|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 24, 2016 21:01:52 GMT
Bit of a horror show really, the first 3 especially.
I've read that Whelan was to blame for the opener. Not for me. Cameron totally loses his man whilst joselu is standing watching instead of attacking the ball. He even turned his back.
What the hell Shawcross was thinking for the penalty god only knows. Shocking defending.
Good old muniesa did a disappearing act for the third with wolschied hardly covering himself in glory either. Even shawcross had another brain freeze retreating to the goal line instead of marking his man.
I knew the defending was bad. It doesn't get any better when you see it on tv does it?
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 21:03:36 GMT
The whole team aren't doing it Dave and the whole lot is falling down like a deck of cards. There are individual errors in there but the biggest problem is the overall unit isn't compact or tight enough out of possession.
|
|
|
|
Post by robboleek on Apr 24, 2016 21:04:02 GMT
Proper horror show
|
|
|
|
Post by harryburrows on Apr 24, 2016 21:07:08 GMT
Not before Wednesday at the earliest
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 21:09:42 GMT
I came home for the second half and watched the Wednesday game instead, couldn't tell you the last time I could've watched Stoke but didn't before that, sad really.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 21:11:13 GMT
Bit of a horror show really, the first 3 especially. I've read that Whelan was to blame for the opener. Not for me. Cameron totally loses his man whilst joselu is standing watching instead of attacking the ball. He even turned his back. What the hell Shawcross was thinking for the penalty god only knows. Shocking defending. Good old muniesa did a disappearing act for the third with wolschied hardly covering himself in glory either. Even shawcross had another brain freeze retreating to the goal line instead of marking his man. I knew the defending was bad. It doesn't get any better when you see it on tv does it? Reeds of disorganisation, seemingly everyone is making mistakes and no one has a clue what they're doing. I think it's more to the back 5 being thrown together rather than the manager though. He knows how to set up a team defensively, proved that in our 1-0 win at the Eithad. |
|
|
|
Post by crapslinger on Apr 24, 2016 21:34:24 GMT
Bit of a horror show really, the first 3 especially. I've read that Whelan was to blame for the opener. Not for me. Cameron totally loses his man whilst joselu is standing watching instead of attacking the ball. He even turned his back. What the hell Shawcross was thinking for the penalty god only knows. Shocking defending. Good old muniesa did a disappearing act for the third with wolschied hardly covering himself in glory either. Even shawcross had another brain freeze retreating to the goal line instead of marking his man. I knew the defending was bad. It doesn't get any better when you see it on tv does it? Reeds of disorganisation, seemingly everyone is making mistakes and no one has a clue what they're doing. I think it's more to the back 5 being thrown together rather than the manager though. He knows how to set up a team defensively, proved that in our 1-0 win at the Eithad. For reeds read straws grasping at springs too mind, he knows how to set up a team defensively is that a fact  |
|
|
|
Post by nutterpotter on Apr 24, 2016 21:36:35 GMT
The whole team aren't doing it Dave and the whole lot is falling down like a deck of cards. There are individual errors in there but the biggest problem is the overall unit isn't compact or tight enough out of possession. You know shit's serious when you're not posting sarcastic replies  |
|
|
|
Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Apr 24, 2016 21:39:55 GMT
I said to friends yesterday we can't score and at the moment can't defend. It's the usual what if if we had taken the chances we had (and we had plenty) and defensively we were shite. However I want nothing more now than to send blunderland down so I expect nothing less than a 4 -0 to us on Saturday. I've got a few Sam Smiths in me as I type so everything's good at the moment  |
|
|
|
Post by retired1 on Apr 24, 2016 23:09:33 GMT
A mate described the defending as "schoolboy" but what school, not even high school standard. Slow, lumbering, an oiltanker can turn quicker than our back 4. We are extremely poor but who is stopping the opposotion from walking all over us, not the midfielders it seems.
Its a poor team effort at the moment compounded by individual errors.
Confidence is shot and its there for all to see. Sunderland will be relishing coming down next week. Newcastle and Norwich will be wishing they were playing us too on our current form. Adam said they need to get back to basics, well our defending is as basic as it gets a the moment.
Id take a 1-0 win over sunderland following a collection of richochets off a defenders arse, preferably from a corner.
|
|
|
|
Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 24, 2016 23:15:26 GMT
4 or 5 weeks ago I would not have said this,but I would take a draw v Sunderland right now.
|
|
|
|
Post by biglad180 on Apr 25, 2016 8:50:30 GMT
lets do our best put them fuckers down hope Newcastle go with them
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:42:33 GMT
I thought we actually started OK. We're much like my u'13s side at the moment, as soon as we concede one we go to shit and its just a free for all.
|
|
|
|
Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 25, 2016 10:01:35 GMT
For whatever reason , they are not working together as a team , when you have injuries to your best players you expect a dip in quality but not organisation and effort , they have all trained together all season so must know what is expected of them in situations its not like we have had too many not in their natural position either .
Whatever it is they need to put some effort in on the training ground this week and produce a much improved performance on Saturday
|
|
|
|
Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 25, 2016 10:08:17 GMT
I thought we actually started OK. We're much like my u'13s side at the moment, as soon as we concede one we go to shit and its just a free for all. I agree. We had a decent 10 minutes prior to conceding the first. Throughout the game there were several spells where we were the team on the front foot and the team creating the chances. We actually created half a dozen really good chances in the game from which any team would hope to score two or three times. We obviously need a complete rethink about our shambolic defending and at least 2 new strong, mobile defensive players to add steel to the side. In attack we need to replace one or two of the squad with players who are natural finishers and who have pace. Any other team outside the top six would be delighted with the chances we created against a top 4 side but gutted at the number of pretty easy chances we missed. |
|
|
|
Post by thestatusquo on Apr 25, 2016 11:03:32 GMT
I watched it until the third one went in and then went and tidied the loft which was much more enjoyable !!
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 11:20:35 GMT
Bit of a horror show really, the first 3 especially. I've read that Whelan was to blame for the opener. Not for me. Cameron totally loses his man whilst joselu is standing watching instead of attacking the ball. He even turned his back. What the hell Shawcross was thinking for the penalty god only knows. Shocking defending. Good old muniesa did a disappearing act for the third with wolschied hardly covering himself in glory either. Even shawcross had another brain freeze retreating to the goal line instead of marking his man. I knew the defending was bad. It doesn't get any better when you see it on tv does it? That's 100% how I saw it Dave  |
|
|
|
Post by bridgnorthstokie on Apr 25, 2016 12:18:22 GMT
Bit of a horror show really, the first 3 especially. I've read that Whelan was to blame for the opener. Not for me. Cameron totally loses his man whilst joselu is standing watching instead of attacking the ball. He even turned his back. What the hell Shawcross was thinking for the penalty god only knows. Shocking defending. Good old muniesa did a disappearing act for the third with wolschied hardly covering himself in glory either. Even shawcross had another brain freeze retreating to the goal line instead of marking his man. I knew the defending was bad. It doesn't get any better when you see it on tv does it? Totally agree Cameron was as he usually is close but not close enough to the man he is meant to be marking. Muni halfway up the pitch and out of position for 2 of the goals making no genuine attempt to get back. Two players who somehow seem to be fans favourites but both not good enough. It was these two who started the season as our centre half pairing until muni was replaced. Neither are good enough having catchy songs doesn't make them good enough either. |
|
|
|
Post by jezzascfc on Apr 25, 2016 13:40:19 GMT
Muniesa has no idea how to position himself as a left back and should never play for us there again (being left footed does not make him a left back!). He wanders upfield far too often and has no pace to get back. As a centre back at least he has Ryan in his ear all game. Ryan is not fit, and it is hard to watch him perform as a shadow of his real self. Wolly is as Wolly does - good on the ball, can read the game well, but has less than no pace and can get exposed and bullied by pace and/or aggression. Bards gets stuck in, but has no real quality to speak of.
Of those four, I want only one as a regular next season in our defence, and then only if he gets his back fixed so we see the player we all know he can be.
|
|
|
|
Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 25, 2016 13:54:31 GMT
Muniesa has no idea how to position himself as a left back and should never play for us there again (being left footed does not make him a left back!). He wanders upfield far too often and has no pace to get back. As a centre back at least he has Ryan in his ear all game. Ryan is not fit, and it is hard to watch him perform as a shadow of his real self. Wolly is as Wolly does - good on the ball, can read the game well, but has less than no pace and can get exposed and bullied by pace and/or aggression. Bards gets stuck in, but has no real quality to speak of. Of those four, I want only one as a regular next season in our defence, and then only if he gets his back fixed so we see the player we all know he can be. The good news is we do have Johnson and Pieters to come back. |
|
