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Post by samba :) on May 1, 2016 23:01:45 GMT
We desperately need a striker, but I sense diouf is one the way back to what he was before the tragic accident, it must be hard for him  However every time he's on the pitch (up top) and the ball gets whipped in (except for corners) you have the excitement of knowing he usually reaches it and a chance is coming our way |
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Post by samba :) on May 1, 2016 23:02:30 GMT
On not one
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Post by StokieNath on May 1, 2016 23:03:14 GMT
He's about as much use as a chocolate fire guard in terms of scoring goals at the moment and that's being kind!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 1, 2016 23:05:27 GMT
Criminally used in his time here.
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Post by samba :) on May 1, 2016 23:08:20 GMT
He's about as much use as a chocolate fire guard in terms of scoring goals at the moment and that's being kind! you can't deny however that his positioning in the box is mega |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 23:21:30 GMT
Going to be a useful squad player for ages, brilliant attitude and athletically an absolute fucking monster.
Not quite got the quality that we should be striving for in the first team though in my opinion.
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Post by ursem on May 1, 2016 23:31:50 GMT
why not try him as an out and out old fashioned centre forward, he has got pace, power, and good in the air
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Post by switch on May 1, 2016 23:59:05 GMT
diouf got 12 league goals last year when he was played as the cental striker. He would reach around that mark again if we played him as the central striker, especially with an in form Arnie/Shaqiri/Bojan/Imbula supplying him. On the wing, or emergency right back for that matter, he's much less of a goalscoring threat but that's not his fault. Poor management
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Post by chrisparker on May 2, 2016 0:01:16 GMT
why not try him as an out and out old fashioned centre forward, he has got pace, power, and good in the air Pace & power are no good when you can't pass with either foot & can't hold the ball with your feet for 10 seconds. Diouf needs a minimum of 4 clear cut chances to score a goal. Give our chance creation ratios we need a far more reliable goalscorer. |
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Post by chrisparker on May 2, 2016 0:04:20 GMT
Let's be honest the bloke's on 65k every week & he's imply not good enough. If someone came in with an offer of around 5-7 million, I'd let him go & bring in a younger, more agile & more clinical striker. It'll be win for both parties because Diouf isn't getting much game time anyways & we need to bring in a top goal scorer next season regardless.
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Post by kustokie on May 2, 2016 0:15:52 GMT
Hughes needs to commit to someone at the CF and stick with him for 10-12 games to get some consistency, be it Joselu, Diouf or Walters. If he decides none of those are up to the job, we should go and get someone better. I wouldn't get rid of anyone, except Crouch, until we have signed someone first.
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Post by PotterLog on May 2, 2016 2:04:54 GMT
We aren't going to get a more reliable or prolific striker than Diouf when played consistently up front.
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Post by chrisparker on May 2, 2016 2:16:05 GMT
We aren't going to get a more reliable or prolific striker than Diouf when played consistently up front. Well in that case we really are screwed aren't we? |
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 2, 2016 4:59:43 GMT
Obviously an out and out goalscoring machine is on the shopping list this summer. Does is follow that someone who is prolific elsewhere will automatically slot in the setup here.
Attributes list for the role although bloody obvious, pace, a brain etc..will be a tricky hunt.
If it can be done using Diouf who is already familiar with the team, great. Have the courage to just say to him, you're a forward, play there, stay there let us worry about right back.
Save a few quid into the bargain.
Alternatively, blow the budget and pick proven talent.
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Post by clarkeda on May 2, 2016 6:08:15 GMT
He's our best option, however getting harder to defend him. He does miss some sitters but he's been in and out of the team all year
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 2, 2016 6:22:22 GMT
He's our best option, however getting harder to defend him. He does miss some sitters but he's been in and out of the team all year
Absolutely right, but therein lies the dilemma. We want the guy to net us a hat full but he can't do it from right back or keeping the bench warm. Gut instinct says stick with him and hope his own personal rollercoaster will come to an end, but how do you tell. Difficult.
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Post by clarkeda on May 2, 2016 6:26:32 GMT
He's our best option, however getting harder to defend him. He does miss some sitters but he's been in and out of the team all year
Absolutely right, but therein lies the dilemma. We want the guy to net us a hat full but he can't do it from right back or keeping the bench warm. Gut instinct says stick with him and hope his own personal rollercoaster will come to an end, but how do you tell. Difficult.
I'd have said to him you have 10 games before season finishes prove to me that I don't need to buy a striker. And give him a run of games up front. If we played him like Leicester play Vardy he'd get 15 a season easily. |
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Post by roostershair on May 2, 2016 6:44:42 GMT
Mame has not been used to his full potential. As someone said earlier, Give him a run in the side playing down the middle.
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Post by hoofmagic on May 2, 2016 6:55:59 GMT
according to the sunday mirror sport he's off in the the summer, to be replaced by moanes dabour from graasshoppers zurich,the 23 year old has scores 18 goals for the swiss side this season
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Post by nonameface on May 2, 2016 7:26:44 GMT
Easily good enough to be our number one striker. He is quick, makes good runs, has as good a shot as anyone else without spending big and is great in the air. He does lack the finesse, but his energy more than makes up for it.
Our biggest problem at the moment is the speed we move it from back to front, it means that not one striker would have the space to run into and then the only option would be to cross it, but we dont, instead passing it around to someone else who won't shoot. At the start of the season we moved it quicker and throughout we've got slower and now we are crazily slow which has been made worse by Imbula (who could turn out to be great).
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Post by fca47 on May 2, 2016 7:39:44 GMT
Hughes has messed around with the forwards way too much, hasn't really given anyone a prolonged run. Diouf has shown he can score, but has to the played up front, but our build up play is so slow it doesn't really suit him. If we can get a decent amount for him, I would let him go. Hughes obviously doesn't rate him, otr any of them for that matter.
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 2, 2016 8:23:00 GMT
Absolutely  right, but therein lies the dilemma. We want the guy to net us a hat full but he can't do it from right back or keeping the bench warm. Gut instinct says stick with him and hope his own personal rollercoaster will come to an end, but how do you tell. Difficult.
I'd have said to him you have 10 games before season finishes prove to me that I don't need to buy a striker. And give him a run of games up front. If we played him like Leicester play Vardy he'd get 15 a season easily. Leap of faith isn't it. I agree, give him an extended run and focus on using him. As has been mentioned, moving the ball at pace would be the key. It would be a pity to see an underused asset slip through our fingers. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 8:33:07 GMT
When central striker yes...with walters
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 8:36:26 GMT
Not when our manager keeps inexplicably playing him as a right sided defensive midfielder he can't.
Hughes obviously doesn't rate him, which given the strikers on our books is baffling in the extreme.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 8:51:06 GMT
Let's be honest the bloke's on 65k every week & he's imply not good enough. If someone came in with an offer of around 5-7 million, I'd let him go & bring in a younger, more agile & more clinical striker. It'll be win for both parties because Diouf isn't getting much game time anyways & we need to bring in a top goal scorer next season regardless. How the hell do you work that one out? He proved last season that playing in his CORRECT position he's plenty good enough. He's had a terrible time personally but he's been criminally under used. We look so much better with him up front stretching the play and his work rate is first class. He's our best stiker IMO. Yeah perhaps he does miss chances and he isn't the most graceful of players but give me him over fancy dans such as Joselu any day of the week. |
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Post by clarkeda on May 2, 2016 8:52:12 GMT
Not when our manager keeps inexplicably playing him as a right sided defensive midfielder he can't. Hughes obviously doesn't rate him, which given the strikers on our books is baffling in the extreme. I can't help but feel Hughes thought he could coach the technical side of the game to him, which on the surface has failed and he's given up on him. On paper Diouf has everything to be a leading striker in the league apart from a bit of technique. |
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Post by spitthedog on May 2, 2016 11:11:44 GMT
When was the last time he was played as a striker (for more than one consecutive game!!)
What had he supposed to do from the bench?
We have a bizarre habit of writing players off here, saying they are ineffective when they are not actually playing???
In answer to the question
No he cant, not from the bench or from a defensive right side of midfield position.
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Post by nott1 on May 2, 2016 11:42:29 GMT
He's a gonner in the summer along with Wolly.
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Post by PB1863 on May 2, 2016 11:48:36 GMT
Works his socks off but I'd say he is gonski. I agree that he has the knack /skill as has Walters , of getting in the right place at the right time but more often than not misses the opportunity.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 2, 2016 11:50:22 GMT
He's way better than Walters though.
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