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Post by cousindupree on Feb 16, 2016 18:59:19 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35587212Based on the moanings of the likes of Klopp and other clubs that qualify for Europe. Cup replays are often the lifeblood of lower league teams. FFS who cares that the so called top teams have too many fixtures they have huge squads who can cope with the games. If they don't like the cups then let them decide not to enter! Midweek FA Cup games WTF!!! Makes me feckin angry the pandering to the mega rich clubs!
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Post by leicspotter on Feb 16, 2016 19:55:54 GMT
You're really missing the point here aren't you? With all these cup games and potential replays the top clubs don't have time to jet off to China for a nice little earner rest  |
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Post by metalhead on Feb 16, 2016 20:22:17 GMT
More awful ideas from the FA, and let's bet all the big teams get home fixtures nearly every round.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 20:26:13 GMT
I can see some points.
2 legs in the semi final of the league cup isn't necessary as it can be played at a ground in between both clubs and split the gate.
There are a lot games around Xmas when other leagues have a break and these teams are ahead of premier league teams when they play champions league ties.
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Post by thestokielad on Feb 16, 2016 20:28:37 GMT
What we need is fucking safe standing areas
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Post by desman2 on Feb 16, 2016 20:29:55 GMT
The clubs in the football league play 46 games plus cup games plus play offs if they get there plus autoglass in the bottom tiers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 20:32:53 GMT
The clubs in the football league play 46 games plus cup games plus play offs if they get there plus autoglass in the bottom tiers. But they don't play in World Cup's and euros everyother year do they. |
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Post by liam007 on Feb 16, 2016 20:37:56 GMT
Making the FA Cup a mid-week competition is a awful idea.And get rid of that dam pink ball.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 20:42:27 GMT
I think the winner of the FA Cup should get a champions league spot (or the runners up if he winners already quality) - if they can be given another slot of course.
They somehow need need to get the spice back into the FA Cup as not many bigger teams are that arsed if they get knocked out if it.
Making it midweek is a piss poor idea - I bet it was one of Woy's great interventions
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Feb 16, 2016 20:55:23 GMT
How about making the European cup straight knockout again plenty of time for domestic cups then.
Oh no forgot doesn't suit the big clubs does it.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 16, 2016 21:00:03 GMT
The BBC seems to be more in love with Klopp than the newspapers are with Wenger.
Everything he utters seems to get posted on the Beeb website no matter how much arse gravy comes out of that incredibly mediocre managers mouth.
His job is to manage Liverpool Football Club NOT to tell us everything that is wrong with English society.
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Post by no1972 on Feb 16, 2016 21:37:28 GMT
There are a few problems,the FA used to run the game from top to bottom,until the monster of the premier league was born,the 20 team club does not give a hoot about the lower league clubs,all premiership clubs including our own think the FA cup is a second rate compertion .With all the money in the Prem next year each club could put 10 million each into the football league,giving the FA cup winners a champions league place will not happen as it will devalue the Prem.My solution scap the Prem,get rid of all the TVs rights so we are not slaves to the TVs companies.lets get back to when football was a sport,and I live in cloud cuckoo land where we all become greedy bastards.
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Post by lordb on Feb 16, 2016 21:43:08 GMT
There are a few problems,the FA used to run the game from top to bottom,until the monster of the premier league was born,the 20 team club does not give a hoot about the lower league clubs,all premiership clubs including our own think the FA cup is a second rate compertion .With all the money in the Prem next year each club could put 10 million each into the football league,giving the FA cup winners a champions league place will not happen as it will devalue the Prem.My solution scap the Prem,get rid of all the TVs rights so we are not slaves to the TVs companies.lets get back to when football was a sport,and I live in cloud cuckoo land where we all become greedy bastards. Not quite right. The FA and the Football League had been a thorn in each others side for a century. The FA saw the Premier League as an opportunity to usurp the League. |
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Post by DentySCFC on Feb 16, 2016 21:45:47 GMT
I wouldn't agree with getting rid of replays, but the two clubs could be given a choice of whether to have one before and if they can't agree then replay it is.
Also, there is no need to have a two legged league cup semi-final, play it at Old Trafford or Villa Park.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 16, 2016 23:23:15 GMT
I can see some points. 2 legs in the semi final of the league cup isn't necessary as it can be played at a ground in between both clubs and split the gate. There are a lot games around Xmas when other leagues have a break and these teams are ahead of premier league teams when they play champions league ties. But top teams play squad players in the cup anyway. Its the only the manager who doesn't get the rest |
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Post by wrighter on Feb 16, 2016 23:35:45 GMT
I blame Kitson
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Post by salopstick on Feb 16, 2016 23:41:07 GMT
I like history and I like tradition but you need to create new traditions for modern times. Two things I'd change for the FA cup
Semis at the millennium. Cardiff did the FA a favour by hosting finals for the rebuild. The FA could move the semis to Cardiff keeping the final a special day at Wembley.
Before the 2006 World Cup the 1/4 finals were held in a spare week one each day Monday to Thursday. It freed up a Saturday thus ending the season a week early. All games were televised it was good. This was a new tradition they could and should have kept
And FFS the final should be a 3pm kick off the Saturday after the league season ends
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Post by salopstick on Feb 16, 2016 23:41:54 GMT
I can see some points. 2 legs in the semi final of the league cup isn't necessary as it can be played at a ground in between both clubs and split the gate. There are a lot games around Xmas when other leagues have a break and these teams are ahead of premier league teams when they play champions league ties. i couldn't care less about the champs league |
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Post by wrighter on Feb 16, 2016 23:45:51 GMT
Semi finals @ Villa Park, Hillsboro, Old Trafford etc
Final Wembley @ 3pm 15.00hrs or 3 o" clock !!!!! NOT @ 5pm FFS
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Post by mumf on Feb 17, 2016 0:37:06 GMT
The Premiership and FA have only only one agenda .
It's called money and profit .
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 17, 2016 6:50:30 GMT
In the League Cup winning season of 71-72 Stoke played 71 competative games in 5 competitions. Oh with a 25 man squad on muddy sometimes quagmire pitches. So I rest my case regarding fixture congestion. Also agree with all the sentiments on here about 3pm Final kick off after the league season has ended, FA cup semi final venues, replays etc etc. In fact I would go one further and scrap penalty shoot outs and just keep,replaying until a winner emerges. What I would scrap is the meaningless International Friendly and World Cup qualifying weekends that leaves a void in the hearts of many fans.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 17, 2016 7:05:09 GMT
We need more football, not less.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 17, 2016 7:20:24 GMT
They should have penno shootouts before cup ties. That way both sides would know who goes through if it's a drawn game.
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Post by mumf on Feb 17, 2016 9:18:41 GMT
I agree that there should be shootouts ....but only amongst those who sit on the top table ....a sort of cull .
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 17, 2016 9:26:36 GMT
The only part of that i agree with is a single game for "The League" cup at a neutral venue.
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Feb 17, 2016 12:55:26 GMT
1. Make the champions league as it implies, for champions of their leagues. Forget the group stages, and make it a straight knock out.
I notice that there are 4 ties this week, 4 next week then they have got the 2nd legs, so basically that takes up 4 weeks.
Don't let the teams in champions league and Europa league in the FA Cup or league cup.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 19:06:40 GMT
Semi finals @ Villa Park, Hillsboro, Old Trafford etc Final Wembley @ 3pm 15.00hrs or 3 o" clock !!!!! NOT @ 5pm FFS This |
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Post by StokieNath on Feb 19, 2016 19:20:31 GMT
Semi finals @ Villa Park, Hillsboro, Old Trafford etc Final Wembley @ 3pm 15.00hrs or 3 o" clock !!!!! NOT @ 5pm FFS This and a Saturday, Fuck Sunday games let alone an Fa cup final |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 19, 2016 23:04:24 GMT
Do we need the replays? Couldn't it all be decided on the night if it's a draw after extra time?  |
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Post by hammered on Feb 20, 2016 0:58:25 GMT
Interesting......similar thread on Kumb with exactly the same musings.
For my peneths if Klopp or anyone else isn't happy with replay's or the extra games the FA Cup generates or compromises League or Euro competition then win first attempt or get knocked out by not trying but don't whine when one of the few financial benefits club's down the league pyramid get for giving their all and defying the odds - a replay at a big club creates a financial windfall which keeps many small club's in business and the competition honest.
And while we're at it - semis at neutral grounds (Wembley should be for the final only played at 3pm) and if the under-performing expectant big club's (Liverpool, Salford, Juventus etc.) fearing their European gravy train is under threat from the likes of little Leicester or similar want to create a Euro Super League with no relegation or financial loss for not being in it - then just f--k off from the domestic leagues and Cups altogether and let the rest of us get on with it.
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