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Post by chrisparker on Apr 23, 2016 19:55:18 GMT
in the premier league bar Man Citeh (an astounding 46 injuries throughout the season). That really is some achievement. We're just 8 behind Citeh. Might still catch them.  |
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Post by melonhead on Apr 23, 2016 22:31:05 GMT
Is it bad luck that we have so many? Is it Un fit players? Is it Wrong trading methods?
I will go with all three?
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Post by melonhead on Apr 23, 2016 22:31:37 GMT
Training methods
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 23, 2016 22:37:39 GMT
Genuinely believe not rotating the squad at Crimbo had long term effects.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 23, 2016 22:39:30 GMT
Genuinely believe not rotating the squad at Crimbo had long term effects. Well that hasn't been a hindrance to Leicester has it? Gouranga.  |
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Post by melonhead on Apr 23, 2016 22:42:37 GMT
He has been rotating strikers for ages, false 9, crouch in, crouch out, Joselu in, out , Walters in, Walters out, Walters injured, Joselu in, Joselu out, false 9 in, crouch in. Shake it all about
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 23, 2016 22:46:08 GMT
Genuinely believe not rotating the squad at Crimbo had long term effects. Well that hasn't been a hindrance to Leicester has it? Gouranga. Leicester didn't play as many cup games as we did. |
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Post by musik on Apr 23, 2016 22:49:41 GMT
True.
Too many injuries for a top table position.
They say we have depth, but we don't.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 23, 2016 22:56:16 GMT
Well that hasn't been a hindrance to Leicester has it? Gouranga. Leicester didn't play as many cup games as we did. 3 more in the Capital Cup (2 in 2106) and 1 more in the FA cup hardly amounts to an energy sapping run of fixtures does it. It just isn't an excuse. Gouranga. |
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Post by samba :) on Apr 23, 2016 22:57:30 GMT
He has been rotating strikers for ages, false 9, crouch in, crouch out, Joselu in, out , Walters in, Walters out, Walters injured, Joselu in, Joselu out, false 9 in, crouch in. Shake it all about you lose a few games and your fans want you out That's what it's all about Woahhh the okie cockey |
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 23, 2016 23:00:27 GMT
There are numerous reasons for injury:
Inadequate fitness
Poor technique, carelessness, recklessness
Poor equipment
Poor conditions, (surface)
Inadequate preparation, warming up
I don't know, but I suspect MH doesn't believe in hard training and "leaving it on the practice pitch", which could contribute to a strong finish to the season (normally). My evidence is the apparent poor performance in set pieces, which was demonstrated again today with the first goal, and IMO attributable to inadequate practice at them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 23:40:58 GMT
This is...strange? Hope he wasn't feeling anything   |
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Post by kustokie on Apr 23, 2016 23:48:57 GMT
See my post on "2500 posts mostly rubbish" for one explanation. It's coming, folks.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Apr 23, 2016 23:57:39 GMT
Said since start of season it's training how many other teams have a player out with a career threatening knee injury sustained in training!!!
They are all puffing and blowing at 60 mins
No one is quick over ten yards
Also the medical staff can't get shaq fit at all this season for more than 2-3 games
Pochettino has doubled the training at Spurs this season before and after matches look at the results
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Post by Davef on Apr 24, 2016 1:03:51 GMT
There are numerous reasons for injury: Inadequate fitness Poor technique, carelessness, recklessness Poor equipment Poor conditions, (surface) Inadequate preparation, warming up I don't know, but I suspect MH doesn't believe in hard training and "leaving it on the practice pitch", which could contribute to a strong finish to the season (normally). My evidence is the apparent poor performance in set pieces, which was demonstrated again today with the first goal, and IMO attributable to inadequate practice at them. And what about bad luck? Most of the things you've listed there have absolutely no bearing on the majority of our injuries. For example, Butland was injured on international duty in one of the best stadiums in the world and Wilson was injured at Palace. How can you apportion blame towards SCFC because of surfaces? How can you point the finger at the club for Afellay's injury? We have an unbelievable training facility with great surfaces for the players to train on. What are we supposed to do, ban running and jumping in training sessions? How many other injuries can be attributed to training methods? Charlie Adam was injured because of foul play, Walters' injury is a long term wear and tear injury and both Cameron and Johnson suffered ligament injuries on away grounds during tough games. |
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Post by Davef on Apr 24, 2016 1:04:29 GMT
Said since start of season it's training how many other teams have a player out with a career threatening knee injury sustained in training!!! They are all puffing and blowing at 60 mins No one is quick over ten yards Also the medical staff can't get shaq fit at all this season for more than 2-3 games Pochettino has doubled the training at Spurs this season before and after matches look at the results Nonsense. |
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Post by kustokie on Apr 24, 2016 2:27:49 GMT
Said since start of season it's training how many other teams have a player out with a career threatening knee injury sustained in training!!! They are all puffing and blowing at 60 mins No one is quick over ten yards Also the medical staff can't get shaq fit at all this season for more than 2-3 games Pochettino has doubled the training at Spurs this season before and after matches look at the results Nonsense. I tend to agree with malicious. Some of Stoke's players look woefully out of shape. They get a lot of soft tissue injuries (sprains, strains and tears) that can be a sign of poor conditioning and hyper-extension. Butland breaking his ankle was bad luck. The rest you have to question what the hell is going on. |
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Post by turtlefox on Apr 24, 2016 3:44:26 GMT
I find it hard to believe that it has anything to do with training methods. Just real bad luck. Top players know when the training isn't right because they haven't just played at our club. They have the experience of other clubs and the knowledge of players they know and how they train. If something wasn't right with the training, it would have been delt with by now.
A couple of bad results and people think we are amateurs.
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Post by burberrybassist on Apr 24, 2016 4:36:14 GMT
Although I agree that luck, or bad luck in our case, plays a massive factor in the majority of injuries, I'd like to think that behind the scenes we are definitely looking into what goes on at training and if there are ways to improve what we do and how we look after players.
It's not just a Stoke thing either. For example look at Arsenal, a young player only has to sign a contract with them and they'll be out for 6 weeks with a sprained wrist. If I was Coates I'd be daft not to be asking some serious questions of our back room staff!
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Post by nutterpotter on Apr 24, 2016 7:20:07 GMT
Said since start of season it's training how many other teams have a player out with a career threatening knee injury sustained in training!!! They are all puffing and blowing at 60 mins No one is quick over ten yards Also the medical staff can't get shaq fit at all this season for more than 2-3 games Pochettino has doubled the training at Spurs this season before and after matches look at the results There have been numerous cruciate injuries this season. Bourbemouth have had 3 alone. Mings, Gradel and Wilson Zouma, Ings, Gomez, Krul, Afellay and Jenkinson have had it too. There's probably more. |
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 24, 2016 7:50:36 GMT
I've been banging on that the fitness training has gone down the pan since TP left. The poor/slow starts to the seasons, the obviously overweight players on the pitch and the horrendous injury list the last 2 years all point to under-trained players IMO. It looks even worse this season than last.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 24, 2016 7:52:39 GMT
I've been banging on that the fitness training has gone down the pan since TP left. The poor/slow starts to the seasons, the obviously overweight players on the pitch and the horrendous injury list the last 2 years all point to under-trained players IMO. It looks even worse this season than last. Amazing we've managed to exceed TP's best points total every season really isn't it? The wonders of the universe... |
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Post by Davef on Apr 24, 2016 8:00:23 GMT
I've been banging on that the fitness training has gone down the pan since TP left. The poor/slow starts to the seasons, the obviously overweight players on the pitch and the horrendous injury list the last 2 years all point to under-trained players IMO. It looks even worse this season than last. You are talking about the bloke who signed Jon Parkin, Eidur Gudjohnsen and Wilson Palacios (among others) here aren't you? |
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