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Post by j3st3r on May 2, 2016 13:30:26 GMT
If we get cover for the wings in the summer (which you'd hope is a must)..... I think Walters (great servant as he is) is the most likely to move on.
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Post by jeycov on May 2, 2016 14:18:44 GMT
If we get cover for the wings in the summer (which you'd hope is a must)..... I think Walters (great servant as he is) is the most likely to move on. We need a squad of 25 players who are able to slot into any starting 11. Let's get better players lined up before releasing some who still have plenty to offer here.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 14:31:43 GMT
What a daft post. Firstly, MH is not the kind of manager to play a player just to show him off. He is a winner and will play the team he thinks will win. I don't know how anybody can think otherwise. Secondly, why would Crouch need a shop window........is there is anybody in the footballing world who doesn't know the attributes of Peter Crouch. Its not like he's a 17 year old starting out, or we need the money??? Your second paragraph is exactly what I thought as soon as I read the thread title.
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 2, 2016 14:50:17 GMT
Quick glance at the back page of todays sentinel, "Crouch can still have city impact", suggests MH will keep faith with him on the back of Saturday. Basically saying he's still effective, but we knew that anyway. Year still on his contract, who knows?.
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Post by UsAndThem on May 2, 2016 15:04:27 GMT
What a daft post. Firstly, MH is not the kind of manager to play a player just to show him off. He is a winner and will play the team he thinks will win. I don't know how anybody can think otherwise. Secondly, why would Crouch need a shop window........is there is anybody in the footballing world who doesn't know the attributes of Peter Crouch. Its not like he's a 17 year old starting out, or we need the money??? Your second paragraph is exactly what I thought as soon as I read the thread title. Who's going to want to take a gamble on a veteran striker who has started 3 times and before Saturday looked out of favour, out of form and to outsiders looking in, past it. Giving him a run out to prove he has still got it will stir up encouragement for any interested club to feel comfortable he can do a job for them. It's not rocket science. I don't think it's daft at all, I suggested this on another thread when he started on Saturday. Furthermore, we might not need the money but has he justified his wage this season? Can we afford to keep him for another year on the bench or should we try and move him on and free up a squad place for better options?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 15:16:22 GMT
Your second paragraph is exactly what I thought as soon as I read the thread title. Who's going to want to take a gamble on a veteran striker who has started 3 times and before Saturday looked out of favour, out of form and to outsiders looking in, past it. Giving him a run out to prove he has still got it will stir up encouragement for any interested club to feel comfortable he can do a job for them. It's not rocket science. I don't think it's daft at all, I suggested this on another thread when he started on Saturday. Furthermore, we might not need the money but has he justified his wage this season? Can we afford to keep him for another year on the bench or should we try and move him on and free up a squad place for better options? If Crouch was up for sale he would have plenty of clubs after him, regardless of whether he plays the last three games of this season or not. How can clubs say he is out of form if he isn't starting for us? Everybody in football knows what Peter Crouch is capable of, his game isn't any different than its ever been and his age (at present) won't affect his chances of getting a club, whether that's in this league or one below is another question. He wouldn't be in my plans as a first team regular but if he was happy to be a bit part player next season (which I doubt) I would keep him here because we can't just pluck a squad player out of thin air who has his attributes.
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Post by loosestools on May 2, 2016 15:17:24 GMT
I wouldn't play him against Palace, they will have sussed it and he wont be effective, this has happened before.
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Post by jezzascfc on May 2, 2016 15:21:54 GMT
If Crouch wants regular game time, we will surely allow him to leave. He will be, at best, plan C for next season.
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Post by UsAndThem on May 2, 2016 15:32:29 GMT
Who's going to want to take a gamble on a veteran striker who has started 3 times and before Saturday looked out of favour, out of form and to outsiders looking in, past it. Giving him a run out to prove he has still got it will stir up encouragement for any interested club to feel comfortable he can do a job for them. It's not rocket science. I don't think it's daft at all, I suggested this on another thread when he started on Saturday. Furthermore, we might not need the money but has he justified his wage this season? Can we afford to keep him for another year on the bench or should we try and move him on and free up a squad place for better options? If Crouch was up for sale he would have plenty of clubs after him, regardless of whether he plays the last three games of this season or not. How can clubs say he is out of form if he isn't starting for us? Everybody in football knows what Peter Crouch is capable of, his game isn't any different than its ever been and his age (at present) won't affect his chances of getting a club, whether that's in this league or one below is another question. He wouldn't be in my plans as a first team regular but if he was happy to be a bit part player next season (which I doubt) I would keep him here because we can't just pluck a squad player out of thin air who has his attributes. I doubt very much there's going to be a queue of clubs looking to take him off our hands at the wages we have been paying him having not made much, if any of a contribution this season. Either way, just my opinion, you see it often at the end of the season with clubs trying to offload players. I don't believe he was picked Saturday for tactical reasons and by playing him, it gives him the opportunity to show what he can still do, not to just other clubs but to us as well. Personally, I think we should offload without a doubt, we don't play to Crouchie's attributes anymore which probably reflects the lack of action this season. My case in point was that the OP wasn't as daft as it was being made out.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 15:36:58 GMT
If Crouch was up for sale he would have plenty of clubs after him, regardless of whether he plays the last three games of this season or not. How can clubs say he is out of form if he isn't starting for us? Everybody in football knows what Peter Crouch is capable of, his game isn't any different than its ever been and his age (at present) won't affect his chances of getting a club, whether that's in this league or one below is another question. He wouldn't be in my plans as a first team regular but if he was happy to be a bit part player next season (which I doubt) I would keep him here because we can't just pluck a squad player out of thin air who has his attributes. I doubt very much there's going to be a queue of clubs looking to take him off our hands at the wages we have been paying him having not made much, if any of a contribution this season. Either way, just my opinion, you see it often at the end of the season with clubs trying to offload players. I don't believe he was picked Saturday for tactical reasons and by playing him, it gives him the opportunity to show what he can still do, not to just other clubs but to us as well. Personally, I think we should offload without a doubt, we don't play to Crouchie's attributes anymore which probably reflects the lack of action this season. My case in point was that the OP wasn't as daft as it was being made out. To be fair mate, I wasn't the poster saying that the OP was daft If Crouch wasn't picked for tactical reasons then Hughes wants fucking in my opinion. Personally I think it's just a case of Hughes trying something different to get a result after the shittest of shit runs.
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Post by j3st3r on May 3, 2016 5:28:54 GMT
If we get cover for the wings in the summer (which you'd hope is a must)..... I think Walters (great servant as he is) is the most likely to move on. We need a squad of 25 players who are able to slot into any starting 11. Let's get better players lined up before releasing some who still have plenty to offer here. Dont think I suggested releasing anyone until we have cover..
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 3, 2016 6:13:33 GMT
If Joselu was more physical then he'd be the perfect Crouch replacement and he's more mobile. Sadly both him and Diouf have some attributes of our perfect forward but have large flaws.
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Post by roostershair on May 3, 2016 7:43:29 GMT
If Joselu was more physical then he'd be the perfect Crouch replacement and he's more mobile. Sadly both him and Diouf have some attributes of our perfect forward but have large flaws. We could clone them
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Post by superheroantonius on May 3, 2016 11:43:18 GMT
If Joselu was more physical then he'd be the perfect Crouch replacement and he's more mobile. Sadly both him and Diouf have some attributes of our perfect forward but have large flaws. Joselu needs to start doing the first thing Crouchy did ...and start getting into the box and getting on the end of things .
Then he needs to start doing the second thing Crouchy did and start boosting his effectiveness with a bit of gamesmanship and good old fashioned cheating.
Finally he needs to take a leaf out of Crouchy's book and not enjoy, but just accept, these tactics will result in him getting a painful whack sooner or later and just get on with it .
Agreed ...if he actually did these things ..he would be a decent player
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 12:46:55 GMT
We can't sell Crouch yet, unbelievably Hughes obviously still doesn't feel that he has a suitable replacement.
He doesn't seem to trust Joselu who I would play. Wins almost every header and holds the ball up well, just doesn't score enough goals.
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Post by superheroantonius on May 3, 2016 13:00:12 GMT
The problem with Joselu is where he wins the ball
He's winning it 20 yards from goal , or veering off towards the right wing ...which is where the opposition want him to play.
He needs to just get in the box and either get an attempt on goal in or lay it off to arnie or shaq when they are running into the box.
He needs to just get in the box and make it happen and accept sooner or later, sadly , as with crouchy , hes going to get an elbow or have his teeth knocked out or get caught up in something painful that goes with the territory .
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