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Post by roostershair on Apr 23, 2016 13:40:53 GMT
I've got no idea who will be available then but one name sticks out at the moment, David Moyes.
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Post by roostershair on Apr 23, 2016 13:41:45 GMT
I've got no idea who will be available then but one name sticks out at the moment, David Moyes.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 23, 2016 13:43:05 GMT
We will lose to Sunderland, they will be fighting for their lives, we have no fight left.
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Post by Theninjabadger on Apr 23, 2016 13:44:23 GMT
The biggest signings we can make is 2 coaches. One for the defenders and one to teach us how to attack and defend set pieces. All the pieces are there for us to have a squad capable of doing great things.
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Post by captainmainwaring on Apr 23, 2016 13:44:31 GMT
I will be worried if we start next season like we have ended this one. Until then I'll keep my knickers dry unlike some of the fucking drama queens on here! H Correct. MH has got until August to sort things out.
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Post by mattface on Apr 23, 2016 13:44:40 GMT
Not massively. Big summer to build strength in depth. Losing Butland has hurt us massively as has rushing Ryan back not fully fit. There have been some great performances this season but too many shockers. Particularly at home. Let's just wrap up the season and bring on the next one. One-step back for two steps forward.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 13:44:47 GMT
MASSIVELY DISAPPOINTED - YES Worried ? no because we've got shit loads of money to put this right my shopping list starts with a new centre half (cant rely on Ryan anymore ( truth hurts) and Wolly is just plain too slow) Two quick - pacy young and aggressive fullbacks ( ours are honest enough, just cant carry the full job description required these-days) new top class goalkeeper - (to challenge Jack) new midfielded (for Glenn) and a striker to actually score some goals on a regular basis simple this team manager lark eh ?
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Post by butlerstbob on Apr 23, 2016 13:45:23 GMT
The concern is we do nothing We don't invest because we don't trust the manager and we don't Change the manger for me it's very clear . - we either give the manger £40 million for 2 wingers 2 strikers , 2 midfielders and a Centre half - we change the manager and give the new one the money m Either way some need to be moved and they may include this managers purchases . Both are a risk but to do neither is a recipe for real trouble so a few bargain buys funded by a departure can only lead a second series of regression . you spouted the same shit at the start of this season.......and we survived very very comfortably, see the pattern, maybe not! also funny how you haven't posted until things start to turn sour! NOW DO YOU SEE THE PATTERN!
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Post by wuzza on Apr 23, 2016 13:45:52 GMT
The things that worry me are the things that never seem to improve - basic defensive organisation, set pieces, speed going forward etc. We have had all season to address these issues but either we don't put the work in or the players can't do it. Either way something should be done. The last 3 games are what they are - do it again next week and that would raise some interesting questions (injuries or no injuries).
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Post by padders01 on Apr 23, 2016 13:46:14 GMT
That's £50m-£60m summer then?
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Apr 23, 2016 13:47:00 GMT
Yes... Me!!
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Post by spongebobflathead on Apr 23, 2016 13:47:48 GMT
Quote from sky sports
"For Stoke, they become the first team since Wigan in 2010 to concede four in three successive games ! "
Next seasons a big one for mh
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Post by liathroid on Apr 23, 2016 13:53:54 GMT
That's £50m-£60m summer then? cant see that happening ,even with the same team atm we would be safe
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 23, 2016 13:58:31 GMT
Ironically, the sad loss of Afellay may enable Bojan to take centre stage and pay back the faith we showed in him when giving him his new contract. I can't see Arnie staying so there will be a big hole to fill on the wing. We have had bad luck with injuries and have people playing who are palpably unfit. I'm less concerned because I can see a solution without massive rebuilding, but we're still looking at significant investment being required. More pace, a first choice striker to come in and a new centre back to partner Ryan. Butland's return will be a boost and some fresh legs in midfield will be needed. Every team will be doing something similar. Let's hope we can summon up enough for the two home games at least and secure 10th at worst. The last three games have been horrible.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Apr 23, 2016 14:07:01 GMT
Ironically, the sad loss of Afellay may enable Bojan to take centre stage and pay back the faith we showed in him when giving him his new contract. I can't see Arnie staying so there will be a big hole to fill on the wing. We have had bad luck with injuries and have people playing who are palpably unfit. I'm less concerned because I can see a solution without massive rebuilding, but we're still looking at significant investment being required. More pace, a first choice striker to come in and a new centre back to partner Ryan. Butland's return will be a boost and some fresh legs in midfield will be needed. Every team will be doing something similar. Let's hope we can summon up enough for the two home games at least and secure 10th at worst. The last three games have been horrible. A very well reasoned post jimmy and I must admit that it has made me feel a little better about our current situation. However I still feel an element of apprehension about our form, especially if it carries on for the last few games. If we don't pick up a few points between now and the end of the season, how we start next season will be massively important!!
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Post by loosestools on Apr 23, 2016 14:13:02 GMT
Ironically, the sad loss of Afellay may enable Bojan to take centre stage and pay back the faith we showed in him when giving him his new contract. I can't see Arnie staying so there will be a big hole to fill on the wing. We have had bad luck with injuries and have people playing who are palpably unfit. I'm less concerned because I can see a solution without massive rebuilding, but we're still looking at significant investment being required. More pace, a first choice striker to come in and a new centre back to partner Ryan. Butland's return will be a boost and some fresh legs in midfield will be needed. Every team will be doing something similar. Let's hope we can summon up enough for the two home games at least and secure 10th at worst. The last three games have been horrible. A very well reasoned post jimmy and I must admit that it has made me feel a little better about our current situation. However I still feel an element of apprehension about our form, especially if it carries on for the last few games. If we don't pick up a few points between now and the end of the season, how we start next season will be massively important!! But we have been starting the new seasons like the team has never played together before, so how can it be sorted during the summer?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 23, 2016 14:29:20 GMT
What concerns me the most is that confidence will be rock bottom after today. This could so easily spill over into next season if we don't break this run. Ask Villa fans and other teams that have faced a relegation battle following a poor run the previous season.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Apr 23, 2016 14:36:31 GMT
But we have been starting the new seasons like the team has never played together before, so how can it be sorted during the summer? Excellent question!! And one that I haven't got an answer to. I don't personally think that throwing a vast amount of money at the problem is the answer. We have an excellent squad that looks, to my eyes, short on motivation at the moment. A rigorous off season and a team sent out ready to fight from the word go is what is needed... Dare I say it, but not too much time off for the players. As someone has posted on another thread, they appear to have been on holiday for a few weeks already.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 23, 2016 14:40:48 GMT
We aren't seriously talking about getting rid of Hughes, are we? Fucking hell. I don't think its been proposed by more than the odd extremist. But there isn't a manager in the league that doesn't come into the spotlight after a series of results as bad as that. If this carries on to summer I think he'll be under real pressure
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 14:44:35 GMT
We aren't seriously talking about getting rid of Hughes, are we? Fucking hell. This.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Apr 23, 2016 14:45:02 GMT
We aren't seriously talking about getting rid of Hughes, are we? Fucking hell. I don't think its been proposed by more than the odd extremist. But there isn't a manager in the league that doesn't come into the spotlight after a series of results as bad as that. If this carries on to summer I think he'll be under real pressure No, I don't personally think that is the answer. However Hughes does need to give some of the players a much needed kick up the arse in the close season!
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Post by loosestools on Apr 23, 2016 14:47:07 GMT
Excellent question!! And one that I haven't got an answer to. I don't personally think that throwing a vast amount of money at the problem is the answer. We have an excellent squad that looks, to my eyes, short on motivation at the moment. A rigorous off season and a team sent out ready to fight from the word go is what is needed... Dare I say it, but not too much time off for the players. As someone has posted on another thread, they appear to have been on holiday for a weeks already. Pre season has always been a bone of contention on this site. I maintain that you should be waiting for the starting pistol to fire at the start of the season and be ready to burst out of the traps, but it has not been like that.
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Post by ayem on Apr 23, 2016 14:52:40 GMT
We have games left to play. If Hughes can get the team playing again it'll make the summer alot better. Slumping against top form teams is one thing. But I'd be disappointed if we checked out now
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Post by j3st3r on Apr 23, 2016 14:53:14 GMT
Our biggest problem is the total lack of strength in depth. Im pretty confident that with a fully fit 1st choice 11, if theyre playing well.. we can take on any team in this league.
If there is any drop in form from key players or worse yet.. some injuries we just havent got top class replacements to step in.
I think the last 3 games have been a little harsh in that weve had a depleted squad and faced arguably 3 of the best teams around. If we were playing bottom half teams.. we might have gotten away with it.. but against top teams.. our second string just arent good enough sadly...
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Post by MooG on Apr 23, 2016 15:01:15 GMT
Not massively worried, no. The injuries have knocked the stuffing out of the season and we should be able to draw a line under it and get on with preparing for next year.
As I am a pessimist though I do have a small fear that like Leicester we'll carry our end of season form over into next year with slightly less stellar results.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Apr 23, 2016 15:04:14 GMT
Pre season has always been a bone of contention on this site. I maintain that you should be waiting for the starting pistol to fire at the start of the season and be ready to burst out of the traps, but it has not been like that. We will need to be quick out of the traps next season, or it could be a long old season. We need something to shock us out of our current malaise
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 15:11:55 GMT
Just need to not give up after conceding the first. Not that bad before that.
If these 3 results were in isolation it'd be no problem, as it is they're one after the other. This is the problem, much as the 3 3-0 losses earlier in the season, we need a win to get some confidence back.
Beat Sunderland (which incidentally I don't think we will) and it'll give them a kick back up.
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Post by Championship Potter on Apr 23, 2016 15:26:52 GMT
I have faith in Hughes but worried about the number of positions we need to upgrade in the summer. Think we need at the minimum: - New RB. Johnson was solid when he was fit but at 32 not sure we can rely on him as first choice next season -Younger centre back to partner Shawcross -Whelan replacement. Will be a useful squad player but we really need a more mobile and technically able replacement -Pacey winger -Striker with pace and more consistency than Diouf and Joselu
Going to be difficult to get all of those without breaking the bank so we could be in for a long year next season.
If Arnie goes then we'd need another winger. Also think we could do with an upgrade at left back as Pieters hasn't been good enough in the second half of the season. We look horribly one paced at the moment so the priority has to be getting in younger players with pace in those positions.
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Post by kernowpaul on Apr 23, 2016 15:40:17 GMT
Time for telford or waddington to be given a chance
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Post by mrred on Apr 23, 2016 15:42:56 GMT
Past caring, which is the attitude the players seem to have.
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