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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 0:04:45 GMT
What a wank thread.
And the subject heading just to get people to read it.
It's like sticking your dick in the glory hole only to find out your nan is on the other side.
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Post by retired1 on Dec 28, 2015 0:08:33 GMT
What a wank thread. And the subject heading just to get people to read it. It's like sticking your dick in the glory hole only to find out your nan is on the other side. Thats not as pervy as it sounds. Anyone in leek or cheadle will tell you,that. In biddulph its complulsory. But the Glory Hole pub closed down a few years ago now.
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 28, 2015 1:13:41 GMT
When Burton Albion starts getting people wearing their kit in Orlando, Chicago, Dallas, Indonesia, Singapore and Hong Kong. I'll listen to him.... Stokelona is only going forward from here on in. We're not at the top 4 level yet but were doing our damn best to knock them off and progress. Stoke in my lifetime has become a household name in the USA and the footballing world again, that is something to behold.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 8:16:18 GMT
We are at our glass ceiling. Our club has a stadium that holds 28k. Top 10 is the limit of our club and ambition. The best we can hope for is a freak run in a cup. If we want to expand the stadium to around 35k, attract more investment across all levels of the club then our ceiling will increase. It's not rocket science. Sorry but I don't agree, putting another 7000 on our gate will make very little difference. Gate receipts are around 10% of our turnover, the majority of the money we spend comes from prize money and TV money. If however our current owners decided to go mad and chuck an extra million in a year and start investing aka Man City, Chelsea then yes of course, we could possible compete for a top 6 place. Personally I wouldn't want that, crazy maybe but we're a club that is run on a sound financial basis and at some point the TV money will dry up, the clubs with massive debt will suffer apart from the ones with very wealthy benefactors. Keep our club in local hands and run like a profitable business and we should be able to maintain top 10 for the foreseeable future with the possibility of picking up the odd cup and playing in Europe. Let's not forget where we were 10 years ago and clubs such as Bolton, Leeds, Wednesday to name a few. Top 10 and signing players we have done in the last 5 years is more than any of us could have dreamed of a short while ago. Let's be realistic and not big time Charlie's. We are at our glass ceiling. Our club has a stadium that holds 28k. Top 10 is the limit of our club and ambition. The best we can hope for is a freak run in a cup. If we want to expand the stadium to around 35k, attract more investment across all levels of the club then our ceiling will increase. It's not rocket science. I might have agreed with you until recently but I think Leicester are proving that medium sized clubs don't really have a glass ceiling - in the sense of a ceiling which it is IMPOSSIBLE to break through. That's not to say Leicester WILL win the league, or that we will win the league. But Leicester's results late last season and so far this season show that, although unlikely, it isn't impossible for a well run middle ranking club to win the League. It is unlikely, but it can happen. And if a thing can happen, then sooner or later it probably will. I appreciate finances are not the be all and end all when taking into account crowds, with the extended tv money on offer and in response to Basford below, who kindly disliked my post and made a flippant remark about crowd competition - no I don't think it is all about that either. Is it even 10% of the revenue? I think we've made wonderful progress from where we were only just a few seasons ago - in terms of value for money signings and also being able to attract the likes of Shaqiri et al. Not to mention the football on offer and how we are viewed in the media nowadays - that all helps in the mix. However, when we talk about the fabled next level and glass ceilings then you are starting to mix with bigger clubs. Leicester are a poor example in December of a season where everything they hit is turning to gold. Is it sustainable? Time will tell. My point about increasing the stadium is all about attracting the next level of player again and growing the club. What are we using as a selling point other than "The Premier League gives you more money than any other league?". That's fine if you go toe to toe with a similar ranked club from abroad. We'll win every time. What about when we go toe to toe with another club in this league that can offer the same, if not slightly better package than you? Do we turn round to a player and say "Come and play in this 28k stadium that will blow your brains out in December because we can't be arsed to fill in a corner" or do we say "Come and play for this club that now has a great tradition for playing good football, enhancing footballers careers in front of a 35k seater Stadium that is full every week, with a club that has the infastructure of regularly competing for a Top 8 place and a Europa League spot as a minimum". Everything adds to the mix and we are miles behind off the pitch IMO.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 28, 2015 10:15:45 GMT
What a wank thread. And the subject heading just to get people to read it. It's like sticking your dick in the glory hole only to find out your nan is on the other side. A man speaking from experience? And if it's that wank why bother a) reading it and, b) responding on it?
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