's a younger, more mobile version of Crouch and that reflects his standing in the squad.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 19:09:48 GMT
Technically really good but I just worry that he isn't robust or strong enough for someone of his size.
He gets eased off the ball far too easy and seems to be on his heels quite a lot.
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Post by wearepremierleague on May 16, 2016 19:40:19 GMT
I think he's a great player.
It's not fair to judge any striker based on this season as Hughes has messed them all about with nobody getting a proper run of games. Joselu was scoring and playing well before dropped for no apparent reason.
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Post by Gunslinger on May 16, 2016 19:41:00 GMT
I'll give him the benefit of doubt. I hope this season was a learning-season to him, and that a good pre-season will make him make himn progress a step or two. I think he has the ability to become a good player, let's just see if he grabs the opportunity.
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Post by nott1 on May 16, 2016 19:42:46 GMT
He's gone backwards due to a lack of playing time!
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Post by spiderpuss on May 16, 2016 19:55:35 GMT
Looks to be OK, but really only OK and not going to get us a hat-ful. I'm sure a good pre-season will help, but you get the nagging feeling he's yet another moderate striker.
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Post by mart57 on May 16, 2016 22:52:42 GMT
Soft as a bag of knackers.
He needs to grow a pair if he's going to succeed in England.
Why is he so shite at home yet does well in away games?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 17, 2016 7:23:45 GMT
Looks like he'd be ok in a european league but no where near quick or physical enough for the premier league.
Arnie, Shaqiri, Affelay and Bojan all recognised they needed to change their game and made the effort to adapt. I've just not seen that from Jolselu.
He and the club need to have a conversation about whether he's willing to adapt his game to the realities of the premier league. I don't think its a physical issue (he's big enough and technically pretty good) - its whether he wants to. If not - shake hands and say good bye sooner rather than later.
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Post by alster on May 17, 2016 8:59:41 GMT
Looks like he'd be ok in a european league but no where near quick or physical enough for the premier league. Arnie, Shaqiri, Affelay and Bojan all recognised they needed to change their game and made the effort to adapt. I've just not seen that from Jolselu. He and the club need to have a conversation about whether he's willing to adapt his game to the realities of the premier league. I don't think its a physical issue (he's big enough and technically pretty good) - its whether he wants to. If not - shake hands and say good bye sooner rather than later. Agree he seems to have the tools but not the aggression or the instincts of a striker. It would take him getting a lot braver and more physical and also a complete education in playing as a lone striker as he doesn't seem to have a clue how to play the position. I'd certainly give him another season to try to develop him he's capable of winning lots of headers and that would multiply if he grew a pair, good touch for a big lad but again he's a bit of a pussy and gets brushed off far too easily. Then there's his seemingly incurable wandering, never seems to work the centre halves hard enough whether that's because he doesn't have the stomach for the battle or because he thinks we're some sort of total football side who knows. I hear people crying limited opportunity, Hughes has given him more chances than I would without any real change in the issues above. |
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Post by thestatusquo on May 17, 2016 13:46:50 GMT
He doesn't want to get stuck in and you have to in this league. He has the technical ability but that has to be combined with aggression over here.
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Post by metalhead on May 17, 2016 13:49:14 GMT
Utterly hung out to dry this season. Other players have been given more than enough chances, while he's been dropped at almost EVERY opportunity. I think MH's man management of Joselu has been poor this season. Perhaps Hughes isn't as comfortable handling some of the mega stars that we now have. Joselu has deserved better this year, but I see a very good player in him.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 17, 2016 14:06:48 GMT
Utterly hung out to dry this season. Other players have been given more than enough chances, while he's been dropped at almost EVERY opportunity. I think MH's man management of Joselu has been poor this season. Perhaps Hughes isn't as comfortable handling some of the mega stars that we now have. Joselu has deserved better this year, but I see a very good player in him. I was one of those saying that he'd come good, given time. Now I am not so sure. You are right regarding his lack of playing time, though. I can't figure Hughes out at the moment in regards to strikers. |
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Post by metalhead on May 17, 2016 14:08:29 GMT
Utterly hung out to dry this season. Other players have been given more than enough chances, while he's been dropped at almost EVERY opportunity. I think MH's man management of Joselu has been poor this season. Perhaps Hughes isn't as comfortable handling some of the mega stars that we now have. Joselu has deserved better this year, but I see a very good player in him. I was one of those saying that he'd come good, given time. Now I am not so sure. You are right regarding his lack of playing time, though. I can't figure Hughes out at the moment in regards to strikers. He needs time. He's used to a different style of football and that means he's found it tough this season. The guy is a quality player imo. The goal against Everton should reassure everyone just how good this guy can be. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 17, 2016 14:17:49 GMT
I was one of those saying that he'd come good, given time. Now I am not so sure. You are right regarding his lack of playing time, though. I can't figure Hughes out at the moment in regards to strikers. He needs time. He's used to a different style of football and that means he's found it tough this season. The guy is a quality player imo. The goal against Everton should reassure everyone just how good this guy can be. I think I commented at the time of that goal, that he was our best finisher. Do you think he'd be better in a front 2(not that it's going to happen)? |
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Post by metalhead on May 17, 2016 14:20:35 GMT
He needs time. He's used to a different style of football and that means he's found it tough this season. The guy is a quality player imo. The goal against Everton should reassure everyone just how good this guy can be. I think I commented at the time of that goal, that he was our best finisher. Do you think he'd be better in a front 2(not that it's going to happen)? Yes, absolutely, but like you say, not going to happen. |
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Post by superheroantonius on May 17, 2016 15:19:31 GMT
He doesn't want to get stuck in and you have to in this league. He has the technical ability but that has to be combined with aggression over here. The header from the corner Diouf powered just under the bar v west ham, was just as hard as the one he bulleted just the wrong side side of the post away at man city. But Joselu seems to not bother with the trying to head the corner kick into the net thing ... he lets others go for the ball ... and hangs around to see if it drops nicely for him ... why ? he's not bojan or shaq ..why doesn't he go for it himself ? |
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Post by Miles Offside on May 17, 2016 16:10:20 GMT
Seems to me to lack physical and mental strength.
Improve on both or go, I'd say.
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Post by Cast no shadow on May 17, 2016 16:22:56 GMT
Hughes doesnt know his best striking options and this as affected all the attacking players. As a striker confidence is key and you arent going get that with an inconsistency of playing and not playing.
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Post by foxysgloves on May 17, 2016 16:26:22 GMT
Temperamental.
And that's being kind.
Hopefully he's settled in now and we'll see him fulfil his potential next season.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 17, 2016 17:48:56 GMT
Temperamental. And that's being kind. Hopefully he's settled in now and we'll see him fulfil his potential next season. Disagree. Arnie is temperamental - his challenge was to rein himself in and channel his temperament into something positive which he's done really well. That temperament comes out in controlled aggression which is what you need to be successful in the premiership. Joselu comes across as too docile - he wants things on a plate rather than make it happen. He could do with a being a bit more temperamental. I'd like to see him come good - but I'm really not convinced he has the attitude to succeed in the premiership. And for that I really can understand why Hughes (who knows a few things about the value of controlled aggression in a striker) hasn't given him many opportunities. He reminds me a bit of Giroud - who finds himself in and out of an uber tippy tappy Arsenal side. |
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Post by skip on Aug 15, 2017 17:46:48 GMT
What did Newcastle see in him that Hughes doesn't?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 15, 2017 17:50:12 GMT
What did Newcastle see in him that Hughes doesn't? Can only think his main selling point with Rafa was his price in the austerity Ashley regime. Must be, if not Plan Z, pretty much E or F. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 17:51:59 GMT
I wish he was staying.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 15, 2017 18:08:12 GMT
We have at least 4 central strikers, Diouf, Crouch, Berahino and Bojan, plus Joselu, two probably have to go, maybe 3 out if another striker comes in. Diouf and Crouch more effective in their own ways than joselu and Berahino clearly here to stay. So Joselu and Bojan closest to door and maybe Crouch if we get a new CF
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