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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 5, 2016 1:38:07 GMT
That is YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it.
It is a shame that we (I) have to doubt the validity of this season from Leicester but there are just far too many things to look at.
Suspected doping, players magically increasing fitness, ridiculous amount of free kicks and penalties and the list goes on and on.
Now all these things may be a coincidence, however I do not think so and a lot of people share my view.
You and a lot of other people think all is above board, most of you however would be happy to see anyone win it just so long as it breaks the so called Big teams monopoly of it. While I would love a situation where all teams were genuinely equal in terms of money they have to spend and would agree that the so called big clubs money advantage is as good as cheating my fear is that US and Chinese money will make a mockery of our sport turning it into a dancing contest like the wrestling. BTW my nephew was a wrestler.
So unless you have evidence that proves you claims then I'll keep MY opinion thank you.
Erm, you don't have any evidence that supports your claims? Why would there be a pro-Leicester conspiracy? Why Leicester, of all the clubs? They're not especially fashionable, they're not the 'brand' that the big clubs are overseas, and already the idea of them being in the Champions League is making the money men nervous. I'm sure doping goes on in football but these claims are being made in connection with a known charlatan and certainly aren't to be paraded as fact at this stage. They get a lot of penalties and free kicks because they have bags of pace in their side. If you went through those penalties, which of them would you say weren't genuine? The Vardy one against Arsenal springs to mind but the ref in that game was hardly conspiring in Leicester's favour was he, or if he was he did a lousy job. It's a paranoid conspiracy theory born of petty jealously that a smaller club is on the verge of breaking the glass ceiling and it's not us. I agree with you that the conspiracy is nonsense but to play the devils, Leicester makes sense as the club to use, its a bigger story, a team avoids relegation against impossible odds and the very next season smash the league, they'd at least have been on the list if thats what you wanted to do, bloody stupid mind
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 4:57:13 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Leicester perform next season - will they continue their suddenly incredible form, or will this season be a one off and they revert to middle table or relegation fodder. I suppose it will depend on who they can keep hold of, and which new players they sign, but I suspect this season will be a one-off for them. It will be very interesting to see if the glass ceiling has been permanently broken.
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 5, 2016 6:31:35 GMT
Erm, you don't have any evidence that supports your claims? Why would there be a pro-Leicester conspiracy? Why Leicester, of all the clubs? They're not especially fashionable, they're not the 'brand' that the big clubs are overseas, and already the idea of them being in the Champions League is making the money men nervous. I'm sure doping goes on in football but these claims are being made in connection with a known charlatan and certainly aren't to be paraded as fact at this stage. They get a lot of penalties and free kicks because they have bags of pace in their side. If you went through those penalties, which of them would you say weren't genuine? The Vardy one against Arsenal springs to mind but the ref in that game was hardly conspiring in Leicester's favour was he, or if he was he did a lousy job. It's a paranoid conspiracy theory born of petty jealously that a smaller club is on the verge of breaking the glass ceiling and it's not us. I agree with you that the conspiracy is nonsense but to play the devils, Leicester makes sense as the club to use, its a bigger story, a team avoids relegation against impossible odds and the very next season smash the league, they'd at least have been on the list if thats what you wanted to do, bloody stupid mind But then surely the conspiracy would have had to have started last season, when going in to April they looked relegation certainties, and when their unlikely run of form began. Personally, I'd have said if a shadowy cabal was going to conspire to produce unlikely champions, then a bigger story would be Bournemouth.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 5, 2016 6:38:07 GMT
Erm, you don't have any evidence that supports your claims? Why would there be a pro-Leicester conspiracy? Why Leicester, of all the clubs? They're not especially fashionable, they're not the 'brand' that the big clubs are overseas, and already the idea of them being in the Champions League is making the money men nervous. I'm sure doping goes on in football but these claims are being made in connection with a known charlatan and certainly aren't to be paraded as fact at this stage. They get a lot of penalties and free kicks because they have bags of pace in their side. If you went through those penalties, which of them would you say weren't genuine? The Vardy one against Arsenal springs to mind but the ref in that game was hardly conspiring in Leicester's favour was he, or if he was he did a lousy job. It's a paranoid conspiracy theory born of petty jealously that a smaller club is on the verge of breaking the glass ceiling and it's not us. I agree with you that the conspiracy is nonsense but to play the devils, Leicester makes sense as the club to use, its a bigger story, a team avoids relegation against impossible odds and the very next season smash the league, they'd at least have been on the list if thats what you wanted to do, bloody stupid mind Why would you want to do it at all if you were an evil corporate type though?
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 5, 2016 6:48:14 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Leicester perform next season - will they continue their suddenly incredible form, or will this season be a one off and they revert to middle table or relegation fodder. I suppose it will depend on who they can keep hold of, and which new players they sign, but I suspect this season will be a one-off for them. It will be very interesting to see if the glass ceiling has been permanently broken. If they finish 9th it will give ammunition to the bollox conspiracy notions.
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 5, 2016 6:51:39 GMT
Simpson wasn't a penalty.
Seriously what do you want the bloke to do? Duck and let it go in? Pull off some contortionist trick and dislocate his own arm to make it dissappear for a second so the ball won't hit it?
The full replay shows Simpsons running motion never changes, he runs with his arms bent and when the ball hits him they're still bent against his own side. It was just a shit finish.
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 5, 2016 7:40:56 GMT
Jesus christ, there is no way in hell that Huth could deliberately handle that ball unless he has insane reflexes. The lad smashed the ball from point blank range! The other one wasn't a handball either as his arms were as tight as they could be to his body. If they were given against Stoke you would be up in arms about it. Huth was standing about 4 foot away when he had the ball twatted at his hand. Not sure how he could have moved it out of the way in time. Slow motion replays have a lot to answer for. I've said this higher up the page, Huth spreads his arms to make himself a bigger target to prevent the cross coming in. In my view, in those circumstances it's deliberate handball. The distance he is from the ball when it's hit, and whether he has time to react are irrelevant, he's put his hand there to block the anticipated cross. If that had been against Stoke and not given I'd have been raging (and I suspect both of you would too!).
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Post by metalhead on Apr 5, 2016 7:58:27 GMT
To be fair, he's not the only one calling it. There are articles from months ago that suggest Leicester have been doping. It wouldn't surprise me. Why is football different to any other sport? Cheats exist.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 5, 2016 9:24:02 GMT
Simpson wasn't a penalty. Seriously what do you want the bloke to do? Duck and let it go in? Pull off some contortionist trick and dislocate his own arm to make it dissappear for a second so the ball won't hit it? The full replay shows Simpsons running motion never changes, he runs with his arms bent and when the ball hits him they're still bent against his own side. It was just a shit finish. Stonewall penalty and red card all day every day. Why block it with your arm if you can block it with your body? He moved his arm to the ball - watch the video. link
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 5, 2016 9:38:16 GMT
Simpson wasn't a penalty. Seriously what do you want the bloke to do? Duck and let it go in? Pull off some contortionist trick and dislocate his own arm to make it dissappear for a second so the ball won't hit it? The full replay shows Simpsons running motion never changes, he runs with his arms bent and when the ball hits him they're still bent against his own side. It was just a shit finish. Stonewall penalty and red card all day every day. Why block it with your arm if you can block it with your body? Never in a million years. It's hit straight at him, he didn't block it, it just hit him. Edit: I've watched the replay plenty. His arms aren't out trying to gain an advantage. Even Mane's appeal was for all of 2 seconds.
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 5, 2016 9:58:02 GMT
Simpson sort of flicks his elbow out when it hits him though so it's a penalty and red card.
Huth's hand was out from his body and stopped the ball from reaching the middle of the goal also a penalty for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 9:59:17 GMT
Getting back to the penalties. Players are quick in thought and mind these days. I'm sure in my mind that Huthy new what he was doing. Ask yourselves why he had to open the palm of his hand? I'll tell you. To try and stop the ball. If he hadn't made such an obvious movement, maybe, just maybe it wasn't a pen. I am not convinced. As far as Leicester. I hope they do win the league, and put a stop to the frigging big clubs winning all the time. Money generally wins in this game, and I for one want it to stop.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 5, 2016 11:57:56 GMT
I agree with you that the conspiracy is nonsense but to play the devils, Leicester makes sense as the club to use, its a bigger story, a team avoids relegation against impossible odds and the very next season smash the league, they'd at least have been on the list if thats what you wanted to do, bloody stupid mind But then surely the conspiracy would have had to have started last season, when going in to April they looked relegation certainties, and when their unlikely run of form began. Personally, I'd have said if a shadowy cabal was going to conspire to produce unlikely champions, then a bigger story would be Bournemouth. The drugs crap is meant to have started then aint it, before Claudio got there apparently.
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Post by basingstokie on Apr 5, 2016 18:43:18 GMT
I didn't think either were pens.
Neither arm was in an unnatural position
If you removed Simpsons arm the ball hits the side of his body.
Huth's hand was beside his body and the distance ball travelled made it impossible for him to move it out the way.
Harsh on Everton but I wouldn't have given either of them
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 5, 2016 19:06:22 GMT
He moved his arm slightly towards the ball, so a penalty.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 5, 2016 19:22:25 GMT
Definitely moved arm towards the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 19:29:25 GMT
Definitely moved arm towards the ball. Yes I agree with Ric
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Apr 5, 2016 21:05:28 GMT
I agree with you that the conspiracy is nonsense but to play the devils, Leicester makes sense as the club to use, its a bigger story, a team avoids relegation against impossible odds and the very next season smash the league, they'd at least have been on the list if thats what you wanted to do, bloody stupid mind Why would you want to do it at all if you were an evil corporate type though? 5000-1 this time last season to win the league, a cheeky £10K bet would see me alright. I only wished I could travel back in time
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