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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 3, 2016 10:19:56 GMT
I am delighted with the potential that exists at my club, love the work that Mark Hughes has done and continues to do and wouldn't swap him for anyone, can't wait to see our new signing in action and genuinely believe that our club has many fantastic players and a trophy, so long as Hughes stays, is around the corner for us.
HOWEVER, I will never ever lose the right to comment on a particular game or particular performance, be that on here or at the game itself, regardless of what certain "holier than thou" supporters say at the game.
Make no mistake, we were fucking wank last night. Absolutely, mind numbingly dreadful with several players producing performances that wouldn't look out of place in Hanley park on a Sunday morning.
Walters and Crouch should NEVER start in the same team and if I ever have to witness it again, I will think that Mark Hughes needs sectioning. Crouch didn't do a thing right all game and if the ball wasn't within a foot of him, he got nowhere near it. Even when it was within a foot of him, he still often got nowhere near it. Walters, well, what is to say. Offers nothing going forward and offers even less going backwards. Complete and utter shite.
Having spent an extortionate amount of money to watch that shit, I reserve the right to say that a player is playing badly, dreadful, wank or whatever else that I want to say to my own mates who I'm attending the game with. If that offends certain people sitting in front of me, so be it. I didn't abuse anyone, I didn't shout obscenities, I simply commented that certain players were laughably bad in various passages of play TO MY MATES.
If those same people want to applaud a centre half who is positioned on the left wing when we concede a second goal that is their prerogative. It is mine to say that it is embarrassingly bad and question just what the fuck he's playing at.
In the context of last nights game of football, which I paid £ 46 to watch, that was a pile of shit by anyones standards.
In the context of a football season, a defeat away at Manure matters not a jot. It will be forgotten when our new signing steam rollers Everton on Saturday and we coast to our biggest win of the season.
However, last night was shit and it is everyones right to comment on how they see it!
Last night proved to me how much I've changed as I have got older. I'm less hot headed than I was as a youth and I made light of the comments that were thrown in my direction despite watching the abject shit that my team were producing on the pitch.
The irony of it all is that these same people who were preaching loyalty, asking if I was at Liverpool the week before and such like were the same two people I fell out with at Walsall 15 years or so ago when I had the audacity to defend Graham Kavanagh who was a rare ray of sunshine amongst the steaming pile of horse dung that we had playing for us at that time.
I love Stoke City but at times, they don't half piss me off!
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Post by nutterpotter on Feb 3, 2016 10:26:13 GMT
Some people need to understand that when a player is criticised, it doesn't mean that the poster thinks the player is crap and should be sold.
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Post by pez75 on Feb 3, 2016 10:30:02 GMT
I suppose if you are vocal with your criticism then you are open to be challenged, but to question your loyalty is a bit childish.
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Post by march4 on Feb 3, 2016 10:31:30 GMT
I thought SJW was MoM last night.
Although that isn't saying much!
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Post by Kjones9 on Feb 3, 2016 10:35:18 GMT
Some people need to understand that when a player is criticised, it doesn't mean that the poster thinks the player is crap and should be sold. Not quite true though is it. Because you have certain posters who slag the same players off no matter the performance or the result.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 3, 2016 10:38:42 GMT
I am delighted with the potential that exists at my club, love the work that Mark Hughes has done and continues to do and wouldn't swap him for anyone, can't wait to see our new signing in action and genuinely believe that our club has many fantastic players and a trophy, so long as Hughes stays, is around the corner for us. HOWEVER, I will never ever lose the right to comment on a particular game or particular performance, be that on here or at the game itself, regardless of what certain "holier than thou" supporters say at the game. Make no mistake, we were fucking wank last night. Absolutely, mind numbingly dreadful with several players producing performances that wouldn't look out of place in Hanley park on a Sunday morning. Walters and Crouch should NEVER start in the same team and if I ever have to witness it again, I will think that Mark Hughes needs sectioning. Crouch didn't do a thing right all game and if the ball wasn't within a foot of him, he got nowhere near it. Even when it was within a foot of him, he still often got nowhere near it. Walters, well, what is to say. Offers nothing going forward and offers even less going backwards. Complete and utter shite. Having spent an extortionate amount of money to watch that shit, I reserve the right to say that a player is playing badly, dreadful, wank or whatever else that I want to say to my own mates who I'm attending the game with. If that offends certain people sitting in front of me, so be it. I didn't abuse anyone, I didn't shout obscenities, I simply commented that certain players were laughably bad in various passages of play TO MY MATES. If those same people want to applaud a centre half who is positioned on the left wing when we concede a second goal that is their prerogative. It is mine to say that it is embarrassingly bad and question just what the fuck he's playing at. In the context of last nights game of football, which I paid £ 46 to watch, that was a pile of shit by anyones standards. In the context of a football season, a defeat away at Manure matters not a jot. It will be forgotten when our new signing steam rollers Everton on Saturday and we coast to our biggest win of the season. However, last night was shit and it is everyones right to comment on how they see it! Last night proved to me how much I've changed as I have got older. I'm less hot headed than I was as a youth and I made light of the comments that were thrown in my direction despite watching the abject shit that my team were producing on the pitch. The irony of it all is that these same people who were preaching loyalty, asking if I was at Liverpool the week before and such like were the same two people I fell out with at Walsall 15 years or so ago when I had the audacity to defend Graham Kavanagh who was a rare ray of sunshine amongst the steaming pile of horse dung that we had playing for us at that time. I love Stoke City but at times, they don't half piss me off! Great post Dave
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 3, 2016 10:39:55 GMT
I thought SJW was MoM last night. Although that isn't saying much! Fella - I like SJW a lot but the last few weeks he has just been JW and needs a rest
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 3, 2016 10:41:46 GMT
I thought SJW was MoM last night. Although that isn't saying much! Come on March you don't really mean that,he was dogshit along with the rest of them
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 3, 2016 10:42:56 GMT
I am delighted with the potential that exists at my club, love the work that Mark Hughes has done and continues to do and wouldn't swap him for anyone, can't wait to see our new signing in action and genuinely believe that our club has many fantastic players and a trophy, so long as Hughes stays, is around the corner for us. HOWEVER, I will never ever lose the right to comment on a particular game or particular performance, be that on here or at the game itself, regardless of what certain "holier than thou" supporters say at the game. Make no mistake, we were fucking wank last night. Absolutely, mind numbingly dreadful with several players producing performances that wouldn't look out of place in Hanley park on a Sunday morning. Walters and Crouch should NEVER start in the same team and if I ever have to witness it again, I will think that Mark Hughes needs sectioning. Crouch didn't do a thing right all game and if the ball wasn't within a foot of him, he got nowhere near it. Even when it was within a foot of him, he still often got nowhere near it. Walters, well, what is to say. Offers nothing going forward and offers even less going backwards. Complete and utter shite. Having spent an extortionate amount of money to watch that shit, I reserve the right to say that a player is playing badly, dreadful, wank or whatever else that I want to say to my own mates who I'm attending the game with. If that offends certain people sitting in front of me, so be it. I didn't abuse anyone, I didn't shout obscenities, I simply commented that certain players were laughably bad in various passages of play TO MY MATES. If those same people want to applaud a centre half who is positioned on the left wing when we concede a second goal that is their prerogative. It is mine to say that it is embarrassingly bad and question just what the fuck he's playing at. In the context of last nights game of football, which I paid £ 46 to watch, that was a pile of shit by anyones standards. In the context of a football season, a defeat away at Manure matters not a jot. It will be forgotten when our new signing steam rollers Everton on Saturday and we coast to our biggest win of the season. However, last night was shit and it is everyones right to comment on how they see it! Last night proved to me how much I've changed as I have got older. I'm less hot headed than I was as a youth and I made light of the comments that were thrown in my direction despite watching the abject shit that my team were producing on the pitch. The irony of it all is that these same people who were preaching loyalty, asking if I was at Liverpool the week before and such like were the same two people I fell out with at Walsall 15 years or so ago when I had the audacity to defend Graham Kavanagh who was a rare ray of sunshine amongst the steaming pile of horse dung that we had playing for us at that time. I love Stoke City but at times, they don't half piss me off! 100% bob on there fella Seems we can not talk about a single game without some one accusing us of being disloyal If you cant get upset when your team put that type of performance in, or elated when we put a Man City performance I then what really is the point?
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Post by generationex on Feb 3, 2016 10:45:36 GMT
You can't blame Walters or Crouch for that defensive shambles. Affelay didn't put in a shift defensively and Muni was lost. We are too dependant on Shawcross and have failed to keep or find adequate cover for his role.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 3, 2016 10:45:56 GMT
I am delighted with the potential that exists at my club, love the work that Mark Hughes has done and continues to do and wouldn't swap him for anyone, can't wait to see our new signing in action and genuinely believe that our club has many fantastic players and a trophy, so long as Hughes stays, is around the corner for us. HOWEVER, I will never ever lose the right to comment on a particular game or particular performance, be that on here or at the game itself, regardless of what certain "holier than thou" supporters say at the game. Make no mistake, we were fucking wank last night. Absolutely, mind numbingly dreadful with several players producing performances that wouldn't look out of place in Hanley park on a Sunday morning. Walters and Crouch should NEVER start in the same team and if I ever have to witness it again, I will think that Mark Hughes needs sectioning. Crouch didn't do a thing right all game and if the ball wasn't within a foot of him, he got nowhere near it. Even when it was within a foot of him, he still often got nowhere near it. Walters, well, what is to say. Offers nothing going forward and offers even less going backwards. Complete and utter shite. Having spent an extortionate amount of money to watch that shit, I reserve the right to say that a player is playing badly, dreadful, wank or whatever else that I want to say to my own mates who I'm attending the game with. If that offends certain people sitting in front of me, so be it. I didn't abuse anyone, I didn't shout obscenities, I simply commented that certain players were laughably bad in various passages of play TO MY MATES. If those same people want to applaud a centre half who is positioned on the left wing when we concede a second goal that is their prerogative. It is mine to say that it is embarrassingly bad and question just what the fuck he's playing at. In the context of last nights game of football, which I paid £ 46 to watch, that was a pile of shit by anyones standards. In the context of a football season, a defeat away at Manure matters not a jot. It will be forgotten when our new signing steam rollers Everton on Saturday and we coast to our biggest win of the season. However, last night was shit and it is everyones right to comment on how they see it! Last night proved to me how much I've changed as I have got older. I'm less hot headed than I was as a youth and I made light of the comments that were thrown in my direction despite watching the abject shit that my team were producing on the pitch. The irony of it all is that these same people who were preaching loyalty, asking if I was at Liverpool the week before and such like were the same two people I fell out with at Walsall 15 years or so ago when I had the audacity to defend Graham Kavanagh who was a rare ray of sunshine amongst the steaming pile of horse dung that we had playing for us at that time. I love Stoke City but at times, they don't half piss me off! 100% bob on there fella Seems we can not talk about a single game without some one accusing us of being disloyal If you cant get upset when your team put that type of performance in, or elated when we put a Man City performance I then what really is the point? What you'll find mate is its the keyboard warriors that don't attend away games that are the culprits
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 3, 2016 10:47:34 GMT
100% bob on there fella Seems we can not talk about a single game without some one accusing us of being disloyal If you cant get upset when your team put that type of performance in, or elated when we put a Man City performance I then what really is the point? What you'll find mate is its the keyboard warriors that don't attend away games that are the culprits Indeed and they don't bother me but it stops decent debate and a big part of nogga is discussing the good and bad
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 3, 2016 10:49:30 GMT
We've been average in most games, great in a handful and dreadful in a handful.
Team selections have been baffling.
Subs have been very baffling.
But we can still finish very high up in the league.
He needs to start playing our best players together at the same time and then that process can start.
I just fear that the Christmas period has screwed us over. I hope it hasn't.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 3, 2016 10:52:50 GMT
You can't blame Walters or Crouch for that defensive shambles. Affelay didn't put in a shift defensively and Muni was lost. We are too dependant on Shawcross and have failed to keep or find adequate cover for his role. Of course you can. The fact that they failed to help relieve any pressure whatsoever contributed massively to the shambles that was our performance last night.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 3, 2016 10:54:26 GMT
100% bob on there fella Seems we can not talk about a single game without some one accusing us of being disloyal If you cant get upset when your team put that type of performance in, or elated when we put a Man City performance I then what really is the point? What you'll find mate is its the keyboard warriors that don't attend away games that are the culprits I think he's talking about people sat a couple of rows in front of him at Old Trafford last night
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 3, 2016 10:56:42 GMT
We've been average in most games, great in a handful and dreadful in a handful. Team selections have been baffling. Subs have been very baffling. But we can still finish very high up in the league. He needs to start playing our best players together at the same time and then that process can start. I just fear that the Christmas period has screwed us over. I hope it hasn't. I think that is a very fair summary
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 3, 2016 10:58:44 GMT
You can't blame Walters or Crouch for that defensive shambles. Affelay didn't put in a shift defensively and Muni was lost. We are too dependant on Shawcross and have failed to keep or find adequate cover for his role. Of course you can. The fact that they failed to help relieve any pressure whatsoever contributed massively to the shambles that was our performance last night. The manager has to shoulder the blame for a) giving them new contracts and b) playing them. Walters I can accept the new contract with (just) but Crouch? Dreadful mistake.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 3, 2016 11:01:45 GMT
Of course you can. The fact that they failed to help relieve any pressure whatsoever contributed massively to the shambles that was our performance last night. The manager has to shoulder the blame for a) giving them new contracts and b) playing them. Walters I can accept the new contract with (just) but Crouch? Dreadful mistake. Neither should have been given a new contract.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 3, 2016 11:03:43 GMT
The manager has to shoulder the blame for a) giving them new contracts and b) playing them. Walters I can accept the new contract with (just) but Crouch? Dreadful mistake. Neither should have been given a new contract. Agree
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 3, 2016 11:03:51 GMT
Of course you can. The fact that they failed to help relieve any pressure whatsoever contributed massively to the shambles that was our performance last night. The manager has to shoulder the blame for a) giving them new contracts and b) playing them. Walters I can accept the new contract with (just) but Crouch? Dreadful mistake. I originally accepted the Crouch contract as a commercial move rather than for football reasons, he's so well known around the world he must be worth his salt. However now he's started to play him regular again it just baffles me. Wingie's contract is the worst of the lot though.He was never gonna rediscover that golden 4 months we had from him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 11:10:13 GMT
I am delighted with the potential that exists at my club, love the work that Mark Hughes has done and continues to do and wouldn't swap him for anyone, can't wait to see our new signing in action and genuinely believe that our club has many fantastic players and a trophy, so long as Hughes stays, is around the corner for us. HOWEVER, I will never ever lose the right to comment on a particular game or particular performance, be that on here or at the game itself, regardless of what certain "holier than thou" supporters say at the game. Make no mistake, we were fucking wank last night. Absolutely, mind numbingly dreadful with several players producing performances that wouldn't look out of place in Hanley park on a Sunday morning. Walters and Crouch should NEVER start in the same team and if I ever have to witness it again, I will think that Mark Hughes needs sectioning. Crouch didn't do a thing right all game and if the ball wasn't within a foot of him, he got nowhere near it. Even when it was within a foot of him, he still often got nowhere near it. Walters, well, what is to say. Offers nothing going forward and offers even less going backwards. Complete and utter shite. Having spent an extortionate amount of money to watch that shit, I reserve the right to say that a player is playing badly, dreadful, wank or whatever else that I want to say to my own mates who I'm attending the game with. If that offends certain people sitting in front of me, so be it. I didn't abuse anyone, I didn't shout obscenities, I simply commented that certain players were laughably bad in various passages of play TO MY MATES. If those same people want to applaud a centre half who is positioned on the left wing when we concede a second goal that is their prerogative. It is mine to say that it is embarrassingly bad and question just what the fuck he's playing at. In the context of last nights game of football, which I paid £ 46 to watch, that was a pile of shit by anyones standards. In the context of a football season, a defeat away at Manure matters not a jot. It will be forgotten when our new signing steam rollers Everton on Saturday and we coast to our biggest win of the season. However, last night was shit and it is everyones right to comment on how they see it! Last night proved to me how much I've changed as I have got older. I'm less hot headed than I was as a youth and I made light of the comments that were thrown in my direction despite watching the abject shit that my team were producing on the pitch. The irony of it all is that these same people who were preaching loyalty, asking if I was at Liverpool the week before and such like were the same two people I fell out with at Walsall 15 years or so ago when I had the audacity to defend Graham Kavanagh who was a rare ray of sunshine amongst the steaming pile of horse dung that we had playing for us at that time. I love Stoke City but at times, they don't half piss me off! Agree with you totally but it's stupid how people say things like 'the season is over now' - they are the people whose loyalty should be questioned.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 3, 2016 11:12:41 GMT
Has the season finished? I agree with bayern! Just off the top of my head we have only played well against the two Manchester clubs at home, Chelsea (x2), Liverpool away and the odd half here and there. Most of the time we huff and puff to little affect. The Everton win was not that good a perfomance when you look at it. Luckily they have Stones in their defence. But, we are a team in transition. Shirley Hughes as a 5 year plan, Coates likes them, and how our team is potentially developing is very exciting. Personally I think some of our next level players are getting frustrated with players who are not at the next level, which is not good, especially when they mardarse around during a game! We have taken a short term approach to some of our signings and are just papering over the cracks. Unfortunately the cracks are at the back and in midfield. How many 29 - 30+ players have we got? Anyway we've just broken our transfer record on a young player. It will take time and is taking time, for us to overhaul the squad. Forget this season judge us on next season or maybe the one after.
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Post by liamo on Feb 3, 2016 11:12:58 GMT
Our issue is the same one as last season, we can't keep our best team fit for any extended period of time and general fitness seems to be an issue too, from kick-off yesterday the team looked dead on their feet
For the life of me i don't understand why we don't stick to a formation and impose our game on the opposition, we've tried tested and failed in too many different formations this season and players like Bojan and Shaqiri don't know if they're coming or going, Sparky needs to sit them down, say "this is how we play" and buy cover for positions so we don't have to force changes to tactics, which is why i expected a winger in january?
That team last night felt stagnant, Sparky teams are direct and quick and Crouch is neither, i assumed that Walters was on to give our right back some help with Martial and he didn't
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 3, 2016 11:15:30 GMT
At least they were talking about the game whereas the 4 lads right behind me decided there role for the whole match was to scream abuse at the home supporters for failing to sing for their team!They went on and on and to have them in my ear and to have to watch that performance from the team at the same time made for a forgetful evening.
March ,I am sorry, but although you are of course entitled to your opinion, I have to say Walters offered nothing going forward and if he was supposed to help out Johnson with dealing with Martial he simply went missing,which is unusual for him.
Having said that he was of course not on his own.
Crouch and Walters both up front together take away any semblance of pace - but I was ready to lynch Arnie.He spent passages of the game with his back turned to the ball,not watching what was going on,especially when he had a little bump to his nose and spent the next 5 minutes feeling sorry for himself and left Peters high and dry. All the more galling was that Man U were clearly there for the taking.Remove Martial from there side and they had very little to offer and seemed weak at the back,and pretty cluless in midfield if they could not pass to Martial
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 3, 2016 11:18:01 GMT
The manager has to shoulder the blame for a) giving them new contracts and b) playing them. Walters I can accept the new contract with (just) but Crouch? Dreadful mistake. Neither should have been given a new contract. I agree but I can see the logic behind Walters just but it shouldn't have happened.
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Post by pavel on Feb 3, 2016 11:19:26 GMT
I am delighted with the potential that exists at my club, love the work that Mark Hughes has done and continues to do and wouldn't swap him for anyone, can't wait to see our new signing in action and genuinely believe that our club has many fantastic players and a trophy, so long as Hughes stays, is around the corner for us. HOWEVER, I will never ever lose the right to comment on a particular game or particular performance, be that on here or at the game itself, regardless of what certain "holier than thou" supporters say at the game. Make no mistake, we were fucking wank last night. Absolutely, mind numbingly dreadful with several players producing performances that wouldn't look out of place in Hanley park on a Sunday morning. Walters and Crouch should NEVER start in the same team and if I ever have to witness it again, I will think that Mark Hughes needs sectioning. Crouch didn't do a thing right all game and if the ball wasn't within a foot of him, he got nowhere near it. Even when it was within a foot of him, he still often got nowhere near it. Walters, well, what is to say. Offers nothing going forward and offers even less going backwards. Complete and utter shite. Having spent an extortionate amount of money to watch that shit, I reserve the right to say that a player is playing badly, dreadful, wank or whatever else that I want to say to my own mates who I'm attending the game with. If that offends certain people sitting in front of me, so be it. I didn't abuse anyone, I didn't shout obscenities, I simply commented that certain players were laughably bad in various passages of play TO MY MATES. If those same people want to applaud a centre half who is positioned on the left wing when we concede a second goal that is their prerogative. It is mine to say that it is embarrassingly bad and question just what the fuck he's playing at. In the context of last nights game of football, which I paid £ 46 to watch, that was a pile of shit by anyones standards. In the context of a football season, a defeat away at Manure matters not a jot. It will be forgotten when our new signing steam rollers Everton on Saturday and we coast to our biggest win of the season. However, last night was shit and it is everyones right to comment on how they see it! Last night proved to me how much I've changed as I have got older. I'm less hot headed than I was as a youth and I made light of the comments that were thrown in my direction despite watching the abject shit that my team were producing on the pitch. The irony of it all is that these same people who were preaching loyalty, asking if I was at Liverpool the week before and such like were the same two people I fell out with at Walsall 15 years or so ago when I had the audacity to defend Graham Kavanagh who was a rare ray of sunshine amongst the steaming pile of horse dung that we had playing for us at that time. I love Stoke City but at times, they don't half piss me off! Great post Dave, and spot on. Only saw it on a good stream so only had the pain of the performance and not the travelling from London or the cost! You have every right to comment, especially insightfully.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 3, 2016 11:22:53 GMT
Our issue is the same one as last season, we can't keep our best team fit for any extended period of time and general fitness seems to be an issue too, from kick-off yesterday the team looked dead on their feet For the life of me i don't understand why we don't stick to a formation and impose our game on the opposition, we've tried tested and failed in too many different formations this season and players like Bojan and Shaqiri don't know if they're coming or going, Sparky needs to sit them down, say "this is how we play" and buy cover for positions so we don't have to force changes to tactics, which is why i expected a winger in january? That team last night felt stagnant, Sparky teams are direct and quick and Crouch is neither, i assumed that Walters was on to give our right back some help with Martial and he didn't I also presumed that was why Walters was selected on the wing, this fallacy that he defends well is just that, him and Crouch should never be in the same team together simple as that but most knew that prior to that shower of shit last night.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 3, 2016 11:24:01 GMT
What you'll find mate is its the keyboard warriors that don't attend away games that are the culprits Indeed and they don't bother me but it stops decent debate and a big part of nogga is discussing the good and bad Spot on mate
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Feb 3, 2016 11:25:47 GMT
What you'll find mate is its the keyboard warriors that don't attend away games that are the culprits I think he's talking about people sat a couple of rows in front of him at Old Trafford last night Oh I see mate lol,it was hard for me sat on the end of the row next to the stewards and watching all the plastics celebrate, WANKERS
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 3, 2016 11:26:07 GMT
You can't blame Walters or Crouch for that defensive shambles. Affelay didn't put in a shift defensively and Muni was lost. We are too dependant on Shawcross and have failed to keep or find adequate cover for his role. Of course you can. The fact that they failed to help relieve any pressure whatsoever contributed massively to the shambles that was our performance last night. You can't blame Crouch or Walters for Afellay completely neglecting his defensive duties last night. It was either the decision of the player or a direct instruction from the manager.
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