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Post by beale08 on Mar 13, 2016 17:09:58 GMT
Sorry if already posted but Peter Crouch is on Saturday Night Takeaway next Saturday! Should be a laugh
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 13, 2016 20:35:23 GMT
I saw enough of him yesterday thanks
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 20:52:35 GMT
Sorry if already posted but Peter Crouch is on Saturday Night Takeaway next Saturday! Should be a laugh He is doing "I'm a celebrity get out of my ear" with Abi These are the new two ronnies....Ant & Dec that is TEST
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 13, 2016 21:26:34 GMT
He should have been on for 90 minutes yesterday
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Post by mattythestokie on Mar 13, 2016 21:30:10 GMT
He should have been on for 90 minutes yesterday No, he shouldn't.
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 13, 2016 21:31:30 GMT
He should have been on for 90 minutes yesterday No, he shouldn't. Yes he should
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Post by mattythestokie on Mar 13, 2016 21:35:34 GMT
Can you explain why Diouf should have been dropped after his match saving goal against Chelsea? Hindsight is a wonderful thing but there was absolutely no reason Diouf should not have been starting up front against Southampton after his game against Chelsea.
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 13, 2016 21:52:46 GMT
Can you explain why Diouf should have been dropped after his match saving goal against Chelsea? Hindsight is a wonderful thing but there was absolutely no reason Diouf should not have been starting up front against Southampton after his game against Chelsea. Crouch is a goalscorer and has done nothing to deserve being dropped. Nothing against Diouf but he can't hold a candle to Crouch's record. At 2-1 Diouf needed to put his foot through the ball and it was probably 2-2. Either way we aint scoring enough goals
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Post by hanibal7 on Mar 14, 2016 3:31:11 GMT
Crouch looks awful, however them chipped balls by Imbula were scandalous. Crouch isnt good enough if we are supposed to be moving forward.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 14, 2016 6:21:24 GMT
Can you explain why Diouf should have been dropped after his match saving goal against Chelsea? Hindsight is a wonderful thing but there was absolutely no reason Diouf should not have been starting up front against Southampton after his game against Chelsea. Crouch is a goalscorer and has done nothing to deserve being dropped. Nothing against Diouf but he can't hold a candle to Crouch's record. At 2-1 Diouf needed to put his foot through the ball and it was probably 2-2. Either way we aint scoring enough goals The ball into diouf was crap. He had to take a touch and couldn't, as you say, put his foot through it. It was a great block by man of the match van dyke. Crouch is finished and should never have been offered a new contract. He was hopeless when he came on and his last start was so bad it should have seen him moved out on loan immediately. As for the comment about imbula (not yours admittedly) what was he supposed to do? There was no wide option available and the front 6 by that point, were standing like statues. Any ball to crouch has to be within a foot of him or he won't get anywhere near it.
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Post by kurt on Mar 14, 2016 7:14:33 GMT
He should have been on for 90 minutes yesterday Crouch can be subbed in some Cup-games for the last 15 minutes, but i would prefer Diouf, Joselu and Walters every time as forward in the league.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 14, 2016 7:58:16 GMT
Been saying he has been a spent force for a while now. The last 15 mins from us was fairly embarrassing for a team developing. The straight lumped ball to non moving forwards really was quite senseless. Contrast that with W Ham away last season when we kept playing through them until the bitter end when we got our rewards.
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 14, 2016 8:11:22 GMT
Totally killed the ever so slight impetus we had when he came on.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 14, 2016 8:50:32 GMT
Crouch is a goalscorer and has done nothing to deserve being dropped. Nothing against Diouf but he can't hold a candle to Crouch's record. At 2-1 Diouf needed to put his foot through the ball and it was probably 2-2. Either way we aint scoring enough goals The ball into diouf was crap. He had to take a touch and couldn't, as you say, put his foot through it. It was a great block by man of the match van dyke. Crouch is finished and should never have been offered a new contract. He was hopeless when he came on and his last start was so bad it should have seen him moved out on loan immediately. As for the comment about imbula (not yours admittedly) what was he supposed to do? There was no wide option available and the front 6 by that point, were standing like statues. Any ball to crouch has to be within a foot of him or he won't get anywhere near it. I disagree it wasn't the best ball but if he hits that first time of which he could have Van Dyke doesn't get the touch and probably 2-2.
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Post by MilanStokie on Mar 14, 2016 9:18:37 GMT
Been saying he has been a spent force for a while now. The last 15 mins from us was fairly embarrassing for a team developing. The straight lumped ball to non moving forwards really was quite senseless. Contrast that with W Ham away last season when we kept playing through them until the bitter end when we got our rewards. I remember saying he was 2 years ago. I was shot down in flames by his protectors sating his game doesn't rely on pace.... forgetting the other factors that all players need, you know like any type of mobility whatsoever. I can see him retiring now. should have moved him on 2 years ago when he might have prolonged his career with more games in the championship
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 14, 2016 9:33:19 GMT
The ball into diouf was crap. He had to take a touch and couldn't, as you say, put his foot through it. It was a great block by man of the match van dyke. Crouch is finished and should never have been offered a new contract. He was hopeless when he came on and his last start was so bad it should have seen him moved out on loan immediately. As for the comment about imbula (not yours admittedly) what was he supposed to do? There was no wide option available and the front 6 by that point, were standing like statues. Any ball to crouch has to be within a foot of him or he won't get anywhere near it. I disagree it wasn't the best ball but if he hits that first time of which he could have Van Dyke doesn't get the touch and probably 2-2. The point being, the ball into him was so bad he couldn't have hit it first time. He could have done more with the first touch to put the defender off balance, if you're being particularly harsh, but the first time shot simply wasn't on so bad was the ball into him
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Post by reddipotter on Mar 14, 2016 9:37:52 GMT
Crouch reads the game so that he can move into the right place before the ball arrives. Diouf reacts to where the ball is and this only looks reasonable because of his speed on the run. Neither of them had any decent service or support on Saturday, of course. The problem is not with individuals, but our tactics, or rather lack of them.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 14, 2016 9:39:12 GMT
It's sacrilege to knock Peter Crouch and I would never do it. That said I think his Stoke career is over, maybe his football career.
I think he's a top bloke and a good professional who never took himself seriously and made the most of his talent and attributes.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 14, 2016 9:46:49 GMT
I disagree it wasn't the best ball but if he hits that first time of which he could have Van Dyke doesn't get the touch and probably 2-2. The point being, the ball into him was so bad he couldn't have hit it first time. He could have done more with the first touch to put the defender off balance, if you're being particularly harsh, but the first time shot simply wasn't on so bad was the ball into him Mate I was right in line with Cameron when he played that ball in and it looked like an absolute belter. It was just gagging to be hit first time with his right foot, shaped back into the far corner. Admittedly I haven't seen a reply so I might be wrong as I'm old and my sight and memory are both failing but I just don't think he needed to take a touch (and neither did any of the others who sit round me judging from their comments). I like Dioufy but that was a bad miss but not quite as bad as Tadic at the end of the first half.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 14, 2016 9:50:51 GMT
The point being, the ball into him was so bad he couldn't have hit it first time. He could have done more with the first touch to put the defender off balance, if you're being particularly harsh, but the first time shot simply wasn't on so bad was the ball into him Mate I was right in line with Cameron when he played that ball in and it looked like an absolute belter. It was just gagging to be hit first time with his right foot, shaped back into the far corner. Admittedly I haven't seen a reply so I might be wrong as I'm old and my sight and memory are both failing but I just don't think he needed to take a touch (and neither did any of the others who sit round me judging from their comments). I like Dioufy but that was a bad miss but not quite as bad as Tadic at the end of the first half. The ball forced diouf to stop dead in his tracks and he had to take the touch. A first time effort would have had to be a toe poke that wouldn't had the pace or direction to beat Forster. I felt same as you at the game, thought he should have hit it first time and then saw the numerous replays. Much has been said about the weekend. One glaring thing for me is that we are missing glen Johnson enormously from an attacking perspective despite a very decent run of results of late.
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Post by mickmacc on Mar 14, 2016 10:06:09 GMT
Peter Crouch 22 in 42 games for England.400 Premier League appearances.Scored in San Siro.Scored best ever goal seen at the Brit.Scorer of most headed goals ever in the Premiership.Aceept that he's in the twilight years but also know he has a lot to offer as does Hughes hence his contract.If any of our other forwards even come close to the career he's had I will be amazed.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 14, 2016 10:08:16 GMT
Mate I was right in line with Cameron when he played that ball in and it looked like an absolute belter. It was just gagging to be hit first time with his right foot, shaped back into the far corner. Admittedly I haven't seen a reply so I might be wrong as I'm old and my sight and memory are both failing but I just don't think he needed to take a touch (and neither did any of the others who sit round me judging from their comments). I like Dioufy but that was a bad miss but not quite as bad as Tadic at the end of the first half. The ball forced diouf to stop dead in his tracks and he had to take the touch. A first time effort would have had to be a toe poke that wouldn't had the pace or direction to beat Forster. I felt same as you at the game, thought he should have hit it first time and then saw the numerous replays. Much has been said about the weekend. One glaring thing for me is that we are missing glen Johnson enormously from an attacking perspective despite a very decent run of results of late. Ok mate fair enough. I agree re Johnson. We really do miss him as an attacking threat. Despite being a fantastic athlete, the two chases back to prevent certain goals in the last two home games were superb, but Cameron just isn't the footballer that Johnson is. With Shaq looking like he might be out for the rest of the season (as good as) I hope Johnson's back soon. Any news?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 10:31:41 GMT
Can you explain why Diouf should have been dropped after his match saving goal against Chelsea? Hindsight is a wonderful thing but there was absolutely no reason Diouf should not have been starting up front against Southampton after his game against Chelsea. Crouch is a goalscorer and has done nothing to deserve being dropped. Nothing against Diouf but he can't hold a candle to Crouch's record. At 2-1 Diouf needed to put his foot through the ball and it was probably 2-2. Either way we aint scoring enough goals 1 shot in 8 league games. One. Shot.
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Post by mickmacc on Mar 14, 2016 11:55:10 GMT
Pathetic response to those career statistics.Did he start all those games?Oh no.A few minutes at the end of each.Taking agenda driven posting to a new lower level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 12:04:36 GMT
Crouch has been superb for us, a great professional and a credit to himself. But I think his best days are over, he needs to move on in the summer to the MLS or Championship to prolong his career. We need someone who is strong in the air, but they need to have a physical presence as well and Crouchie simply hasn't got that in his locker.....
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Post by mickmacc on Mar 14, 2016 12:25:15 GMT
Thing is he's so much better than having balls lobbed at his head in the last few minutes of games.He was superb in the away leg at Liverpool and played 120 minutes despite not having played before that so his fitness is good.Accept maybe now not first choice but still the classiest striker we have on the books.The others frankly are average and will never achieve half of what Crouch has.
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 14, 2016 12:28:33 GMT
I just look at the contribution that he's made whilst on the pitch this season. I'm sorry Pete, as much a nice guy that you are, I don't see him as a viable option anymore.
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Post by mickmacc on Mar 14, 2016 12:32:09 GMT
He's hardly had a chance to make a statement has he?I thought I was Abbey?
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Post by adamsson on Mar 14, 2016 12:33:44 GMT
I just look at the contribution that he's made whilst on the pitch this season. I'm sorry Pete, as much a nice guy that you are, I don't see him as a viable option anymore. I can see why he was brought on (to give us a different option) but every single time he has come on we have got worse rather than better. I think he will never quite reach 100 premier league goals. Time to move him on in the summer.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 14, 2016 12:35:07 GMT
I just look at the contribution that he's made whilst on the pitch this season. I'm sorry Pete, as much a nice guy that you are, I don't see him as a viable option anymore. I disagree BUT only if we use our brains when he's on the pitch. Saturday was (for me) a mistake to bring him on as Saints had been so dominant in the air and physically strong (which Crouchie will admit he isn't). He's a technically superb header and is very useful still but if like on Saturday his inclusion means we just lump it to him and hope, it'll rarely work. We are better than that now and we should have played the ball quicker into feet and got in behind them utilising our technical players.
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