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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 20:25:50 GMT
You would bet money on that would you? I certainly wouldn't. Too risky. 100%. Again, let's break it down. They've won two games since August. They need to win eight games between now and May. That's 50% of their remaining games. They're a dreadful team. They won the other night because Hennessey chucked one into his own net. For all the plaudits they didn't win tonight. I'll bet you £100 right now that it isn't going to happen. I'm not betting on any team to win or be relegated this season.
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Post by milky on Jan 16, 2016 20:28:33 GMT
Not a prayer will they stay up.
Every game they don't win or their nearest rivals pick up points is another nail in the coffin.
They aren't quite as bad as Derby were And the effort was there tonight but they are nowhere near good enough.
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Post by borat on Jan 16, 2016 20:38:26 GMT
Like I said on another thread, Leicester were just as bad at this stage last year, after 29 games they had 19 points but finished 14th on 41 points so it is possible. Getting 4 points off a team that was 5th (Palace on tuesday) and a team who are currently top is very very good. It's not 100% that they are doomed mark my words! They weren't just as bad. They're worse. They're not going to win half of their remaining games, and they need to do that to even have a chance. Do you honestly see them doing that? In fact I've just checked the last 7 seasons and 40 points has only been needed ONCE to survive 1) 2008/9 - 35 points enough to stay up. 2) 2009/10 - 31 points enough 3) 2010/11 - 40 points enough 4) 2011/12 - 37 points enough 5) 2012/13 - 37 points enough 6) 2013/14 - 34 points enough 7) 2014/15 - 36 points enough So on average over the last 7 seasons 35 points is enough to stay up, I'm not being argumentative but they are the facts. Over half of the last 7 seasons (4) just 36 points was required, it could be even less (like in 2009/10). So they may need 6 more wins and 6 more draws to stay up, that is achievable.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 16, 2016 20:40:45 GMT
They weren't just as bad. They're worse. They're not going to win half of their remaining games, and they need to do that to even have a chance. Do you honestly see them doing that? In fact I've just checked the last 7 seasons and 40 points has only been needed ONCE to survive 1) 2008/9 - 35 points enough to stay up. 2) 2009/10 - 31 points enough 3) 2010/11 - 40 points enough 4) 2011/12 - 37 points enough 5) 2012/13 - 37 points enough 6) 2013/14 - 34 points enough 7) 2014/15 - 36 points enough So on average over the last 7 seasons 35 points is enough to stay up, I'm not being argumentative but they are the facts. Over half of the last 7 seasons (4) just 36 points was required, it could be even less (like in 2009/10). So they may need 6 more wins and 6 more draws to stay up, that is achievable. I never once mentioned 40 points. You're asking the worst team in the league (by far) to get a result in three quarters of their remaining games and hope three other teams perform worse. No. Fucking. Chance.
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 16, 2016 20:42:32 GMT
I think Garde would jump the boat aswell if or when they go down.
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Post by borat on Jan 16, 2016 20:42:35 GMT
I know you didn't mention 40 points BUT that is always the figure thrown around, 40 points is likely to make a team finish 14th or so.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Jan 16, 2016 20:43:51 GMT
Still no. I can't see them getting out of it.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 16, 2016 20:44:09 GMT
I know you didn't mention 40 points BUT that is always the figure thrown around, 40 points is likely to make a team finish 14th or so. They need an almighty miracle and they haven't remotely shown they have one in them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 20:47:47 GMT
No fucking chance.
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Post by staffsvilla on Jan 16, 2016 20:56:07 GMT
I'd love to be proved wrong, but no chance, you can't start trying this late in the season and expect to survive, yes they put it all in tonight and with a decent ref may of got a pen, but its all ifs and buts bottom line we are lacking in quality all over the pitch and hoofing the high ball up to Gestede and/or Kojak is not going to phase any decent sides, one other thing about tonight, it proved Leicester are vastly overrated to go top of the league while effectively hanging on for a point v the worst team in the league, its only the inconsistency of the others keeping them up there, thanks for the kind words but Burton here we come (wave)
UTV
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 16, 2016 20:58:29 GMT
They are doomed.
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Post by borat on Jan 16, 2016 21:01:08 GMT
I'd love to be proved wrong, but no chance, you can't start trying this late in the season and expect to survive, yes they put it all in tonight and with a decent ref may of got a pen, but its all ifs and buts bottom line we are lacking in quality all over the pitch and hoofing the high ball up to Gestede and/or Kojak is not going to phase any decent sides, one other thing about tonight, it proved Leicester are vastly overrated to go top of the league while effectively hanging on for a point v the worst team in the league, its only the inconsistency of the others keeping them up there, thanks for the kind words but Burton here we come (wave) UTV It's not impossible mate, stranger things have happened, like I said earlier on this thread 35/36 points has been enough points keep teams up over the past 7 seasons. You certainly don't need 11 more wins like Sherwood said, that would take you about 13th lol. You need at least THE VERY LEAST 6 wins and 5 draws and hope for the best. I hope you keep on fighting till the end and give it a good go. It's obvious you are lacking quality though from watching the game today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 21:02:54 GMT
I'd love to be proved wrong, but no chance, you can't start trying this late in the season and expect to survive, yes they put it all in tonight and with a decent ref may of got a pen, but its all ifs and buts bottom line we are lacking in quality all over the pitch and hoofing the high ball up to Gestede and/or Kojak is not going to phase any decent sides, one other thing about tonight, it proved Leicester are vastly overrated to go top of the league while effectively hanging on for a point v the worst team in the league, its only the inconsistency of the others keeping them up there, thanks for the kind words but Burton here we come (wave) UTV Fair assessment, to be honest I would rather Sunderland, Swansea and Norwich went down as all shite away days. If they could be replaced with derby, Sheffield Wednesday and Brighton I would be a happy man. Fingers crossed for you but as you say a little late.
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Jan 16, 2016 21:05:42 GMT
I'd love to be proved wrong, but no chance, you can't start trying this late in the season and expect to survive, yes they put it all in tonight and with a decent ref may of got a pen, but its all ifs and buts bottom line we are lacking in quality all over the pitch and hoofing the high ball up to Gestede and/or Kojak is not going to phase any decent sides, one other thing about tonight, it proved Leicester are vastly overrated to go top of the league while effectively hanging on for a point v the worst team in the league, its only the inconsistency of the others keeping them up there, thanks for the kind words but Burton here we come (wave) UTV Fair assessment, to be honest I would rather Sunderland, Swansea and Norwich went down as all shite away days. If they could be replaced with derby, Sheffield Wednesday and Brighton I would be a happy man. Finges crossed for you but as you say a little late. True, I think they'll still struggle to stay up but there's teams I'd sooner see relegated.
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 16, 2016 21:18:21 GMT
What happens if the teams just above and around them collapse?
Just promoting a good well argued thread on here.
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Post by dubzerino on Jan 16, 2016 21:20:52 GMT
According to this report, they'll be lucky to avoid a double relegation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 21:21:24 GMT
What happens if the teams just above and around them collapse? Just promoting a good well argued thread on here. But they still have to play each other so someone will gain points. They still need to win 6 games... They have won 2 all season! They need a miracle of miracles.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 16, 2016 21:24:32 GMT
Nah, a villa fan I work with said he'd be happy with 30 points
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Post by Boothen on Jan 16, 2016 22:13:49 GMT
Not a chance. They haven't got the fight in them.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 16, 2016 22:22:31 GMT
They might start picking up a few points here and there but they are relying on 3 other teams to completely bomb in unison and that just isn't going to happen.
In fact watching Villa tonight, that team would struggle in the Championship next season.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 16, 2016 22:28:28 GMT
I think that they could. They will have to fight like rabid dogs to do it, but on their performance today it is possible.
Listening to Talksport now and the general consensus seems to be that they were awful today but Leicester were poor too.
Sounds like the fans, the players and the staff know that they've gone already.
It was an entertaining game but that was because they were both so awful. I know Leicester are top but I really don't know how. As for Villa, they are quite simply shit, relegation is inevitable.
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Post by skip on Jan 16, 2016 22:46:07 GMT
What was that team called last season, who stood no chance? Leicester !! True but they had a manager with a bag of guns in the shed in his mind.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jan 16, 2016 23:04:00 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 16, 2016 23:16:21 GMT
And that is assuming they will only lose another 4 games Not happening, they're down.
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Post by samba :) on Jan 16, 2016 23:17:46 GMT
Defo no.
Love see them get past Chelsea on the last day of the season
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Post by march4 on Jan 16, 2016 23:19:40 GMT
Villa will go down, but they will push Swansea into 20th.
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Post by lordb on Jan 16, 2016 23:24:33 GMT
Be a major achievement not to finish bottom.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 16, 2016 23:34:40 GMT
They could be another Leeds or Sheff Weds and be away for awhile. It's a toxic club at the moment.
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Post by JetBlack on Jan 16, 2016 23:37:55 GMT
Can't see it myself, but they'll give it a damned good go.
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Post by staffsvilla on Jan 17, 2016 7:30:04 GMT
According to this report, they'll be lucky to avoid a double relegation. Raised a chuckle if nothing else
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