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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 19:31:00 GMT
Bloody hell lad how long have you been watching Stoke? I think they complimented each other perfectly, Muniesa would cut things out before they happened, had excellent distribution and could predict and break up play, when things got past that then Shawcross was the destroyer and organised everything and dominated in the air and at doing all the dirty stuff and covered Muni if he cocked up. They were a joy to watch in that run of games, I hope it can be replicated. Shame they're both seemingly made of biscuits these days. Oh and I'm 20 and pretty much exclusively followed Man Utd till I was about 11 so yeah, not that fucking long
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 18, 2016 20:01:45 GMT
Not quick enough, not strong enought and no positional sense either...that enough champ? I love that you're still bitter I referred to you as 'champ' to wind you up two months ago vintage oatcake! You don't have to be fast or even ridiculously strong to be a good centre half, his positional sense is excellent and his reading of the game and seeing play before it's happened is second to none. The way he plays running out of defence to intercept is risky and is bound to make him look a bit silly while he is young. To say that a 24 year old, the youngest player to play for Barca no-less, and already has 47 games under his belt for our first team hasn't the potential to ever be in our starting XI is quite a retarded statement indeed, but then again you strike me as a quite a retarded man! Calling people retarded? You need to grow up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 20:03:08 GMT
I love that you're still bitter I referred to you as 'champ' to wind you up two months ago vintage oatcake! You don't have to be fast or even ridiculously strong to be a good centre half, his positional sense is excellent and his reading of the game and seeing play before it's happened is second to none. The way he plays running out of defence to intercept is risky and is bound to make him look a bit silly while he is young. To say that a 24 year old, the youngest player to play for Barca no-less, and already has 47 games under his belt for our first team hasn't the potential to ever be in our starting XI is quite a retarded statement indeed, but then again you strike me as a quite a retarded man! Calling people retarded? You need to grow up.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 18, 2016 20:04:02 GMT
Calling people retarded? You need to grow up. What's your point?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 20:06:30 GMT
That this whole argument is quite retarded. Agree to disagree, you've made the claim that Muniesa hasn't got the ability to ever become a starting centre half in the prem and you're entitled to your delusion!
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 18, 2016 20:10:24 GMT
That this whole argument is quite retarded. Agree to disagree, you've made the claim that Muniesa hasn't got the ability to ever become a starting centre half in the prem and you're entitled to your delusion! Can't anyone disagree with you without you resorting to being patronising and childish?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 20:42:37 GMT
That this whole argument is quite retarded. Agree to disagree, you've made the claim that Muniesa hasn't got the ability to ever become a starting centre half in the prem and you're entitled to your delusion! Can't anyone disagree with you without you resorting to being patronising and childish? Dunno champ, can they!?
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Jun 18, 2016 22:20:10 GMT
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 19, 2016 5:35:56 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jun 19, 2016 8:25:21 GMT
That photo of Peace on the link, hes got a crap comb over
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Post by pottersrule on Jun 19, 2016 9:38:53 GMT
Bloody hell lad how long have you been watching Stoke? I think they complimented each other perfectly, Muniesa would cut things out before they happened, had excellent distribution and could predict and break up play, when things got past that then Shawcross was the destroyer and organised everything and dominated in the air and at doing all the dirty stuff and covered Muni if he cocked up. They were a joy to watch in that run of games, I hope it can be replicated. Shame they're both seemingly made of biscuits these days. Oh and I'm 20 and pretty much exclusively followed rugby till I was about 11 so yeah, not that fucking long I was thinking the Huth/Shawcross partnership to be honest mate.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 19, 2016 9:49:49 GMT
That's surely the Daily Fail guessing what the situation might be. What happens if negotiations run into September does that mean The Boggies can't buy or sell a single player this summer. What cack. Typical of the Nazi rag.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 10:18:21 GMT
I think they complimented each other perfectly, Muniesa would cut things out before they happened, had excellent distribution and could predict and break up play, when things got past that then Shawcross was the destroyer and organised everything and dominated in the air and at doing all the dirty stuff and covered Muni if he cocked up. They were a joy to watch in that run of games, I hope it can be replicated. Shame they're both seemingly made of biscuits these days. Oh and I'm 20 and pretty much exclusively followed rugby till I was about 11 so yeah, not that fucking long I was thinking the Huth/Shawcross partnership to be honest mate. Perfect In Pulis' system, it didn't look the same under Hughes did it? You couldn't play two destroyer players next to each other in Hughes' system really. I just mean that Shawcross and Muni's games complimented each other phenomenally well in my opinion!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 19, 2016 10:29:24 GMT
Laughing
It's purely tactical to twist the price again , if you want him before the 31st August you have to make me an offer I cent refuse and can sell on the prospective buyers as such .
Totally convinced WBA will not want to sell to a near rival if it's avoidable . Equally they can buy as that's increasing the asset value but some will be nervous as you Can safely say a sale will result in a change of manager and all that goes with it .
For us it's a pain either we look elsewhere it accept to bring it to a conclusion we are going to have to pay a full price , as bluffing has not really worked for people with their chairman for anyone .
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Post by bassmaster on Jun 19, 2016 10:35:27 GMT
Laughing It's purely tactical to twist the price again , if you want him before the 31st August you have to make me an offer I cent refuse and can sell on the prospective buyers as such . Totally convinced WBA will not want to sell to a near rival if it's avoidable . Equally they can buy as that's increasing the asset value but some will be nervous as you Can safely say a sale will result in a change of manager and all that goes with it . For us it's a pain either we look elsewhere it accept to bring it to a conclusion we are going to have to pay a full price , as bluffing has not really worked for people with their chairman for anyone . Are you taking the piss or are you really illiterate?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 19, 2016 10:48:50 GMT
Laughing It's purely tactical to twist the price again , if you want him before the 31st August you have to make me an offer I cent refuse and can sell on the prospective buyers as such . Totally convinced WBA will not want to sell to a near rival if it's avoidable . Equally they can buy as that's increasing the asset value but some will be nervous as you Can safely say a sale will result in a change of manager and all that goes with it . For us it's a pain either we look elsewhere it accept to bring it to a conclusion we are going to have to pay a full price , as bluffing has not really worked for people with their chairman for anyone . Are you taking the piss or are you really illiterate? He's taking the piss. I understand that he is actually a professor of English language and linguistics at York University.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 19, 2016 10:53:22 GMT
Laughing It's purely tactical to twist the price again , if you want him before the 31st August you have to make me an offer I cent refuse and can sell on the prospective buyers as such . Totally convinced WBA will not want to sell to a near rival if it's avoidable . Equally they can buy as that's increasing the asset value but some will be nervous as you Can safely say a sale will result in a change of manager and all that goes with it . For us it's a pain either we look elsewhere it accept to bring it to a conclusion we are going to have to pay a full price , as bluffing has not really worked for people with their chairman for anyone . Huh?
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Post by nott1 on Jun 19, 2016 13:09:06 GMT
Are you taking the piss or are you really illiterate? He's taking the piss. I understand that he is actually a professor of English language and linguistics at York University. Lancaster more like!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 19, 2016 13:15:26 GMT
Laughing It's purely tactical to twist the price again , if you want him before the 31st August you have to make me an offer I cent refuse and can sell on the prospective buyers as such . Totally convinced WBA will not want to sell to a near rival if it's avoidable . Equally they can buy as that's increasing the asset value but some will be nervous as you Can safely say a sale will result in a change of manager and all that goes with it . For us it's a pain either we look elsewhere it accept to bring it to a conclusion we are going to have to pay a full price , as bluffing has not really worked for people with their chairman for anyone . Worryingly I think I understand what you're trying to say. However, neither buying or selling affects their value though does it? One produces a tangible asset the other produces cash reserves, both valued the same by a prospective buyer looking through the clubs accounts. Berahino would show up as a £15m asset if he stayed or if he was sold the £15m sale price would show up as as a cash reserve in the bank, both in effect, the same value. But that wasn't the point I was making. I was using my massive journalistic experience to point out that just because they are 'possibly' about to be taken over can't stop them doing business (ie buying and selling players), as the Daily Facist suggests, otherwise they could end up going bust before the deal is done. The deal could take months to conclude. Plus Berahino's value will be considerably less next summer than this (probably set at a tribunal) so if they want to have any influence on the price they need to sell this summer. If as you suggest they are going to play haedball it may bite them up the arse and lose them millions. What I was saying was for the reasons I've outlined, I can't see the sale of the club having any bearing on the sale of Berahino.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 19, 2016 16:36:23 GMT
Laughing I understand the accounting points you make , and agree , im not sure how rational the WBA view will be on trying to avoid a sale to stoke unless it's at a very high published price . However who knows good deals still get done if for example wanyama to Spurs really is £11m then there are still deals to be done at sensible prices.
Time will tell and all we all want is a decent window that's takes us forward .
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Post by pottersrule on Jun 19, 2016 17:34:00 GMT
I was thinking the Huth/Shawcross partnership to be honest mate. Perfect In Pulis' system, it didn't look the same under Hughes did it? You couldn't play two destroyer players next to each other in Hughes' system really. I just mean that Shawcross and Muni's games complimented each other phenomenally wein my opinion! I think Huth was injured for the bulk of Hughes tenure to be honest.Before the injury, Manure away as I recall,he had been an ever present. Weather the injury gave Hughes the chance to get in a ball playing centre half is certainly open to debate.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 19, 2016 17:39:15 GMT
Perfect In Pulis' system, it didn't look the same under Hughes did it? You couldn't play two destroyer players next to each other in Hughes' system really. I just mean that Shawcross and Muni's games complimented each other phenomenally wein my opinion! I think Huth was injured for the bulk of Hughes tenure to be honest.Before the injury, Manure away as I recall,he had been an ever present. Weather the injury gave Hughes the chance to get in a ball playing centre half is certainly open to debate. He didn't look comfortable with the change of style even before his injury though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 18:19:18 GMT
Perfect In Pulis' system, it didn't look the same under Hughes did it? You couldn't play two destroyer players next to each other in Hughes' system really. I just mean that Shawcross and Muni's games complimented each other phenomenally wein my opinion! I think Huth was injured for the bulk of Hughes tenure to be honest.Before the injury, Manure away as I recall,he had been an ever present. Weather the injury gave Hughes the chance to get in a ball playing centre half is certainly open to debate. Even without injury he was poor in every game he featured in under Hughes. Not saying he was a bad player, infact he is one of my favourite ever Stoke players and comfortably in my top 5 but in our system he has been poor.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 19, 2016 18:27:20 GMT
Laughing I understand the accounting points you make , and agree , im not sure how rational the WBA view will be on trying to avoid a sale to stoke unless it's at a very high published price . However who knows good deals still get done if for example wanyama to Spurs really is £11m then there are still deals to be done at sensible prices. Tim e will tell and all we all want is a decent window that's takes us forward .I take it you're back on your laptop because I can understand that. And I agree.
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Post by crownmeking on Jun 19, 2016 18:59:37 GMT
Are you taking the piss or are you really illiterate? He's taking the piss. I understand that he is actually a professor of English language and linguistics at York University. Benji Hawking
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 12:14:29 GMT
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 21, 2016 18:53:56 GMT
Does anyone else think that if we sign Berahino we could suffer from a chronic lack of height? Say Arnautovic goes we could end up with Shaqiri, Bojan, Berahino and another as the frontline
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Post by werrington on Jun 21, 2016 18:55:20 GMT
Does anyone else think that if we sign Berahino we could suffer from a chronic lack of height? Say Arnautovic goes we could end up with Shaqiri, Bojan, Berahino and another as the frontline Why where have Diouf and Joselu gone ?
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 21, 2016 18:55:25 GMT
Does anyone else think that if we sign Berahino we could suffer from a chronic lack of height? Say Arnautovic goes we could end up with Shaqiri, Bojan, Berahino and another as the frontline You've come out with that shit before. He's 5' 11".
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 21, 2016 19:00:36 GMT
Does anyone else think that if we sign Berahino we could suffer from a chronic lack of height? Say Arnautovic goes we could end up with Shaqiri, Bojan, Berahino and another as the frontline Why where have Diouf and Joselu gone ? I'd imagine they will have their name on a plaque on a sub seat if Berahino signs. I'm not convinced he's signing Berahino just for Striker role anyway, I think he'll see him doing a wide role at times like Odemwingie did to good effect. Also, I'll be suprised if Diouf is here by end of August.
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