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Post by blurtonboy on Jul 4, 2016 16:02:35 GMT
No moreFree movement for the people of the EU into the UK after Brexit = Less free trade for the UK after Brexit?
WHY?
Is each & every one who moves here bringing a fucking car or a TV or a washing machine, fridge fucking freezer into the country on their backs, so we can keep on trading? Are they BOLLOCKS.
We will still trade with Europe & also trade with the world, you know that big round thing we live on, that different countries trade with other countries around the big round thing, selling & buying things between each other.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jul 4, 2016 16:36:16 GMT
How are the markets and the £ doing today? £1 bumping along around $1.33 and €1.19. Both significantly weaker than pre Referendum. Looks likely to stabilise around those figures unless there are further shocks. Good for exports but expect rising prices here in time for Christmas. Yippee. FTSE 100 slightly down but still marginally higher than preRef figure. A lot of international companies and speculation on a deal to retain access to the single market going on. Expect a correction if that looks less likely - ie T. May falters in leadership bid. FTSE 250 is a better guide to sentiment re. domestic economy. Bumping along around 16116 down about 7% on preRef figure. Just to ram the point home the UK construction industry performance in June was at it's weakest in 7 years. Construction is a "leading indicator" in economic forecasting. Cameron, Carney and Osborne aren't flapping about abandoning fiscal rules, promising stimulus measures next summer and planning dramatic cuts in corporation tax for no reason. "Interesting" times ahead indeed. ;-)
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 4, 2016 16:38:55 GMT
How are the markets and the £ doing today? £1 bumping along around $1.33 and €1.19. Both significantly weaker than pre Referendum. Looks likely to stabilise around those figures unless there are further shocks. Good for exports but expect rising prices here in time for Christmas. Yippee. FTSE 100 slightly down but still marginally higher than preRef figure. A lot of international companies and speculation on a deal to retain access to the single market going on. Expect a correction if that looks less likely - ie T. May falters in leadership bid. FTSE 250 is a better guide to sentiment re. domestic economy. Bumping along around 16116 down about 7% on preRef figure. Just to ram the point home the UK construction industry performance in June was at it's weakest in 7 years. Construction is a "leading indicator" in economic forecasting. Cameron, Carney and Osborne aren't flapping about abandoning fiscal rules, promising stimulus measures next summer and planning dramatic cuts in corporation tax for no reason. "Interesting" times ahead indeed. ;-) What have June construction figures got to do with Brexit? Construction is planned months , even years ahead in some cases
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 16:43:48 GMT
How are the markets and the £ doing today? £1 bumping along around $1.33 and €1.19. Both significantly weaker than pre Referendum. Looks likely to stabilise around those figures unless there are further shocks. Good for exports but expect rising prices here in time for Christmas. Yippee. FTSE 100 slightly down but still marginally higher than preRef figure. A lot of international companies and speculation on a deal to retain access to the single market going on. Expect a correction if that looks less likely - ie T. May falters in leadership bid. FTSE 250 is a better guide to sentiment re. domestic economy. Bumping along around 16116 down about 7% on preRef figure. Just to ram the point home the UK construction industry performance in June was at it's weakest in 7 years. Construction is a "leading indicator" in economic forecasting. Cameron, Carney and Osborne aren't flapping about abandoning fiscal rules, promising stimulus measures next summer and planning dramatic cuts in corporation tax for no reason. "Interesting" times ahead indeed. ;-) Been shit all year, was in decline way before brexit. It still hasn't recovered from the last recession.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jul 4, 2016 16:49:15 GMT
£1 bumping along around $1.33 and €1.19. Both significantly weaker than pre Referendum. Looks likely to stabilise around those figures unless there are further shocks. Good for exports but expect rising prices here in time for Christmas. Yippee. FTSE 100 slightly down but still marginally higher than preRef figure. A lot of international companies and speculation on a deal to retain access to the single market going on. Expect a correction if that looks less likely - ie T. May falters in leadership bid. FTSE 250 is a better guide to sentiment re. domestic economy. Bumping along around 16116 down about 7% on preRef figure. Just to ram the point home the UK construction industry performance in June was at it's weakest in 7 years. Construction is a "leading indicator" in economic forecasting. Cameron, Carney and Osborne aren't flapping about abandoning fiscal rules, promising stimulus measures next summer and planning dramatic cuts in corporation tax for no reason. "Interesting" times ahead indeed. ;-) What have June construction figures got to do with Brexit? Construction is planned months , even years ahead in some cases The Markit/Cips construction purchasing managers index fell below 50 in June - presumably due to uncertainty as to the referendum result. I don't expect that to pick up soon in the face of an uncertain property market. Construction shares along with the banks are amongst the hardest hit so it's not just me. :-) EDIT yes harry construction is planned months/years ahead. That is why it is considered a leading indicator for forecasting.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 4, 2016 16:56:44 GMT
What have June construction figures got to do with Brexit? Construction is planned months , even years ahead in some cases The Markit/Cips construction purchasing managers index fell below 50 in June - presumably due to uncertainty as to the referendum result. I don't expect that to pick up soon in the face of an uncertain property market. Construction shares along with the banks are amongst the hardest hit so it's not just me. :-) EDIT yes harry construction is planned months/years ahead. That is why it is considered a leading indicator for forecasting. Look nobody saw brexit coming , not even the brexit politicians
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jul 4, 2016 17:01:52 GMT
The Markit/Cips construction purchasing managers index fell below 50 in June - presumably due to uncertainty as to the referendum result. I don't expect that to pick up soon in the face of an uncertain property market. Construction shares along with the banks are amongst the hardest hit so it's not just me. :-) EDIT yes harry construction is planned months/years ahead. That is why it is considered a leading indicator for forecasting. Look nobody saw brexit coming , not even the brexit politicians It's the uncertainty that acts as a drag on the economy and we have plenty of uncertainty to get through yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 17:02:17 GMT
How are the markets and the £ doing today? £1 bumping along around $1.33 and €1.19. Both significantly weaker than pre Referendum. Looks likely to stabilise around those figures unless there are further shocks. Good for exports but expect rising prices here in time for Christmas. Yippee. FTSE 100 slightly down but still marginally higher than preRef figure. A lot of international companies and speculation on a deal to retain access to the single market going on. Expect a correction if that looks less likely - ie T. May falters in leadership bid. FTSE 250 is a better guide to sentiment re. domestic economy. Bumping along around 16116 down about 7% on preRef figure. Just to ram the point home the UK construction industry performance in June was at it's weakest in 7 years. Construction is a "leading indicator" in economic forecasting. Cameron, Carney and Osborne aren't flapping about abandoning fiscal rules, promising stimulus measures next summer and planning dramatic cuts in corporation tax for no reason. "Interesting" times ahead indeed. ;-) And how are you doing?
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jul 4, 2016 17:05:45 GMT
£1 bumping along around $1.33 and €1.19. Both significantly weaker than pre Referendum. Looks likely to stabilise around those figures unless there are further shocks. Good for exports but expect rising prices here in time for Christmas. Yippee. FTSE 100 slightly down but still marginally higher than preRef figure. A lot of international companies and speculation on a deal to retain access to the single market going on. Expect a correction if that looks less likely - ie T. May falters in leadership bid. FTSE 250 is a better guide to sentiment re. domestic economy. Bumping along around 16116 down about 7% on preRef figure. Just to ram the point home the UK construction industry performance in June was at it's weakest in 7 years. Construction is a "leading indicator" in economic forecasting. Cameron, Carney and Osborne aren't flapping about abandoning fiscal rules, promising stimulus measures next summer and planning dramatic cuts in corporation tax for no reason. "Interesting" times ahead indeed. ;-) And how are you doing? You did ask! I'm doing fine mate. :-)
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Post by desman2 on Jul 4, 2016 17:40:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 17:46:15 GMT
You did ask! I'm doing fine mate. :-) It was a genuine question mate, I've never checked. Sky still above us?
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jul 4, 2016 18:07:10 GMT
What have June construction figures got to do with Brexit? Construction is planned months , even years ahead in some cases The Markit/Cips construction purchasing managers index fell below 50 in June - presumably due to uncertainty as to the referendum result. I don't expect that to pick up soon in the face of an uncertain property market. Construction shares along with the banks are amongst the hardest hit so it's not just me. :-) EDIT yes harry construction is planned months/years ahead. That is why it is considered a leading indicator for forecasting. And yet the local brickworks have got lead times pushing 12months.....
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 4, 2016 18:22:37 GMT
The Markit/Cips construction purchasing managers index fell below 50 in June - presumably due to uncertainty as to the referendum result. I don't expect that to pick up soon in the face of an uncertain property market. Construction shares along with the banks are amongst the hardest hit so it's not just me. :-) EDIT yes harry construction is planned months/years ahead. That is why it is considered a leading indicator for forecasting. And yet the local brickworks have got lead times pushing 12months..... I've been to two builders merchants for Windows last week, left'em my measurements & everything. £@#&ers won't even get back to me. Useless
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jul 4, 2016 18:31:27 GMT
Ring Jeff Thorpe at Jewson at Talke 785933 tell him Baz sent ya...... I used to own it.....
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 4, 2016 18:40:27 GMT
So telly tonight....
Why we voted to Leave: Britain speaks with Adrain Chiles BBC 1 19.30
Brexit: What does it mean? ITV1 20.00
Nation Divided. Sky News 21.00 "how the seismic effects of Brexit have opened up fault lines across UK society"
Media agenda ??
My choice: The Blair Rich Project. Channel 5 20.00
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Post by felonious on Jul 4, 2016 19:00:41 GMT
You did ask! I'm doing fine mate. :-) It was a genuine question mate, I've never checked. Sky still above us? Some posters have got beyond Key stage one Mary
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 19:05:25 GMT
It was a genuine question mate, I've never checked. Sky still above us? Some posters have got beyond Key stage one Mary Just testing
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jul 5, 2016 11:40:08 GMT
Michael Dougan, professor of European law at the University of Liverpool, has been giving evidence to the Commons Treasury committee this morning about Brexit.
Prof. Michael Dougan: "EFTA countries can be taken to EFTA court by EFTA surveillance authority. Judgements are binding in international law."
This means that if the UK adopted a Norway-style arrangement that involved membership of EFTA (the European Free Trade Association) it would still be subject to the decisions of a foreign court.
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Post by yeokel on Jul 5, 2016 12:30:16 GMT
Michael Dougan, professor of European law at the University of Liverpool, has been giving evidence to the Commons Treasury committee this morning about Brexit.
Prof. Michael Dougan: "EFTA countries can be taken to EFTA court by EFTA surveillance authority. Judgements are binding in international law."
This means that if the UK adopted a Norway-style arrangement that involved membership of EFTA (the European Free Trade Association) it would still be subject to the decisions of a foreign court.
But we wouldn't be subject to 'ever closer political and monetary union' which has 'disaster' written all over it.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jul 5, 2016 12:42:15 GMT
Michael Dougan, professor of European law at the University of Liverpool, has been giving evidence to the Commons Treasury committee this morning about Brexit.
Prof. Michael Dougan: "EFTA countries can be taken to EFTA court by EFTA surveillance authority. Judgements are binding in international law."
This means that if the UK adopted a Norway-style arrangement that involved membership of EFTA (the European Free Trade Association) it would still be subject to the decisions of a foreign court.
But we wouldn't be subject to 'ever closer political and monetary union' which has 'disaster' written all over it. If we end up joining the EFTA it's still not quite the freedom from foreign unelected officials that many of those who voted leave envisaged though.
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Post by trentvale68 on Jul 6, 2016 16:00:15 GMT
An interesting view on the past week
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Post by desman2 on Jul 6, 2016 17:58:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 18:15:37 GMT
Paving the way for us to come back?
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Post by desman2 on Jul 6, 2016 18:18:06 GMT
Paving the way for us to come back? A thought but we are not part of it now so it dosnt really interfere with us
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Post by yeokel on Jul 6, 2016 18:26:21 GMT
Paving the way for us to come back? A thought but we are not part of it now so it dosnt really interfere with us No, but it levels the playing field a little bit in our direction, doesn't it? Admittedly, it is not the 'freedom of movement' which they will demand for in exchange for access to the single market, but it is a small step in our direction I think. The first little crack as evidence of the subsidence underneath.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 6, 2016 21:00:22 GMT
I might be wrong, but doesn't a vote by the European Parliament, mean fuck all?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 6, 2016 21:36:05 GMT
Schengen is only for non-EU nationals. They get one visa for all signed up Schengen states. The UK didn't sign up to the Schengen Agreement. EU nationals still have freedom of movement.
But it does start to readjust 'open border' thinking.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 6, 2016 21:47:45 GMT
Who's going to make it to the 100th page whinge...
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 7, 2016 9:01:39 GMT
Me hopefully.
Walked past the Bureau de Change this morning and the Pound to Euro rate was 1.15 which is bad enough.
Walked past 5 minutes later and it'd gone down to 1.14.
Predicted to go down to 1.07
Hope all the outers going abroad have a really shit time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 9:43:05 GMT
Me hopefully. Walked past the Bureau de Change this morning and the Pound to Euro rate was 1.15 which is bad enough. Walked past 5 minutes later and it'd gone down to 1.14. Predicted to go down to 1.07 Hope all the outers going abroad have a really shit time. No all the outs have always struggled to afford to go abroad.....maybe all those well off that wanted to stay in will soon see how it feels to pick a wage packet up that gets you nowhere
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