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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 1:56:02 GMT
He really is struggling. Can he cut it at this level. I hope he will get back the form he showed prior to his injury, but he ain't half taking his time. Maybe a loan spell could do him good next season.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 19, 2016 2:05:30 GMT
Nah. They've pretty much all lost the plot. The holes that need filling are obvious - fill those, push the reset button over the Summer and we'll be in good shape for next season (I hope).
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 19, 2016 2:05:55 GMT
Think the biggest problem is Shakiri!!!
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Post by kustokie on Apr 19, 2016 2:09:30 GMT
Think the biggest problem is Shakiri!!! The biggest problem is collectively they've totally lost the plot. It speaks to Sparky's ability (or lack thereof) to manage a bunch of immature, type-A personalities. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 19, 2016 2:17:28 GMT
Think the biggest problem is Shakiri!!! The biggest problem is collectively they've totally lost the plot. It speaks to Sparky's ability (or lack thereof) to manage a bunch of immature, type-A personalities. I would love to see sparky build up a team that works off the ball as well as on it, just like Spurs last night..... |
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 19, 2016 2:26:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 3:37:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 3:55:39 GMT
Turning on our own players now?
Classy.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 19, 2016 3:59:36 GMT
I doubt Bojan would be too happy being loaned out again because that's been the story of his career so far. He's finally found a home and a good mentor in Hughes. Before today he was finding his old form. So, I wouldn't make any decisions like that based on today's performance. On that basis, you'd have to throw them all out and start over with the possible exception of the kit man. That would be taking a short term solution to a long term problem which doesn't generally work too well.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Apr 19, 2016 4:16:20 GMT
You don't push the poor bastard out to right wing for a start.
Hughes has a real problem IMO, he has no idea how to fit Afellay and Bojan into the same team.
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Post by werrington on Apr 19, 2016 4:48:01 GMT
Not this shit again
Despair doesn't do it justice
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Post by clivey05 on Apr 19, 2016 5:35:42 GMT
Bojan when selected has to play the number 10 role, not false 9 and definitely not out on the wing. Problem is Affeley is playing much more consistently in that role.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 5:53:07 GMT
I'm not hanging him out to dry, but there is a reason he has been loaned out in the past, we are not good enough to carry a passenger, especially up front, where we are at our weakest, it is obvious he needs games, so a loan would be ideal, or do we get all bleary eyed and keep him either as a starter or as a sub...
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 19, 2016 5:59:35 GMT
he is not fit enough , whether that is the injury or our training methods it's hard to tell but he needs to be fitter than he is
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Post by werrington on Apr 19, 2016 6:01:41 GMT
I'm not hanging him out to dry, but there is a reason he has been loaned out in the past, we are not good enough to carry a passenger, especially up front, where we are at our weakest, it is obvious he needs games, so a loan would be ideal, or do we get all bleary eyed and keep him either as a starter or as a sub... So we loan out any player who isn't at the races In reality you are hanging him out to dry ....were you one of those calling for him to be loaned in his first season when we had similar threads to this or even one of those calling for Shawcross to be listed back to the championship after that first game v Bolton ? For that it's worth he was indeed poor last night as was every single player on that pitch but for me he was the best of a poor bunch Who else should we loan out on the back of it ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 6:40:12 GMT
I'm not hanging him out to dry, but there is a reason he has been loaned out in the past, we are not good enough to carry a passenger, especially up front, where we are at our weakest, it is obvious he needs games, so a loan would be ideal, or do we get all bleary eyed and keep him either as a starter or as a sub... So we loan out any player who isn't at the races In reality you are hanging him out to dry ....were you one of those calling for him to be loaned in his first season when we had similar threads to this or even one of those calling for Shawcross to be listed back to the championship after that first game v Bolton ? For that it's worth he was indeed poor last night as was every single player on that pitch but for me he was the best of a poor bunch Who else should we loan out on the back of it ? Yeah you are right. Only shit players ever get loaned out, and normally it is not in everyone's interest. Lets keep him and just hope and pray that he comes good, after all we can carry him as a passenger cuz we are fucking brill aren't we. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 19, 2016 6:43:12 GMT
We need to build around Bojan, not loan him out. Jesus.
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Post by werrington on Apr 19, 2016 6:44:45 GMT
So we loan out any player who isn't at the races In reality you are hanging him out to dry ....were you one of those calling for him to be loaned in his first season when we had similar threads to this or even one of those calling for Shawcross to be listed back to the championship after that first game v Bolton ? For that it's worth he was indeed poor last night as was every single player on that pitch but for me he was the best of a poor bunch Who else should we loan out on the back of it ? Yeah you are right. Only shit players ever get loaned out, and normally it is not in everyone's interest. Lets keep him and just hope and pray that he comes good, after all we can carry him as a passenger cuz we are fucking brill aren't we. When did he become a passenger ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 6:47:09 GMT
Yeah you are right. Only shit players ever get loaned out, and normally it is not in everyone's interest. Lets keep him and just hope and pray that he comes good, after all we can carry him as a passenger cuz we are fucking brill aren't we. When did he become a passenger ? Virtually every game he has played in this season. I really want him to get back to his best, but at the moment he is miles away from that, and I can not see a loan spell hurting him at all. Shows we still have faith in him, rather than just shipping him out. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 19, 2016 6:48:48 GMT
He was one of our best players in the last two games before this one.
Last night he came up against an excellent defence that none of our flair players could do anything against and then was totally marginalised by being moved out wide.
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Post by walton corner on Apr 19, 2016 6:52:02 GMT
The problem with Bojan is after his injury ,he has worked so much in the gym getting stronger etc...but the problem is he has bulked up a little to much and looks unfit ,not gliding past players like before ,but he should be playing just behind a forward .
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Post by 2004 on Apr 19, 2016 7:00:43 GMT
What a stupid thing to say
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 19, 2016 7:07:17 GMT
Bojan and Affelay were the only players to come out of last night's shambolic excuse for a performance with any credit, not to mention the only two to show any fight or desire!
Arnie had his worst game all season, Imbula didn't seem to know what position he was supposed to play in, the back four were all over the pitch leaving massive fucking holes you could steam an oil tanker through and Shaqiri didn't take on his man anywhere near enough.
They were good but we were fucking abysmal. It's not like it's a one off either, the performances since the second half against Swansea have been a fucking joke. Get the season over quick, preferably with no more embarrassment, and get some new bodies in. We need a thorough overhaul.
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Post by icelandpotter on Apr 19, 2016 7:55:37 GMT
Agree with Woody, Bojan and Affelay were the only ones running around and trying to make something happen last night, so to the OP - get a grip.
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Post by Bagwash on Apr 19, 2016 8:04:11 GMT
Bojan when selected has to play the number 10 role, not false 9 and definitely not out on the wing. Problem is Affeley is playing much more consistently in that role. Exactly,said the same last night. When he dropped back into midfield he was involved a lot more.I admit Afellay is playing better but as another poster has said we should build the team around Bojan. |
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Post by mumf on Apr 19, 2016 8:05:11 GMT
We need to build around Bojan, not loan him out. Jesus. I don't see how you can build around someone who is so easily robbed of the ball and who is severely lacking in confidence . If we are to build around anyone then that has to be Imbula . He seems very frustrated at our lack of attacking options and incisive runs . Until Bojan recaptures his form then he should be on the bench . His passing has also been very poor just recently . Hughes needs to decide if his strikers are good enough or not . Get rid or keep ....? I don't think he rates Joselu or Diouf to be perfectly honest nd he knows that Crouch and Walters are well past their best and need replacing . |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 19, 2016 8:09:19 GMT
We need to build around Bojan, not loan him out. Jesus. I don't see how you can build around someone who is so easily robbed of the ball and who is severely lacking in confidence . If we are to build around anyone then that has to be Imbula . He seems very frustrated at our lack of attacking options and incisive runs . Until Bojan recaptures his form then he should be on the bench . His passing has also been very poor just recently . Hughes needs to decide if his strikers are good enough or not . Get rid or keep ....? I don't think he rates Joselu or Diouf to be perfectly honest nd he knows that Crouch and Walters are well past their best and need replacing . He was recapturing his form. He was excellent against Swansea and good against Liverpool, after a good cameo against Chelsea and invvement in the goal against Southampton. Imbula is another to build around but he needs to learn when to keep it simple and lay it off sooner rather than just running into four players and losing the ball. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 19, 2016 8:10:32 GMT
Fuck Bojan off and get Dean Whitehead back. Proper footballers who kick fuck and het yellow cards all the time.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 19, 2016 8:12:10 GMT
I don't see how you can build around someone who is so easily robbed of the ball and who is severely lacking in confidence . If we are to build around anyone then that has to be Imbula . He seems very frustrated at our lack of attacking options and incisive runs . Until Bojan recaptures his form then he should be on the bench . His passing has also been very poor just recently . Hughes needs to decide if his strikers are good enough or not . Get rid or keep ....? I don't think he rates Joselu or Diouf to be perfectly honest nd he knows that Crouch and Walters are well past their best and need replacing . He was recapturing his form. He was excellent against Swansea and good against Liverpool, after a good cameo against Chelsea and invvement in the goal against Southampton. Imbula is another to build around but he needs to learn when to keep it simple and lay it off sooner rather than just running into four players and losing the ball. You say that matebut running into four players and losing the ball is good because it shows PASSION. |
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Post by SCFC92 on Apr 19, 2016 8:12:23 GMT
For fuck sake!
I despair I really do!
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