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Post by bookofsouls23 on Feb 21, 2016 1:44:32 GMT
Looking back the only thing that was better in the 70's was the music.and probably the the comedy programmes definitely. But what is better now. Standard of living. The clothes,the flares,the kipper ties. Wages. Health and safety in the 70's very invisible. But I will ask the question to you guys. What was better in the 70's then now.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 21, 2016 2:56:36 GMT
The Summers?
I don't know, I give up.
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What absolute twaddle.
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Post by corky on Feb 21, 2016 3:03:42 GMT
Everything was better in the 70's. Well, it certainly was if you were a kid. Much, much less parental supervision, lying down to go to sleep on the back seat of our car duing long drives through Europe on camping holidays, 12 kids squashed into a Datsun Bluebird after footy practice, snooker and darts players drinking beer and smoking fags whilst playing in world championships, constant black-outs during power cuts that meant you could play with torches throughout the entire house, no mobile phones, Punk, Tiswas, the summer of 1976, fish and chips in newspaper, playing on building sites, being only 3 years old and being given the important job of holding onto my baby brother's cot (with him in it) to stop it sliding about the back of my dad's van, ha'penny chews and cigarette sweets, diving in to swimming pools, milk being delivered to your doorstep with tin foil lids that blue tits learnt to peck through, and football boots with screw-in studs (that kept falling out). Oh yeah, and old fellers telling you how'd they'd fought in two world wars for everything from the NHS to the right to drive home from the pub after 'several ales' (my nan's next door neighbour who lost a leg in WW1 and therefore couldn't even drive!). Best of all was my Nan's house with no telly, an outside lav and robins that used to come in the back door and eat off her kitchen table. And conkers. The only truely awful thing was racism (which nobody even noticed - which perhaps made it all the worse).
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 21, 2016 6:04:01 GMT
Well the 1970s are my earliest memories, and the phrase 'the past is a foreign country' really does apply. Me and my mates were poor as church mice, but they were really happy times as a kid. Exploring derelict buildings, 20 a side football, street games, den building, fishing for sticklebacks, begging Copes of Newcastle for motorbike posters, collecting bottles for their deposit value, My first ride on the back of a motorbike, my first Stoke game. Endless boring Sunday's, My dad would come back after a Sunday lunch session and fall asleep in front of the 'High Chaperal', helping Mum with the Sunday lunch ( I was always hungry between meals), my sister listening to The Jam and ELO, and my older brothers smelling of Two Stroke after an afternoon riding on their motorbikes. My street was full of war heroes who'd done everything to Dunkirk, D-Day, Arnhem, North Africa. I remember my clothes often had holes in them, but their were always plenty of hand me downs. One last thing, my Dad is 78 and I fully intend to make him sit on a kerb outside our local with a Coke and a bag of smiths crisps!
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 21, 2016 9:12:17 GMT
6' Snowdrifts
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Post by felonious on Feb 21, 2016 9:22:13 GMT
Well the 1970s are my earliest memories, and the phrase 'the past is a foreign country' really does apply. Me and my mates were poor as church mice, but they were really happy times as a kid. Exploring derelict buildings, 20 a side football, street games, den building, fishing for sticklebacks, begging Copes of Newcastle for motorbike posters, collecting bottles for their deposit value, My first ride on the back of a motorbike, my first Stoke game. Endless boring Sunday's, My dad would come back after a Sunday lunch session and fall asleep in front of the 'High Chaperal', helping Mum with the Sunday lunch ( I was always hungry between meals), my sister listening to The Jam and ELO, and my older brothers smelling of Two Stroke after an afternoon riding on their motorbikes. My street was full of war heroes who'd done everything to Dunkirk, D-Day, Arnhem, North Africa. I remember my clothes often had holes in them, but their were always plenty of hand me downs. One last thing, my Dad is 78 and I fully intend to make him sit on a kerb outside our local with a Coke and a bag of smiths crisps! You and Corky have pretty much covered most of it apart from the dam and den building. Those wonderful free unsupervised days out fishing with pop, crisps and cold toast. Being able to cross the M6 with full fishing gear
Music will never be bettered Bowie, Roxy, 10cc the list is endless.
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 21, 2016 9:27:17 GMT
Well the 1970s are my earliest memories, and the phrase 'the past is a foreign country' really does apply. Me and my mates were poor as church mice, but they were really happy times as a kid. Exploring derelict buildings, 20 a side football, street games, den building, fishing for sticklebacks, begging Copes of Newcastle for motorbike posters, collecting bottles for their deposit value, My first ride on the back of a motorbike, my first Stoke game. Endless boring Sunday's, My dad would come back after a Sunday lunch session and fall asleep in front of the 'High Chaperal', helping Mum with the Sunday lunch ( I was always hungry between meals), my sister listening to The Jam and ELO, and my older brothers smelling of Two Stroke after an afternoon riding on their motorbikes. My street was full of war heroes who'd done everything to Dunkirk, D-Day, Arnhem, North Africa. I remember my clothes often had holes in them, but their were always plenty of hand me downs. One last thing, my Dad is 78 and I fully intend to make him sit on a kerb outside our local with a Coke and a bag of smiths crisps! You and Corky have pretty much covered most of it apart from the dam and den building. Those wonderful free unsupervised days out fishing with pop, crisps and cold toast. Being able to cross the M6 with full fishing gear
Music will never be bettered Bowie, Roxy, 10cc the list is endless.
That's a pretty shit list considering what you had to choose from
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 21, 2016 9:36:08 GMT
It's funny how, historically, the 1970s were a time of Strife, strikes, hyper inflation etc. Yet most folk with memories of that era, whether they be working class or more well off, seem to have happy memories. Particularly if you were growing up in that decade. If anyone hasn't read Dominic Sandbrooks books about the UK in the 1970s, then they're really worth checking out. The TV series based on the books is on you tube, it's well worth a look. His theory on the rise of football hooliganism is one I agree with for example.
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Post by felonious on Feb 21, 2016 9:37:46 GMT
You and Corky have pretty much covered most of it apart from the dam and den building. Those wonderful free unsupervised days out fishing with pop, crisps and cold toast. Being able to cross the M6 with full fishing gear
Music will never be bettered Bowie, Roxy, 10cc the list is endless.
That's a pretty shit list considering what you had to choose from Go on then Harry have a go, all three pushed the boundaries.
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Post by felonious on Feb 21, 2016 9:41:46 GMT
It's funny how, historically, the 1970s were a time of Strife, strikes, hyper inflation etc. Yet most folk with memories of that era, whether they be working class or more well off, seem to have happy memories. Particularly if you were growing up in that decade. If anyone hasn't read Dominic Sandbrooks book about the UK in the 1970s, then they're really worth checking out. The TV series based on the books is on you tube, it's well worth a look. His theory on the rise of football hooliganism is one I agree with for example. Will have a look for them. You can understand why Thatcher came to power thinking back on the strikes and strife as you say.
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Post by turtlefox on Feb 21, 2016 9:46:12 GMT
Being able to buy your own house with an average job.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 21, 2016 9:51:04 GMT
Being able to buy your own house with an average job. I've worked with couples who bought nice houses by being employed by Wedgwood all their working lives. Their university educated, professional children can't even afford a house in the same area. On a similar theme, I think social mobility was greater for the working classes in the 70s. You could really improve your lot if you put the effort in. I rather feel that these opportunities are almost non existent now, and bright children from poor homes are failed.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Feb 21, 2016 10:26:22 GMT
That's a pretty shit list considering what you had to choose from Go on then Harry have a go, all three pushed the boundaries. Of what? Good taste?
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Post by andrewguk on Feb 21, 2016 10:48:04 GMT
I was born in 85
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 10:54:17 GMT
Sunday dinners, bass, amphetamines and cucumber with onions in vinegar but not necessarily in that order. The cucumber and onions are still ok
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Post by salopstick on Feb 21, 2016 12:23:43 GMT
Sense of community
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 13:05:49 GMT
Looking back the only thing that was better in the 70's was the music.and probably the the comedy programmes definitely. But what is better now. Standard of living. The clothes,the flares,the kipper ties. Wages. Health and safety in the 70's very invisible. But I will ask the question to you guys. What was better in the 70's then now. My bike was better. Back in the 70s it was a puch minisprint then a chopper. and now it's an argos mountain bike
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 21, 2016 13:27:58 GMT
It's funny how, historically, the 1970s were a time of Strife, strikes, hyper inflation etc. Yet most folk with memories of that era, whether they be working class or more well off, seem to have happy memories. Particularly if you were growing up in that decade. If anyone hasn't read Dominic Sandbrooks books about the UK in the 1970s, then they're really worth checking out. The TV series based on the books is on you tube, it's well worth a look. His theory on the rise of football hooliganism is one I agree with for example. Seems to have been deleted. What is his theory on the rise of hooliganism...
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 21, 2016 13:40:27 GMT
As I remember it, more older guys chose to do other things with their spare time than attending football matches because of increasing affluence. This removed a natural hierarchy at the match, that left a younger generation un mentored and free to do what they wanted ( ie violence). I'm not saying that's the only reason, but it must have been a factor. I certainly remember Stoke crowds in the 80s being overwhelmingly young and male. A quick look outside the Brit on match day shows how that has changed.
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Post by redstriper on Feb 21, 2016 13:42:27 GMT
Stoke City, were better in the 70's - for most of them anyway, and comedies seemed funnier.
Almost everything else I rely on is better now.
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Post by desman2 on Feb 21, 2016 13:47:54 GMT
70s definately. Good fashions, Great music, Good TV (no reality shit), Less me me me, No PC crap, Great footy, Perfect
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 21, 2016 14:20:43 GMT
All the good things mentioned were still going strong during the 80's & even 90's. It's only been since the turn of the Millenium & the Americanisation of our country that it's started to go downhill.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 21, 2016 15:11:38 GMT
Baader Meinhof Gang
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 21, 2016 15:25:52 GMT
Anybody who lived through the summer of 1976 will know that the 70's were better.
The only downside for me was my mum went off to New York to visit her sister for 3 weeks which meant we had to put up with the old mans cooking.
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Post by Linx on Feb 21, 2016 15:53:17 GMT
Bad points: Shitty unreliable cars that rusted. Times were more violent, especially school and football matches. Kids could buy fireworks, which meant that October to December was loud and dangerous. Food was crap. Clothes and fashion were crap. Hair styles were crap. Keg beer ruled (Double Diamond, Watneys Red Barrel, Ansells, M&B) and it was all crap; it was the 70s that saw the massive shift to lager drinking, and who could blame us? The floating pound, the strikes, the blackouts, the oil crisis, the sugar shortage, massive inflation.
Good points: Dad's Army, FA Cup finals that were a family event, Morecambe & Wise, long hot summers, playing outside with your mates all day. Stoke were a top five team for a while but were also relegated in the same decade.
I think I prefer today.
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 21, 2016 16:22:34 GMT
That's a pretty shit list considering what you had to choose from Go on then Harry have a go, all three pushed the boundaries. How about led Zeppelin for pushing boundaries. Boundaries are all well and good but at the end of the day good taste counts as well . Pink floyd as well . Bowie would be on the list as well , The Clash , The Who , Hendrix ,ELP, how am I doing ? oh and Kate bush of course
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 21, 2016 16:25:30 GMT
Bad points: Shitty unreliable cars that rusted. Times were more violent, especially school and football matches. Kids could buy fireworks, which meant that October to December was loud and dangerous. Food was crap. Clothes and fashion were crap. Hair styles were crap. Keg beer ruled (Double Diamond, Watneys Red Barrel, Ansells, M&B) and it was all crap; it was the 70s that saw the massive shift to lager drinking, and who could blame us? The floating pound, the strikes, the blackouts, the oil crisis, the sugar shortage, massive inflation. Good points: Dad's Army, FA Cup finals that were a family event, Morecambe & Wise, long hot summers, playing outside with your mates all day. Stoke were a top five team for a while but were also relegated in the same decade. I think I prefer today. Sounds like you were too old ,too young or much too sensible Linx . Despite all of your negative points the 70s was a great decade
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 21, 2016 16:28:43 GMT
Looking back the only thing that was better in the 70's was the music.and probably the the comedy programmes definitely. But what is better now. Standard of living. The clothes,the flares,the kipper ties. Wages. Health and safety in the 70's very invisible. But I will ask the question to you guys. What was better in the 70's then now. My bike was better. Back in the 70s it was a puch minisprint then a chopper. and now it's an argos mountain bike I bet your puch was better than my NSU ( no sodding use ) , but it was a good starting point . Loved my old triumph though
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 21, 2016 16:30:50 GMT
Armed Robberies. We all had to switch to bank accounts to stop hard cash being moved around the streets of Britain on a Friday, such was our dependence on the brown wage packet
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Post by Billybigbollox on Feb 21, 2016 16:45:45 GMT
My bike was better. Back in the 70s it was a puch minisprint then a chopper. and now it's an argos mountain bike I bet your puch was better than my NSU ( no sodding use ) , but it was a good starting point . Loved my old triumph though Or Non Specific Urethritis as they call it down the clinic Harry.
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