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Post by gingerninja on Feb 8, 2016 10:34:47 GMT
From now until the rest of the season. He is the striker who best suits our style or what I think we are aiming for. He links up play well and I think Imbula looks as if he likes to play little give and goes and he can pick a pass and shoot with little or no backlift. Yesterday's little cameo showed what he offers. He is a good age and will develop into a very good and effective player for us.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 8, 2016 10:47:03 GMT
I don't think he's anywhere near the calibre of player to be the lone striker for a mid-table Premier League club,to be honest.
Our striker pecking order is so confused, it's unclear what Hughes thinks.
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Post by PB1863 on Feb 8, 2016 10:51:21 GMT
From now until the rest of the season. He is the striker who best suits our style or what I think we are aiming for. He links up play well and I think Imbula looks as if he likes to play little give and goes and he can pick a pass and shoot with little or no backlift. Yesterday's little cameo showed what he offers. He is a good age and will develop into a very good and effective player for us. Agreed |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 10:53:41 GMT
Got to agree. He should be given a run of games up front. Looks the best we've got to me.
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Post by march4 on Feb 8, 2016 10:53:54 GMT
SJW >> Joselu
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Post by reddipotter on Feb 8, 2016 10:57:39 GMT
Joselu certainly has some skill on the ball, but he wins little in the air and seems to try harder to get away from the penalty area than to get into it. He needs to give opposing centre halves a much harder time than he does if he's to be the main striker.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 8, 2016 11:00:10 GMT
Joselu is terrific on the ball and for me Diouf was all over the place Saturday. None of them played well, but Diouf was just dreadful for me. Shame because I wanted him to prove me wrong.
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Post by foster on Feb 8, 2016 11:11:42 GMT
I agree. Josulu for the rest of the season for me.
The only Striker that has a foreseeable future at the club so get him playing.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Feb 8, 2016 11:13:56 GMT
I agree, I for while now would have told Joselu if he's fit he starts next 5 games. regardless. See what the confidence of knowing he's in the side would do.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 8, 2016 11:17:44 GMT
Joselu must start and Wolly must not!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 8, 2016 11:21:30 GMT
Joselu must start and Wolly must not! Soooooo you're all for Johnny Tex starting then? I'm glad he's got one fan.. |
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Post by Gods on Feb 8, 2016 11:29:24 GMT
He has good ability on the ball but he just seems to get brushed aside too easily, on that basis I am far from convinced he is the man to lead the line.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 8, 2016 11:29:30 GMT
Must be thinking WTF is going on.Did well against Arsenal and. Norwich and the n dropped for Crouch then Sioux comes back from the dead!!. Was Walters injured Saturday?
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Post by nott1 on Feb 8, 2016 11:30:42 GMT
Must be thinking WTF is going on.Did well against Arsenal and. Norwich and the n dropped for Crouch then Sioux comes back from the dead!!. Was Walters injured Saturday? He was ill! |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 8, 2016 11:32:15 GMT
Joselu must start and Wolly must not! Soooooo you're all for Johnny Tex starting then? I'm glad he's got one fan.. Can't possibly be any worse and if he is .....get rid! |
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Post by wuzza on Feb 8, 2016 11:37:56 GMT
Until we get some sort of clarity as to what we are expecting from all our forward players the choice of striker is very difficult. To me Jos has looked fairly anonymous when given the role but that's not to imply Diouf or Walters or Crouch have looked anymore effective. Considering how far we are into the season it's a bit of a mess.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 8, 2016 11:41:44 GMT
Soooooo you're all for Johnny Tex starting then? I'm glad he's got one fan.. Can't possibly be any worse and if he is .....get rid! Can't be any worse than Wolly? I'm starting to lose faith in my fellow Stoke fans. Wolly has been consistently good for the majority of the season and now he makes a couple of mistakes you want rid when we actually can't replace him? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 11:44:54 GMT
Can't possibly be any worse and if he is .....get rid! Can't be any worse than Wolly? I'm starting to lose faith in my fellow Stoke fans. Wolly has been consistently good for the majority of the season and now he makes a couple of mistakes you want rid when we actually can't replace him? This. 'Perspective' could be the key word for the past two weeks. Wolly has been great since mid-Sept, if not longer. |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 8, 2016 11:47:50 GMT
Can't possibly be any worse and if he is .....get rid! Can't be any worse than Wolly? I'm starting to lose faith in my fellow Stoke fans. Wolly has been consistently good for the majority of the season and now he makes a couple of mistakes you want rid when we actually can't replace him? I'm sorry but I just think he is bloody useless, especially without Ryan and I think he will be out of the team next year! |
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Post by alster on Feb 8, 2016 12:18:10 GMT
Can't be any worse than Wolly? I'm starting to lose faith in my fellow Stoke fans. Wolly has been consistently good for the majority of the season and now he makes a couple of mistakes you want rid when we actually can't replace him? I'm sorry but I just think he is bloody useless, especially without Ryan and I think he will be out of the team next year! I've seen enough to tell me he's pretty decent played alongside Ryan so assume he'd be pretty decent alongside any commanding RCB who is also an organiser. I've seen enough to know Muni is much the same. Problem is as a pairing they're fookin awful but we just don't have any fit alternatives right now. |
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Post by DentySCFC on Feb 8, 2016 12:26:06 GMT
Must go straight on the transfer list if anything.
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Post by alster on Feb 8, 2016 12:29:38 GMT
Ought to deal with the topic of the thread. I agree with reddipotter's earlier post that he shows ability on the ball but does not play the position. I'd like to have a look at him if he was told to stop wandering the pitch and lead the line, occupy the centre halves, provide a goal threat.
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Post by andylgr on Feb 8, 2016 12:44:37 GMT
I think SJW offers more in the lone striker position than Joselu.
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Post by Bick on Feb 8, 2016 12:51:45 GMT
Funny thing is that any of our strikers could get an extended run and show themselves to be the best option.
Hughes chops and changes so much that nobody gets the chance to settle.
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Post by tijuanabrass on Feb 8, 2016 13:00:39 GMT
Sioux comes back from the dead!!. Was Walters injured Saturday? That's a 'Brave' statement. Your autocorrect will have people on the 'warpath ' around here.  |
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Post by adamsson on Feb 8, 2016 13:05:59 GMT
I would play him in a front two or behind the striker in a 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1 but he drops far too deep far too often to play a loan striker.
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Post by Godo on Feb 8, 2016 13:08:51 GMT
Agreed. We need to have a settled team and test these players and the formation to destruction. Joselu has got to be told by Hughes that he has the next 6 games as a starter regardless and let's take it from there.
If we are to do the Stokealona thing we need the mobility that only he can provide amongst our striker options BUT he must work the line and prove that he can do the ugly stuff as well.
If Hughes doesn't believe in any of the players then we need to offload them asap and not simply add Joselu to the long list of bench warmers who aren't good enough....we already need to offload half the squad.
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Post by adamsson on Feb 8, 2016 13:12:17 GMT
Agreed. We need to have a settled team and test these players and the formation to destruction. Joselu has got to be told by Hughes that he has the next 6 games as a starter regardless and let's take it from there. If we are to do the Stokealona thing we need the mobility that only he can provide amongst our striker options BUT he must work the line and prove that he can do the ugly stuff as well. If Hughes doesn't believe in any of the players then we need to offload them asap and not simply add Joselu to the long list of bench warmers who aren't good enough....we already need to offload half the squad. That's right fook them all off  |
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Post by owdestokie on Feb 8, 2016 13:24:42 GMT
From now until the rest of the season. He is the striker who best suits our style or what I think we are aiming for. He links up play well and I think Imbula looks as if he likes to play little give and goes and he can pick a pass and shoot with little or no backlift. Yesterday's little cameo showed what he offers. He is a good age and will develop into a very good and effective player for us. There's a difference between a striker and a forward. His goal scoring career is about 1 in 5 which is similar to SJW. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 8, 2016 13:46:05 GMT
I don't think he's anywhere near the calibre of player to be the lone striker for a mid-table Premier League club,to be honest. Our striker pecking order is so confused, it's unclear what Hughes thinks.
I'd stick with Diouf.
Even though he's got a terrible touch and doesn't really seem able to hold the ball up, he's got proper pace, something we are crying out for at the minute.
We really need to play Bojan in the hole behind him, so he can play through balls for Diouf to run on too, Afellay just wasn't even attempting this on Saturday.
Hughes' thinking with regard to strikers does seem confused.
We've got a collection of forwards who can all do a little bit of something but none of them have the all round attributes to be a successful leader of the line in a single striker system. They've each got spectacularly exposed Achilles heel's of some nature.
We need a striker who has pace, is strong and can hold the ball up with his back to the goal and who is good in the air.
We really should be able to find a player with all of these attributes if we do have circa £25 mil to blow on one.
I wouldn't say that Berahino ticks all those boxes though.
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