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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 13:08:01 GMT
Cant see another point this season
Compared to the end of last season this is dire. Most of the team appear devoid of ideas and lots of Stokies have lost interest. Manager thinks hes done a decent job this season to finish top half. I don't. We should have kicked on but we haven't. January transfers were missed opportunity.
We need a change of plan.
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Post by boweryboy on Apr 23, 2016 13:13:34 GMT
According to Mark they are not and have something to play for....what a joke....
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Post by Davef on Apr 23, 2016 13:14:42 GMT
So you don't think eight or nine first teams either injured, suspended or patently not match fit has a bearing?
Changes do need to be made but I haven't seen many posters being prepared to cut this team any slack whatsoever, which is pretty sad considering the position we find ourselves in despite all our problems.
Some of the abuse directed at Ryan on Twitter is shameful.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Apr 23, 2016 13:17:56 GMT
You're being polite with embarrassing. Conceding goals like confetti and toothless in final third. Surgery urgently required across the board. Absolute shambles. Four goals conceded in each of last three games is a joke. And it hasn't finished yet.
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Post by wuzza on Apr 23, 2016 13:26:34 GMT
I wish they were on the proverbial beach - sadly with most of them they are trying but just haven't got what it takes against the level of opposition we have played in the last 3 games.
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Post by fca47 on Apr 23, 2016 13:27:31 GMT
The worrying thing is that one of our best players, Ryan is looking so crap.
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Post by padders01 on Apr 23, 2016 13:28:07 GMT
The worrying thing is that one of our best players, Ryan is looking so crap. I agree, Clearly not fit |
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Post by boweryboy on Apr 23, 2016 13:30:22 GMT
If it wasn't that the defending wasn't so abysmal...the passing was so abysmal and the lack of quality to put in a decent final ball,I would cut them some slack over injuries...but thought we had got a good squad ,apparently not....
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Post by armitagestokie on Apr 23, 2016 13:33:56 GMT
Needed a prolific goalscorer in Jan...didn't happen could have made top 6/7.....thank goodness we had points already....made chances today, but glaring errors......MH needs to get his arse into gear or it will be a Martinez season next
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Post by roostershair on Apr 23, 2016 13:51:36 GMT
Looking forward to Wilko's testimonial, we'll see some REAL strikers
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Post by hchpotter on Apr 23, 2016 14:00:55 GMT
So you don't think eight or nine first teams either injured, suspended or patently not match fit has a bearing? Changes do need to be made but I haven't seen many posters being prepared to cut this team any slack whatsoever, which is pretty sad considering the position we find ourselves in despite all our problems. Some of the abuse directed at Ryan on Twitter is shameful. I think this is one of the most reasonable posts on here today. The run of luck we've had with injuries this season has been horrific and we all need to take that into account. There is no way that some of the abuse that has been meted out can be justified by any true supporter. However, there are questions that need to be asked. How clever was it to bring in Given as back up? He looks like exactly what he is - a 40 year old keeper who's barely played in 4 seasons. Previously we had Simonsen, Begovic, Sorensen and Butland as back up. Massive backward step in the goalkeeping department. We had Ryan 's purple spell when he came back from injury the first time and looked better than ever. Apart from that, we've looked suspect at the back for much of the season. Letting Huth go when Ryan had a dodgy back doesn't look sensible does it? We can't play Bojan and Affelay together in the same team is a familiar refrain. That's not going to be a problem now for the next 8 months or so. How confident can we be that Bojan is going to grasp the opportunity to really establish himself as a premier league footballer? It was pointed out endlessly that we needed cover for the flanks once Moses went. So true, and now that Arnie's form has dipped after a fantastic start to the season we look completely toothless. Shaqiri has had a hand full of decent games but as the second most expensive player in our history I expected much much more. Hughes chose to bring in Diouf and Joselu. Why? His treatment of them both this season has been the strangest thing about the whole season. Both look reasonably competent but neither has been given any sort of long run in the team. Set pieces are embarrassing. As Spurs showed the other night we look more likely to concede than to score from our own corners or attacking throw ins. I'm all for a new manager bringing in his own tactics and style but it has to be wrong to completely dismantle the strengths you inherit. We have gone from one of the most efficient teams in the whole league to statistically the worst in the 92 league clubs at attacking corners. That's some turnaround. At the other end we concede set pieces for fun. I'm happy to cut the team some slack because of our run of injuries but we cannot pretend that all is well and injuries are the only cause for concern. |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 23, 2016 14:10:17 GMT
So you don't think eight or nine first teams either injured, suspended or patently not match fit has a bearing? Changes do need to be made but I haven't seen many posters being prepared to cut this team any slack whatsoever, which is pretty sad considering the position we find ourselves in despite all our problems. Some of the abuse directed at Ryan on Twitter is shameful. While I would never condone any of the players getting dogs abuse I feel that making excuses for these type of performances isn't helping anyone, we have what can arguably be our best SQUAD ever and even the players we have available are a country mile better than most of what we've been used to. The trio of 3-0 results and now the trio of conceding 4 falls IMHO directly at the managers feet. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 14:23:47 GMT
So you don't think eight or nine first teams either injured, suspended or patently not match fit has a bearing? Changes do need to be made but I haven't seen many posters being prepared to cut this team any slack whatsoever, which is pretty sad considering the position we find ourselves in despite all our problems. Some of the abuse directed at Ryan on Twitter is shameful. Do you think Ryan set the example that a captain should have today?
Would he be your captain?
There is abuse and then there is Rose Tinted Specs. 3 games in a row made to look poor in defence , do you advocate no changes? To me they lack leadership Bardsley would lead better atm he at least shows desire and when he stuffed up on the free kick it bothered him. Ryan he smiles when he gives a schoolboy pen away.
So which one would you want to lead?
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Post by hchpotter on Apr 23, 2016 14:34:48 GMT
I think the result of a straw poll on Bardsley v Ryan for Stoke City captain would be a foregone conclusion.
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Post by Northy on Apr 23, 2016 14:56:36 GMT
Looks like I went to the wrong place to see the match today !  |
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Post by wembley1972 on Apr 23, 2016 16:23:03 GMT
It's a bit of everything negative, bad luck with injuries, players coming in that are not match ready, some probably never will be! Poor performances from experienced players. No centre forward at the club that strikes fear in any other teams defence.
I can't understand how we have managed to concede 4 goals 3 games on the bounce, I know they were all teams above us but surely something must be drastically wrong with the defensive coaching side of things.
The first goals was a joke, we have been poor all year from set pieces and corners.
I know Shawcross has been fantastic before his back injury but what excuse has he for the penalty today.
Muniesa is loved by the fans because he claims to love Stoke and interacts with the crowd, but what does he actually bring to the team on the pitch?
I don't want Hughes out or Pulis back but given what I have seen in the last four games I tend to agree that end to the season is embarrassing and I think some players are on the beach.
I would add that some are looking at the European Cup and some will be considering their futures at the club.
I'll still be there again next week, season ticket already bought for next year, I'm still behind the team but boy am I unhappy again this weekend.
Moan over, come on Stoke.
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Post by capto on Apr 23, 2016 16:29:50 GMT
So you don't think eight or nine first teams either injured, suspended or patently not match fit has a bearing? Changes do need to be made but I haven't seen many posters being prepared to cut this team any slack whatsoever, which is pretty sad considering the position we find ourselves in despite all our problems. Some of the abuse directed at Ryan on Twitter is shameful. yes, you are right, the point I'd make tho' is, the players who come in, should they not show some effort and commitment? Should they not be knocking on the door for a permanent first team place? Shouldn't the management have them motivated? The most worrying thing that i see is that the recent clueless and gutless performances are what we have laughed about this season at Villa & Newcastle - I don't want us to be a laughing stock? I don't want us to be higher up on motd's running order just because we are shipping goals? |
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Post by nott1 on Apr 23, 2016 16:31:00 GMT
So you don't think eight or nine first teams either injured, suspended or patently not match fit has a bearing? Changes do need to be made but I haven't seen many posters being prepared to cut this team any slack whatsoever, which is pretty sad considering the position we find ourselves in despite all our problems. Some of the abuse directed at Ryan on Twitter is shameful. While I would never condone any of the players getting dogs abuse I feel that making excuses for these type of performances isn't helping anyone, we have what can arguably be our best SQUAD ever and even the players we have available are a country mile better than most of what we've been used to. The trio of 3-0 results and now the trio of conceding 4 falls IMHO directly at the managers feet. Gouranga. The manager isn't on the pitch. It's the players who are responsible.We need at least one top CB and striker. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2016 16:32:39 GMT
The worrying thing is that one of our best players, Ryan is looking so crap. He's clearly not fit though. Why is the manager playing him??? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 16:34:35 GMT
So you don't think eight or nine first teams either injured, suspended or patently not match fit has a bearing? Changes do need to be made but I haven't seen many posters being prepared to cut this team any slack whatsoever, which is pretty sad considering the position we find ourselves in despite all our problems. Some of the abuse directed at Ryan on Twitter is shameful. While I would never condone any of the players getting dogs abuse I feel that making excuses for these type of performances isn't helping anyone, we have what can arguably be our best SQUAD ever and even the players we have available are a country mile better than most of what we've been used to. The trio of 3-0 results and now the trio of conceding 4 falls IMHO directly at the managers feet. Gouranga. Hughes has come across a bit of a tinkerman this season. Happy to see diouf back in the team though. |
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Post by redstriper on Apr 23, 2016 16:34:44 GMT
In truth we've looked unbalanced since Johnson got injured - he was a key player in the strategy we've adopted.
Anyone getting on ryans back is moron, the guy puts his heart and soul into the club and is clearly struggling with his injury, the problem is with the injury list we've got we don't have adequate cover.
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Post by trentvale68 on Apr 23, 2016 16:51:02 GMT
Ive never worked in a workplace where half my colleagues are off sick and I have the option to put my feet up, take things easy and then blame it on the ones who are absent.
footballers have it way too easy..and a few of them wont really give too hoots by this time tomorrow
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Post by generationex on Apr 23, 2016 16:56:57 GMT
I hope they are on the beach rather than the emergence of something more deep rooted. We've had a touch of the Newcastle about us this season, which seems to be getting worse.
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Post by trentvale68 on Apr 23, 2016 17:01:24 GMT
On current form, we are worse than bloody Newcastle!
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 23, 2016 17:02:15 GMT
Think Sparky hhas made some terrible decisions on players, tactics and formations this season.
He clearly doesn't know his best team or st-up.
You also have to question his training and fitness regime.
He dropped a massive bollock with his team selection for our massive game at Palace.
After that our season turned to "rat-shit"... as one of our esteemed posters commentated after that particular debacle.
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