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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Mar 1, 2016 14:45:33 GMT
We will never ever eliminate diving and "leaving a trailing leg" until penalties are correctly given when the player does not go down.
If you stay up, despite being impeded, you don't get a penalty, even if you shank your shot a mile wide as a result of being off balance.
Look at the goal that wins City the league with practically the last kick of the season a few years back, Aguero stays on his feet when he IS fouled. He finishes it but had he missed because he was impeded he's cost his team a penalty for the title because as soon as he chooses to stay up he effectively forgoes a clear foul. That's what can be at stake.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 1, 2016 14:47:21 GMT
So often we see forwards who go down after no contact from the opposing defender but their trailing leg then manages to make contact with the defenders leg or body. My question is simply this.... The contact was deliberate by the attacking player in order to get said penalty and even though " contact was made " it should never have been awarded and the referee shouldn't have awarded it. He was simply conned Am I right or wrong? Should be a red card offence! |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 1, 2016 14:58:36 GMT
We will never ever eliminate diving and "leaving a trailing leg" until penalties are correctly given when the player does not go down. If you stay up, despite being impeded, you don't get a penalty, even if you shank your shot a mile wide as a result of being off balance. Look at the goal that wins City the league with practically the last kick of the season a few years back, Aguero stays on his feet when he IS fouled. He finishes it but had he missed because he was impeded he's cost his team a penalty for the title because as soon as he chooses to stay up he effectively forgoes a clear foul. That's what can be at stake. that sir is an excellent point!!!! grips my shit the way ref's seem to think that if you try to stay on your feet you therefore shouldn't be given a spot kick! we call out for players to be honest and trustworthy but why would they be when if they are, they're penalised for it by not being awarded a pen/free kick because they've done the honest thing and still at least tried to carry on. |
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 1, 2016 15:09:34 GMT
You are right, old people like me call it cheating, younger people call it winning a penalty. A moral dilemma as it may be considered "Your Job" to use any tactics to win a game for your team as that is what you are paid for. It was noted by Venger of all people that Barca players always "Shouted Out " as they were fouled to make sure the Ref knew about it For me I'd rather lose than cheat, what is more worrying is that so called "Top Teams" are obviously coaching this to the extent that it has become accepted practice and part of the game. Crossover lines of an enjoyable sport played for enjoyment becoming a job , played for cash. I would rather lose than cheat as well, to "win" by cheating is a hollow victory in my mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 20:13:36 GMT
Expanding the the argument even further...... Can a foul be awarded if no contact whatsoever has been made .....?
There are plenty of examples of this too .!I would imagine that soon it will be ok as they will be entitled to go down because the defender used "Harsh Words" and the crowd "questioned his parentage"
In a crafty attempt to pre-empt this Stoke City have put stickers on chairs www.stokesentinel.co.uk/swearing-Stoke-fans-asked-mind-language/story-28809993-detail/story.html and plan to swap Delilah for which has the desired effect on the Bothen during these trials.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 21:47:45 GMT
Was that a trailing leg, or the very clever kicking the back of your own leg as you're running to perfectly replicate the jerky movement of someone genuinely legging you up? I think he may have done it in a cup game against the Vale as well. Both perfectly acceptable in those circumstances. It's on YouTube, he goes over the foot but then his trailing leg brushes the defender. It's a dive imo, but who gives a shit  I'm obviously thinking of a different penalty. I don'think this fits either of our descriptions. It's just a blatant dive. But when it's against the Argies, all you can do is say "Well done Michael." |
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 2, 2016 4:08:06 GMT
Sometimes the anti diving thing borders on puritanical.
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