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Post by samba :) on Mar 8, 2016 9:59:49 GMT
On here we all want Europe so at the weekend let's make sure everyone knows, neutrals seem to think we don't
Perhaps Hughes will put off the gas?
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Mar 8, 2016 10:04:03 GMT
I really struggle with how anyone prefers the league to the chance of Europe ., not sure we have quite enough goals , but a decent run in with everyone firing and we have a chance, as far as I can see we have not really hit top form yet and are 8th
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 8, 2016 10:13:19 GMT
On here we all want Europe so at the weekend let's make sure everyone knows, neutrals seem to think we don't Perhaps Hughes will put off the gas? It is quite clear from the recent comments by Hughes and the players that they (and Peter Coates?) really want to qualify for Europe - this season if possible. And quite right too. I know the Europa League often hits your league form but our squad now (with a couple more in the summer) should be good enough to have a decent Euro campaign without putting our Prem status at risk. |
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Mar 8, 2016 10:14:53 GMT
7th would be a decent finish i reckon but to get that i think we need 55/57 points ..so at least 3/4 wins or a couple of draws.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 10:20:18 GMT
A strong finish to the season and what will be will be. Hughes is desperate to win a trophy and qualify for Europe, we just came up short on one front so lets have a real go at the other target. Either way next season looks promising, curb the sluggish start to the season and it could be one to remember...
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 8, 2016 10:22:13 GMT
There are still quite a few on here who don't think we should be playing in Europe as it would mean compromising our league position and spend days fretting about whether we finish 10th or 14th. I suspect those individuals also target 40 pts every season.
It seems they are really out of sync with the rest of the club particularly the owners, players and manager. I would suspect the manager in particular would like to test his ability against European opposition.I think our lack of European participation would be the main driver for Hughes considering whether he wants a new challenge.
If we want the club to grow, the manager and key players to stay, then euro qualification becomes more important every season we miss out.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 8, 2016 10:23:15 GMT
Europe would be ace and I actually think if we can tie Arnie down and then add from there we should be able to do quite well in it.
The squad would need to be stronger, it's not strong enough now and we'd need better players down the spine either starting (CB and ST) or as cover (CM).
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Post by alster on Mar 8, 2016 10:29:43 GMT
I really struggle with how anyone prefers the league to the chance of Europe ., not sure we have quite enough goals , but a decent run in with everyone firing and we have a chance, as far as I can see we have not really hit top form yet and are 8th If that period around Christmas wasn't top form what the fook do you want? We were out playing the biggest teams, winning football matches and the football was scintillating. I want us to do as well as possible if that ends in Europe so be it but it's not a major priority to me. I'd like to see a team with a few more goals, playing attractive Premier league football in an improved stadium where the weather has a less adverse impact on the game. Let's face it a good 3pts against Newcastle with some great moments in the last 10 minutes but over the 90 it was a bit like watching a balloon blow around up the park. Youth development is another thing that would satisfy me more than a Europa league place, I really want to see the day some of these youngsters we've recruited start to break through and after that some we've brought on ourselves from scratch. The Europa to me is just the prospect of playing a bunch of no mark teams from God knows where. Lots of fixtures moved and loss of form after long trips to bloody Russia and other stupid places that aren't even in Europe with maybe the prospect of a couple of glamour games against some proper European names if you do well. Sorry to be such a wet blanket but it really doesn't excite me that much. |
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Post by ryan4england on Mar 8, 2016 10:31:08 GMT
I think our bid for berahino suggests we were aiming for top6 or higher with how things sat in january wether that's still the case I don't think so.
Hopefully we'll look back at this season in the summer and make the signings to make it happen.
Let's face it we are not going down next year so let's be ambitious in summer
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Post by foster on Mar 8, 2016 10:33:55 GMT
I'll tell you what I want!! I want some f*cking 'likes' for my Brussels Supporters Branch FB page, that's what I want.
Oh, and Europa League qualification.
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Post by alster on Mar 8, 2016 10:44:17 GMT
There are still quite a few on here who don't think we should be playing in Europe as it would mean compromising our league position and spend days fretting about whether we finish 10th or 14th. I suspect those individuals also target 40 pts every season. It seems they are really out of sync with the rest of the club particularly the owners, players and manager. I would suspect the manager in particular would like to test his ability against European opposition.I think our lack of European participation would be the main driver for Hughes considering whether he wants a new challenge. If we want the club to grow, the manager and key players to stay, then euro qualification becomes more important every season we miss out. I do get exactly what you mean in that regard, I agree it would aid retention and recruitment and I'm not that fussed about it not because of lack of ambition rather just because I think it's a bit of a shit competition. Even the Champions league to a lesser extent involves playing against no mark opposition. I'm not one who pines for the days of only Champions playing in a straight knockout tournament. I just want to see the best teams playing each other. I'd prefer more places to the big leagues and a redefined UEFA that only included real European federations. Russia and all those weird places that used to be Russia are not in Europe, fook them of to play in Asia. |
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Post by alster on Mar 8, 2016 10:48:43 GMT
There are still quite a few on here who don't think we should be playing in Europe as it would mean compromising our league position and spend days fretting about whether we finish 10th or 14th. I suspect those individuals also target 40 pts every season. It seems they are really out of sync with the rest of the club particularly the owners, players and manager. I would suspect the manager in particular would like to test his ability against European opposition.I think our lack of European participation would be the main driver for Hughes considering whether he wants a new challenge. If we want the club to grow, the manager and key players to stay, then euro qualification becomes more important every season we miss out. I do get exactly what you mean in that regard, I agree it would aid retention and recruitment and I'm not that fussed about it not because of lack of ambition rather just because I think it's a bit of a shit competition. Even the Champions league to a lesser extent involves playing against no mark opposition. I'm not one who pines for the days of only Champions playing in a straight knockout tournament. I just want to see the best teams playing each other. I'd prefer more places to the big leagues and a redefined UEFA that only included real European federations. Russia and all those weird places that used to be Russia are not in Europe, fook them of to play in Asia. Israel I mean how the fook is Israel in Europe! These people must have skipped geography. |
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Post by alster on Mar 8, 2016 10:50:55 GMT
Let's get fucking Egypt in as well it's closer than Israel. They can kill two birds with one stone and come and fucking blow us up whilst they're over here. Fucking Europe!
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Post by rocket888888 on Mar 8, 2016 10:52:57 GMT
The Europa gets a bad press mainly by the teams that think they are too good for it. Its a massive step for the club's reputation and ability to recruit more amazing players. It is a much easier sell to say "Look, we regularly qualify for the Europa League and with you in the team we think we can make a push for Champion's League qualification next season" than saying "hey come to a mid-table premiership team"
Besides, those midweek trips to Istanbul/Valencia etc. were absolutely mint. I'd take a season of mid-table for the adventure of more roadtrips. What was that Kazakh/Mongolian team we could've got? The Metalists or something.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Mar 8, 2016 10:58:09 GMT
I really struggle with how anyone prefers the league to the chance of Europe ., not sure we have quite enough goals , but a decent run in with everyone firing and we have a chance, as far as I can see we have not really hit top form yet and are 8th If that period around Christmas wasn't top form what the fook do you want? We were out playing the biggest teams, winning football matches and the football was scintillating. I want us to do as well as possible if that ends in Europe so be it but it's not a major priority to me. I'd like to see a team with a few more goals, playing attractive Premier league football in an improved stadium where the weather has a less adverse impact on the game. Let's face it a good 3pts against Newcastle with some great moments in the last 10 minutes but over the 90 it was a bit like watching a balloon blow around up the park. Youth development is another thing that would satisfy me more than a Europa league place, I really want to see the day some of these youngsters we've recruited start to break through and after that some we've brought on ourselves from scratch. The Europa to me is just the prospect of playing a bunch of no mark teams from God knows where. Lots of fixtures moved and loss of form after long trips to bloody Russia and other stupid places that aren't even in Europe with maybe the prospect of a couple of glamour games against some proper European names if you do well. Sorry to be such a wet blanket but it really doesn't excite me that much. of course We were great in a few games against the big teams although, the point that i am making is that over the season we have been inconsistent , we can do a fair bit better and thats a good thing as far as I can see . Obviously Europe depends on the draw but its a great experience compared to the overrated much hyped league , we should enjoy any cup competition |
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 8, 2016 11:12:03 GMT
Knowing our luck, we will finish in a Europe spot, the UK will vote leave the EU, and we won't end up playing in Europe. Imagine that haha. Just be our luck
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Post by IvKorzh on Mar 8, 2016 11:17:55 GMT
There are still quite a few on here who don't think we should be playing in Europe as it would mean compromising our league position and spend days fretting about whether we finish 10th or 14th. I suspect those individuals also target 40 pts every season. It seems they are really out of sync with the rest of the club particularly the owners, players and manager. I would suspect the manager in particular would like to test his ability against European opposition.I think our lack of European participation would be the main driver for Hughes considering whether he wants a new challenge. If we want the club to grow, the manager and key players to stay, then euro qualification becomes more important every season we miss out. I do get exactly what you mean in that regard, I agree it would aid retention and recruitment and I'm not that fussed about it not because of lack of ambition rather just because I think it's a bit of a shit competition. Even the Champions league to a lesser extent involves playing against no mark opposition. I'm not one who pines for the days of only Champions playing in a straight knockout tournament. I just want to see the best teams playing each other. I'd prefer more places to the big leagues and a redefined UEFA that only included real European federations. Russia and all those weird places that used to be Russia are not in Europe, fook them of to play in Asia. One part (who is the most developed and has more population that other part) of Russia is in Europe, another in Asia. I simply don't see a point why we should play in Asian League or whatever it's called. When USSR was existed (it was, obviously, bigger country with Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc), we were in UEFA and we were the 1st champions of EUROPE, not Asia. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 8, 2016 11:21:33 GMT
Knowing our luck, we will finish in a Europe spot, the UK will vote leave the EU, and we won't end up playing in Europe. Imagine that haha. Just be our luck So how do Norway, Switzerland, Israel and Russia (non of whom are in the EU) manage to play in the Champions and Europa Leagues then?  |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 8, 2016 11:23:25 GMT
I do get exactly what you mean in that regard, I agree it would aid retention and recruitment and I'm not that fussed about it not because of lack of ambition rather just because I think it's a bit of a shit competition. Even the Champions league to a lesser extent involves playing against no mark opposition. I'm not one who pines for the days of only Champions playing in a straight knockout tournament. I just want to see the best teams playing each other. I'd prefer more places to the big leagues and a redefined UEFA that only included real European federations. Russia and all those weird places that used to be Russia are not in Europe, fook them of to play in Asia. One part (who is the most developed and has more population that other part) of Russia is in Europe, another in Asia. I simply don't see a point why we should play in Asian League or whatever it's called. When USSR was existed (it was, obviously, bigger country with Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc), we were in UEFA and we were the 1st champions of EUROPE, not Asia. Yes, Russia (like Turkey) is in both Europe and Asia. I think it is some of the ex USSR countries (not Russia) which should be playing in Asian competition these days. |
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 8, 2016 11:24:53 GMT
Knowing our luck, we will finish in a Europe spot, the UK will vote leave the EU, and we won't end up playing in Europe. Imagine that haha. Just be our luck So how do Norway, Switzerland, Israel and Russia (non of whom are in the EU) manage to play in the Champions and Europa Leagues then? You just know dickhead Dave will try strike a deal so we can't join and gets the votes of football fans. After all his high flying Aston villa aren't going reach Europe anytime soon  |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 8, 2016 11:35:57 GMT
So how do Norway, Switzerland, Israel and Russia (non of whom are in the EU) manage to play in the Champions and Europa Leagues then? You just know dickhead Dave will try strike a deal so we can't join and gets the votes of football fans. After all his high flying Aston villa aren't going reach Europe anytime soon Yes, but West Ham (who he sometimes thinks he supports because they wear similar colours) could well qualify for Europe so I think Dave will let our European football competion participation continue for a while yet. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 8, 2016 11:40:33 GMT
Europe would be ace and I actually think if we can tie Arnie down and then add from there we should be able to do quite well in it. The squad would need to be stronger, it's not strong enough now and we'd need better players down the spine either starting (CB and ST) or as cover (CM). Also if we got into Europe I think we'd need two proper wide men for competition, we could do with one now as well but the need would be even greater with the extra games. |
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 8, 2016 11:40:45 GMT
You just know dickhead Dave will try strike a deal so we can't join and gets the votes of football fans. After all his high flying Aston villa aren't going reach Europe anytime soon Yes, but West Ham (who he sometimes thinks he supports because they wear similar colours) could well qualify for Europe so I think Dave will let our European football competion participation continue for a while yet. It doesn't matter anyway. When villa get relegated he can be like those unwashed bastards and have a "prem" team ???? |
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Post by adamsson on Mar 8, 2016 11:48:02 GMT
So how do Norway, Switzerland, Israel and Russia (non of whom are in the EU) manage to play in the Champions and Europa Leagues then? You just know dickhead Dave will try strike a deal so we can't join and gets the votes of football fans. After all his high flying Aston villa aren't going reach Europe anytime soon Why do think the vote is in the middle of the European championships?  |
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Post by metalhead on Mar 8, 2016 11:50:40 GMT
I said last season that aiming for Europe would be too much. This season? No. I think that's what we should aim for. That's not to say I would be disappointed if we didn't get it. I think we've had a great season. We've embarrassed a number of the big guns, and it's clear that we're starting to get noticed. I think had Imbula been signed in the summer, we'd be several points higher, but assuming we can keep Arnie, Bojan, Shaqiri, Afellay, next season could be monumental!
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Post by TinkerT on Mar 8, 2016 11:58:36 GMT
You just know dickhead Dave will try strike a deal so we can't join and gets the votes of football fans. After all his high flying Aston villa aren't going reach Europe anytime soon Why do think the vote is in the middle of the European championships? Because England will be out by then ???? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 8, 2016 12:00:34 GMT
Europe would be ace and I actually think if we can tie Arnie down and then add from there we should be able to do quite well in it. The squad would need to be stronger, it's not strong enough now and we'd need better players down the spine either starting (CB and ST) or as cover (CM). Also if we got into Europe I think we'd need two proper wide men for competition, we could do with one now as well but the need would be even greater with the extra games. I think one would be enough but with a younger one behind them (Moha???). |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 8, 2016 12:17:23 GMT
Champions League or GTFO.
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Post by alster on Mar 8, 2016 12:24:54 GMT
I do get exactly what you mean in that regard, I agree it would aid retention and recruitment and I'm not that fussed about it not because of lack of ambition rather just because I think it's a bit of a shit competition. Even the Champions league to a lesser extent involves playing against no mark opposition. I'm not one who pines for the days of only Champions playing in a straight knockout tournament. I just want to see the best teams playing each other. I'd prefer more places to the big leagues and a redefined UEFA that only included real European federations. Russia and all those weird places that used to be Russia are not in Europe, fook them of to play in Asia. One part (who is the most developed and has more population that other part) of Russia is in Europe, another in Asia. I simply don't see a point why we should play in Asian League or whatever it's called. When USSR was existed (it was, obviously, bigger country with Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc), we were in UEFA and we were the 1st champions of EUROPE, not Asia. I was not arguing the facts of the matter I was proposing change. I know you're in UEFA along with Israel and a bunch of other former Eastern bloc countries. My proposal was to chuck you all out. If you don't want to play with the Asians you could form your own Eastern Partly European version FA and play in that. It's not that I mind playing the Russians, you've got some proper teams it's all the baggage that comes with you loads of backward little countries getting European spots with teams below the standard of Port Vale. It's just as bad if not worse with International football you have to play San Marino it's not even a fookin country for gods sake. Competitive football whoever you play is great but in a crowded fixture calendar I just can't do with all the pointless fixtures against no mark opposition from all these newly invented or even fictitious nations. I know I'm ranting but it's just something that really grips my shit. |
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Post by stokiejoe on Mar 8, 2016 12:32:19 GMT
Simple answer for me. I like cake, but I would prefer that cake to have icing on it. Not having icing doesn't mean I don't enjoy the cake, just that I would enjoy it even more with the icing.
Same with football, Premier League is the cake, additional competitions including European are the icing.
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