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Post by muglump on Feb 7, 2016 15:57:24 GMT
We were shit. Agreed. But I cannot stand 'fans' who have agendas against certain players, and i don't understand it. by all means criticise, they do get paid a lot of money for something we would all do for free, but personal attacks? I will never forget 'people' spitting at and having a go at Lee Chapman (when he was our top scorer). It's petty, small and the only reason people do it on here is because nobody can punch them in the mouth as they deserve.
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Post by alansuddick on Feb 7, 2016 16:01:18 GMT
So you critisise a millionaire footballer , on a forum, and you deserve a punch in the mouth.theres some proper tools on this site
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Feb 7, 2016 16:04:30 GMT
So you critisise a millionaire footballer , on a forum, and you deserve a punch in the mouth.theres some proper tools on this site "by all means criticise, they do get paid a lot of money for something we would all do for free, but personal attacks?" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 16:05:40 GMT
There are some dickheads on this forum but I wouldn't get hung up on it because at the end of the day the vast majority feel the same as you. When the usual suspects spout the usual shit who really cares? Just ignore them
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 7, 2016 16:06:22 GMT
We were shit. Agreed. But I cannot stand 'fans' who have agendas against certain players, and i don't understand it. by all means criticise, they do get paid a lot of money for something we would all do for free, but personal attacks? I will never forget 'people' spitting at and having a go at Lee Chapman (when he was our top scorer). It's petty, small and the only reason people do it on here is because nobody can punch them in the mouth as they deserve. Would never have punched him when he played for Stoke,but would be tempted to now,as he used to beat his spouse religiously and was a serial wife abuser. |
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Post by blurtonboy on Feb 7, 2016 16:08:15 GMT
Is this a Morningmist post?
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Post by muglump on Feb 7, 2016 17:04:10 GMT
So you critisise a millionaire footballer , on a forum, and you deserve a punch in the mouth.theres some proper tools on this site I didn't say don't critcise, it's the vicious small mindedness I find offensive |
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Post by samba :) on Feb 7, 2016 17:09:06 GMT
So you critisise a millionaire footballer , on a forum, and you deserve a punch in the mouth.theres some proper tools on this site That's no where near what he said |
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Post by muglump on Feb 7, 2016 17:40:56 GMT
So you critisise a millionaire footballer , on a forum, and you deserve a punch in the mouth.theres some proper tools on this site That's no where near what he said Never seems to make much difference to some on here - I doubt he would call me a tool to my face, but I bet he shouts it at our own players |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 7, 2016 17:42:26 GMT
I do it at the game.
I do it at home.
I do it in the pub.
I don't really give a fuck.
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Post by capto on Feb 7, 2016 17:48:12 GMT
we should be allowed to criticize - we pay our hard earned money & they should perform to the best of their abilities - they get paid a lot of money & should perform professionally thru out the match - thats what winds supporters up, when their head drops, or they hide, unforced errors etc - however, the criticism has to be as far as poss constructive?
it's no use saying so and so is wank - he's not, he maybe playing above his standard , he maybe out of position, carrying an injury (none of these his fault) - but if they are not putting in 100% when we are playing crap, then you've got to ask if that player is worth his shirt and place and that's a mgmt issue - and there were some yesterday who were not?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 17:53:31 GMT
So if Jack lets an easy in between his legs you want the team to take collective responsibility and no one to criticise him?
Thousands of pounds a week for that piss poor performance and you want to not criticise.
Some players were shit , simple as that, I notice you don't complain about the praise that some players got, only the criticism.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 7, 2016 17:59:41 GMT
HAS ANYONE READ WHAT HE SAID?!?!
He's on about personal attacks, I'm guessing calling them a wanker or whatever, not commenting on a poor performance etc.
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Post by muglump on Feb 7, 2016 18:16:03 GMT
HAS ANYONE READ WHAT HE SAID?!?! He's on about personal attacks, I'm guessing calling them a wanker or whatever, not commenting on a poor performance etc. Exactly this, ffs of course the team deserve criticism but there is a small man mentality which pisses me off. Of course you can say someone played shit, just not every fucking game when they deserve it or not and not personal insults |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 7, 2016 18:21:39 GMT
I'd say the majority of the time it's just born out of frustration, I know I found myself calling everyone wank at some point yesterday whilst swearing at my phone screen repeatedly, but at times this season it has got a bit extreme, particularly the poster who wished Marc Wilson would "fuck off and die".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 18:22:50 GMT
I do it at the game. I do it at home. I do it in the pub. I do it on here and Twitter constantly I spend all my waking hours analysing every single incident to try and "pin the blame" on someone. It's actually started to consume my life I don't really give a fuck. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 7, 2016 18:25:03 GMT
Except for when it's Muniesa at fault, PP, then he comes over all Arsene Wenger & didn't see it  |
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Post by milky on Feb 7, 2016 18:27:39 GMT
Criticism and saying someone has been wank is fair enough. They are fair game in that respect.
Some of the venom towards Wilson and Diouf recently went beyond what's acceptable though however you judge their merits as footballers.
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Post by stokey127 on Feb 7, 2016 18:33:49 GMT
We were shit. Agreed. But I cannot stand 'fans' who have agendas against certain players, and i don't understand it. by all means criticise, they do get paid a lot of money for something we would all do for free, but personal attacks? I will never forget 'people' spitting at and having a go at Lee Chapman (when he was our top scorer). It's petty, small and the only reason people do it on here is because nobody can punch them in the mouth as they deserve. Agreed, we pay good money to follow our team and we all have a welcome to express but personal attacks out of order. |
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Post by muglump on Feb 7, 2016 18:36:22 GMT
We were shit. Agreed. But I cannot stand 'fans' who have agendas against certain players, and i don't understand it. by all means criticise, they do get paid a lot of money for something we would all do for free, but personal attacks? I will never forget 'people' spitting at and having a go at Lee Chapman (when he was our top scorer). It's petty, small and the only reason people do it on here is because nobody can punch them in the mouth as they deserve. Agreed, we pay good money to follow our team and we all have a welcome to express but personal attacks out of order. Thank you for actually reading what I wrote |
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Post by muglump on Feb 7, 2016 18:37:47 GMT
Criticism and saying someone has been wank is fair enough. They are fair game in that respect. Some of the venom towards Wilson and Diouf recently went beyond what's acceptable though however you judge their merits as footballers. Exactly what I meant |
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Post by trincostokie on Feb 7, 2016 18:45:08 GMT
There's no shortage of dickheads in this world, there never has been, so by extension, we've got to expect a rich array of arseholes on any internet forum we choose to frequent.
That doesn't mean that we have to tolerate aggression or abuse, in any form, and some of the comments about a couple of our players have certainly crossed the line.
Lines are always subjective, but I'd be fucking gob-smacked if the vast majority didn't feel a degree of shame and outrage at some of the bilge that's been spouted by the more volatile/less mature minority on here.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 7, 2016 18:46:57 GMT
Except for when it's Muniesa at fault, PP, then he comes over all Arsene Wenger & didn't see it I think it's fair to say Muniesa has received more shit this last couple of days than any other player. |
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Post by Theninjabadger on Feb 7, 2016 18:51:06 GMT
Except for when it's Muniesa at fault, PP, then he comes over all Arsene Wenger & didn't see it I think it's fair to say Muniesa has received more shit this last couple of days than any other player. I don't think you've read the threads on Whelan, Diouff and Arnie then? |
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 7, 2016 18:58:05 GMT
I think it's fair to say Muniesa has received more shit this last couple of days than any other player. I don't think you've read the threads on Whelan, Diouff and Arnie then? I've read them all mate, it's embarrassing. Maybe we could have a new Oatcake thread after very game called 'Blame Game top 5' where people can post 1 - 5 the players they feel were 'shit or 'wank' |
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Post by Theninjabadger on Feb 7, 2016 19:05:07 GMT
I don't think you've read the threads on Whelan, Diouff and Arnie then? I've read them all mate, it's embarrassing. Maybe we could have a new Oatcake thread after very game called 'Blame Game top 5' where people can post 1 - 5 the players they feel were 'shit or 'wank' Embarrassing doesn't quite cover it mate. It's fucking disgraceful |
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Post by alansuddick on Feb 7, 2016 19:06:00 GMT
That's no where near what he said Never seems to make much difference to some on here - I doubt he would call me a tool to my face, but I bet he shouts it at our own players Doubt I would call it your face haha why are you dead hard? |
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Post by muglump on Feb 7, 2016 19:10:14 GMT
Never seems to make much difference to some on here - I doubt he would call me a tool to my face, but I bet he shouts it at our own players Doubt I would call it your face haha why are you dead hard? No but i bet you're not either |
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Post by march4 on Feb 7, 2016 20:04:00 GMT
There is someone on here who has even started a thread criticising our most effective player; Glenn Whelan.
Unbelievable stuff!
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 7, 2016 20:12:39 GMT
So you critisise a millionaire footballer , on a forum, and you deserve a punch in the mouth.theres some proper tools on this site "by all means criticise, they do get paid a lot of money for something we would all do for free, but personal attacks?" What do you consider to be 'a personal attack' ? If eg I say diouf imo is not good enough for this level coz he needs 3/4 clear chances in order to possibly get 1 goal is that a personal attack ? If one says that Arnie is so frustratingly inconsistent, just great one day and totally useless the other, is that a personal attack ? If one says that wilson is always an accident waiting to happen and has cost us a lot of points .... |
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