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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Jan 30, 2016 22:11:19 GMT
We have had a rollercoaster ride so far and now we are out of both cups let us go gung-ho for Europe ....strongest team from now on...come on you Potters
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 22:18:05 GMT
Doubt we'll finish top half!. Next level my arse.
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Jan 30, 2016 22:22:12 GMT
Doubt we'll finish top half!. Next level my arse. Totally disagree..on the up |
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Post by Gods on Jan 30, 2016 22:27:24 GMT
9th at the moment aren't we but that's 10th in real money with Chelsea shortly to move through the pack.
I think we will wind up somewhere in the range 8th to 12th.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 30, 2016 22:35:54 GMT
Guaranteed place is 5th, depending upon who wins FA cup and League Cup could bring in 6th or 7th. 5th out of the question, 6th a long shot, 7th doable but only if we strengthen midfield and get a goalscorer. Also we will need luck with injuries. Sadly our best route was via the cups but that isn't to be. Let's see where we are on Tuesday morning once the window shuts.
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Post by samba :) on Jan 30, 2016 22:37:40 GMT
Guaranteed place is 5th, depending upon who wins FA cup and League Cup could bring in 6th or 7th. 5th out of the question, 6th a long shot, 7th doable but only if we strengthen midfield and get a goalscorer. Also we will need luck with injuries. Sadly our best route was via the cups but that isn't to be. Let's see where we are on Tuesday morning once the window shuts. The same place as we are now? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 3:10:56 GMT
Guaranteed place is 5th, depending upon who wins FA cup and League Cup could bring in 6th or 7th. 5th out of the question, 6th a long shot, 7th doable but only if we strengthen midfield and get a goalscorer. Also we will need luck with injuries. Sadly our best route was via the cups but that isn't to be. Let's see where we are on Tuesday morning once the window shuts. Totally agree... Is there a wild card entry again, West Ham had it last year, based on fair play... Realistically I firmly believe 7th is in our grasp, and again, if the 2 cups are won by teams already qualified then that's a route to Europe... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 31, 2016 3:12:17 GMT
We don't have the squad for Europe at present.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 4:40:08 GMT
We don't have the squad for Europe at present. We don't have the squad to qualify for Europe at present either. |
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Post by ryan4england on Jan 31, 2016 9:22:24 GMT
If we secure a top 6 spot with a weakend defence whilst not being able to score goals and an empty shopping cart by tuesday then hughes deserves the man u or chelsea job and i'll drive him there for talks free of charge
West ham, southampton, leicester, arsenal, spurs, man u, man city...
The guy is a manager not a magician. We'll finish as well as he's backed, the opportunity was there though.
Why we hav'nt gone the extra mile when we clearly are not going to go down only the club can answer, mark hughes would have the players needed in tomorrow.
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Post by Waggy on Jan 31, 2016 9:27:31 GMT
Anything 10th and above is a good season for stoke city.
Europe would be exceptional .
Leicester dont have a squad on paper that should be up there let alone top 10
I say this, get behind the laddies and lets get them to greatness.
Onwards and upwards. Up the potters
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Post by blackpoolred on Jan 31, 2016 10:15:03 GMT
We have had a rollercoaster ride so far and now we are out of both cups let us go gung-ho for Europe ....strongest team from now on...come on you Potters Here's hoping we can get into europe, but 40pts first, then 50 etc, etc. I think we would need 3 quality players down the spine of the side to get the necessary consistency for a european push though. Also not sure we should risk players if they have injuries that could be made worse by playing, specially if get to the 40pt mark |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Jan 31, 2016 10:47:45 GMT
We better get into Europe.
Otherwise I'll have to take my family on holiday.
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Post by Stokyo on Jan 31, 2016 10:56:49 GMT
We have had a rollercoaster ride so far and now we are out of both cups let us go gung-ho for Europe ....strongest team from now on...come on you Potters Here's hoping we can get into europe, but 40pts first, then 50 etc, etc. I think we would need 3 quality players down the spine of the side to get the necessary consistency for a european push though. Also not sure we should risk players if they have injuries that could be made worse by playing, specially if get to the 40pt mark Off topic but that is a lovely poster on your profile picture, do you know if you can get prints of that? |
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Post by retired1 on Jan 31, 2016 12:37:31 GMT
The only european adventures will be if we have a preseason there. Sorry but I can't see us achieving a spot.
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Post by MilanStokie on Jan 31, 2016 12:48:29 GMT
The only european adventures will be if we have a preseason there. Sorry but I can't see us achieving a spot. Did you "see" us beating Manchester City and Manchester Utd and Chelsea with absolute ease? Going to Anfield when the odds were against us to go out of the cup very easily, and win? There is little point having such an over positive or negative outlook on sport where you aren't personally in control of the performance. Better to get behind the team no matter what and see what happens. As it stands, anywhere between 4th and 17th is still possible, in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 14:38:09 GMT
The only european adventures will be if we have a preseason there. Sorry but I can't see us achieving a spot. Did you "see" us beating Manchester City and Manchester Utd and Chelsea with absolute ease? Going to Anfield when the odds were against us to go out of the cup very easily, and win? There is little point having such an over positive or negative outlook on sport where you aren't personally in control of the performance. Better to get behind the team no matter what and see what happens. As it stands, anywhere between 4th and 17th is still possible, in my opinion. Yeah!. I also saw home defeats to palace, Watford, and away at blunderland capped by utter shit at Leicester. |
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Post by werrington on Jan 31, 2016 14:41:58 GMT
Did you "see" us beating Manchester City and Manchester Utd and Chelsea with absolute ease? Going to Anfield when the odds were against us to go out of the cup very easily, and win? There is little point having such an over positive or negative outlook on sport where you aren't personally in control of the performance. Better to get behind the team no matter what and see what happens. As it stands, anywhere between 4th and 17th is still possible, in my opinion. Yeah!. I also saw home defeats to palace, Watford, and away at blunderland capped by utter shit at Leicester. I've just looked at your posting history ....everytime we get a good result you never show up Boxing Day v Man Utd and Everton away never got a post but back with a vengeance after WBA |
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Post by MilanStokie on Jan 31, 2016 14:42:22 GMT
Did you "see" us beating Manchester City and Manchester Utd and Chelsea with absolute ease? Going to Anfield when the odds were against us to go out of the cup very easily, and win? There is little point having such an over positive or negative outlook on sport where you aren't personally in control of the performance. Better to get behind the team no matter what and see what happens. As it stands, anywhere between 4th and 17th is still possible, in my opinion. Yeah!. I also saw home defeats to palace, Watford, and away at blunderland capped by utter shit at Leicester. That just further enhances my point that ANYTHING can happen though.... I wish our so called fans would just stop writing things off only to be made to look very stupid in the future. See Hughes appointment, Bojan, Wollscheid etc etc etc etc etc etc |
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Post by tachyon on Jan 31, 2016 14:55:45 GMT
Lots of statistical predictive models doing the rounds based on goal attempts. Looking at Premier League and particularly Stoke with a dispassionate eye over the remaining matches we're most likely to get 50 points and finish in 10th spot. Attachment Deleted It's about a 2% chance we finish somewhere in the top 5 and 1 in 1,000 we get relegated. Darker the green, the more likely the outcome, darker the red the less likely. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 31, 2016 15:04:44 GMT
We have had a rollercoaster ride so far and now we are out of both cups let us go gung-ho for Europe ....strongest team from now on...come on you Potters We can't play the same team in every game, it's counter-intuitive. We have a squad for that very reason. And I'm sure the aim is to beat last season's points total, if we do that then we should finish in the Top 8. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 31, 2016 15:09:59 GMT
Lots of statistical predictive models doing the rounds based on goal attempts. Looking at Premier League and particularly Stoke with a dispassionate eye over the remaining matches we're most likely to get 50 points and finish in 10th spot. View Attachment It's about a 2% chance we finish somewhere in the top 5 and 1 in 1,000 we get relegated. Darker the green, the more likely the outcome, darker the red the less likely. I think you have to also factor in the continued trend in Hughes' managerial career that sees his teams perform better towards the end of the season. If that trend were to continue this season, then Europe is a real possibility. |
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Post by tachyon on Jan 31, 2016 17:25:09 GMT
I think you have to also factor in the continued trend in Hughes' managerial career that sees his teams perform better towards the end of the season. If that trend were to continue this season, then Europe is a real possibility. Hughes' first season at Stoke was the most extreme example of late season improvement. That could have been partly down to the side taking time to adjust to the change in style. If you include all his completed seasons as a Premier League manager his sides add a couple of tenths of a point per game over the final 15 games compared to the initial 23. Take out Stoke's transition season and the rate of increase more than halves. If the "late season Hughes" effect is real, it'll probably only add a point or two to the projections. |
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Post by stokey127 on Jan 31, 2016 17:56:58 GMT
We don't have the squad for Europe at present. Let's get in there and have a go mate. Mark needs a striker in the window and let's see. Up the potters! |
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 31, 2016 17:58:23 GMT
Anything 10th and above is a good season for stoke city. Europe would be exceptional . Leicester dont have a squad on paper that should be up there let alone top 10 I say this, get behind the laddies and lets get them to greatness. Onwards and upwards. Up the potters Agree 100% Waggy, well said |
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 31, 2016 18:01:47 GMT
Lots of statistical predictive models doing the rounds based on goal attempts. Looking at Premier League and particularly Stoke with a dispassionate eye over the remaining matches we're most likely to get 50 points and finish in 10th spot. View Attachment It's about a 2% chance we finish somewhere in the top 5 and 1 in 1,000 we get relegated. Darker the green, the more likely the outcome, darker the red the less likely. So looking at the numbers we are just as likely to finish with 57 points as we are to finish with 46 points. Makes sense I guess |
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Post by Batfink on Jan 31, 2016 18:03:52 GMT
Lots of statistical predictive models doing the rounds based on goal attempts. Looking at Premier League and particularly Stoke with a dispassionate eye over the remaining matches we're most likely to get 50 points and finish in 10th spot. View Attachment It's about a 2% chance we finish somewhere in the top 5 atnd 1 in 1,000 we get relegated. Darker the green, the more likely the outcome, darker the red the less likely. Why is top more likely than second? |
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 31, 2016 18:58:55 GMT
Never mind the odds and predictions, with other clubs bogged down with cup matches, we now have a great chance to edge higher up the table.
It will take a super human effort and some of our forwards have got to start hitting the net, but we are only 3 points off 6th place.
Achieving 6th will give us more revenue from a lot of sources and make us more attractive to top class players.
Maybe we won't quite get to Europe this season but we are making steady progress.
MH now has to convince the players (Arni/Bojan/Shaq/Affelay/MVG) that if they want to progress their careers and move to one of the world's top clubs, they need to get their fingers out and demonstrate to the football world what they can do over the remaining 15 matches.
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Post by tachyon on Jan 31, 2016 19:08:06 GMT
Why is top more likely than second? [/quote] Not sure I follow. On the points chart, we've got a 1.6% chance of finishing with <42 points (so that's 41-40-39 down to our current 33 points) compared to a 0.8% of getting exactly 42, but we've got essentially a zero chance of finishing either in 1st or 2nd position. |
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 31, 2016 19:16:05 GMT
Let's qualify, we can upgrade the squad if we do, keep players we want and attract quality
With the TV money coming in this season and the money earned from European completion it will be self financing.
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