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Post by partickpotter on Dec 10, 2015 21:31:00 GMT
I don't know maybe just maybe they don't invite the press to IRA supporting shin digs and they don't tend to put records on the internet of what was said? Anyway I don't think we're going to agree as you don't realise you're wrong so I'll call it a day on this thread rather than go round in endless circles. Yes fair enough. I'll second that. Appreciate your comments - you're not wrong in criticising how Corbyn is being portrayed in the media. And you've made your point well. But, he is the author of his own misfortunes to a large degree by his indulgent conduct in the past. Well, that's what I think! BTW - watch out for your new pal. You might not recognise him in his new clothes, but he's unchanged. Best avoided. He just kills threads stone dead.
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Post by unabomber on Dec 10, 2015 21:34:11 GMT
It's four days plus old from twitter if there was any truth in it it would be the biggest story going and the guy would rightly be hang, drawn and quartered, as it is just seems a nasty whiff of unsubstianted anti semitism, an age old trick which i'd have thought you would have had more sense than to swallow. I must admit FYD, the news website in Huddy's link does look like the kind of place where Starkiller and David Icke wouldn't look out of place. Let's wait see if it's verified...besides, if it were true the Tory media's eye of Soron would probably have it pulled as a "threat to national security".
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 10, 2015 21:42:19 GMT
I'll second that. Appreciate your comments - you're not wrong in criticising how Corbyn is being portrayed in the media. And you've made your point well. But, he is the author of his own misfortunes to a large degree by his indulgent conduct in the past. Well, that's what I think! BTW - watch out for your new pal. You might not recognise him in his new clothes, but he's unchanged. Best avoided. He just kills threads stone dead. Yep I think you've made some very fair points, Corbyn not talking to both sides is certainly something that has made me consider my own view but it just wasn't quite convincing enough for me to condemn him as a terrorist supporter. I appreciate the reasoned discussion though!
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Post by unabomber on Dec 10, 2015 21:42:43 GMT
I'll second that. Appreciate your comments - you're not wrong in criticising how Corbyn is being portrayed in the media. And you've made your point well. But, he is the author of his own misfortunes to a large degree by his indulgent conduct in the past. Well, that's what I think! BTW - watch out for your new pal. You might not recognise him in his new clothes, but he's unchanged. Best avoided. He just kills threads stone dead. how on earth do you equate a lifetime of political activity campaigning for peace, decency and equality "indulgent"? That is just a very odd thing to say...it really is. It saddens me how media brow beaten people have become in the UK and drink in whatever "facts" the popular press places in front of them. there's only one person killing this thread old bean and it aint muggins here. You really are struggling to articulate anything reasonably this evening.
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Post by unabomber on Dec 10, 2015 21:57:28 GMT
you know, this thread started off in good spirit and a good discussion surrounding Trump brew up. Then by page 5 Partickle, FYD and the Carp ensure that they degenerate the whole thing into yet another Corbyn bashing session. And when they are subsequently caught out and exposed as having zero to contribute to an informed discussion they have the nerve to say they're not playing and other folks on here are ruining the thread, name calling and engaging in circular arguments.
you couldn't make it up!
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Post by unabomber on Dec 10, 2015 21:58:16 GMT
I'll second that. Appreciate your comments - you're not wrong in criticising how Corbyn is being portrayed in the media. And you've made your point well. But, he is the author of his own misfortunes to a large degree by his indulgent conduct in the past. Well, that's what I think! BTW - watch out for your new pal. You might not recognise him in his new clothes, but he's unchanged. Best avoided. He just kills threads stone dead. Yep I think you've made some very fair points, Corbyn not talking to both sides is certainly something that has made me consider my own view but it just wasn't quite convincing enough for me to condemn him as a terrorist supporter. I appreciate the reasoned discussion though! he hasn't made a single fair point. not one. Back to the thread: www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-35060868
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 10, 2015 22:25:31 GMT
It's four days plus old from twitter if there was any truth in it it would be the biggest story going and the guy would rightly be hang, drawn and quartered, as it is just seems a nasty whiff of unsubstianted anti semitism, an age old trick which i'd have thought you would have had more sense than to swallow. I haven't "swallowed" it. I'ts as yet unsubstantiated.
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Post by unabomber on Dec 11, 2015 2:58:54 GMT
old Trumpy is now saying we have a "massive muslim problem" here in the UK. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/10/donald-trump-responds-uk-petition-criticism-muslims“The politicians of the UK should watch Katie Hopkins … many people in the UK agree with me,” “The United Kingdom is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem. Everybody is wise to what is happening, very sad! Be honest.” What an absolute spanner this bloke is. It's the same as hate preaching. The thing is though 42% of Republican voters support a ban on entry. Scary stuff.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 11, 2015 6:31:16 GMT
It's four days plus old from twitter if there was any truth in it it would be the biggest story going and the guy would rightly be hang, drawn and quartered, as it is just seems a nasty whiff of unsubstianted anti semitism, an age old trick which i'd have thought you would have had more sense than to swallow. I haven't "swallowed" it. I'ts as yet unsubstantiated. You've eagerly reported it as a tory front bencher blah de blah, no mention till now of it being unsubstianted. As I said it would be the biggest story in the UK if true.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 11, 2015 9:23:53 GMT
Back to Donald Trump, I rather liked this comparison from the excellent Scottish author Christopher Brookmyre...
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Post by unabomber on Dec 11, 2015 12:36:41 GMT
She's jacked in The Sun and is now "writing" for The Daily Mail...another company that is headquartered offshore and pays no tax in the UK, yet still tells the UK's thickest twats who they should all be hating.
Morons.
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Post by nietzsche on Dec 11, 2015 13:20:58 GMT
She's jacked in The Sun and is now "writing" for The Daily Mail...another company that is headquartered offshore and pays no tax in the UK, yet still tells the UK's thickest twats who they should all be hating. Morons. Excellent insight!
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Post by unabomber on Dec 11, 2015 13:22:37 GMT
She's jacked in The Sun and is now "writing" for The Daily Mail...another company that is headquartered offshore and pays no tax in the UK, yet still tells the UK's thickest twats who they should all be hating. Morons. Excellent insight! Are you Derida? Are you Derida? Are you Derida in disss-guise? and so forth...
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 11, 2015 13:53:40 GMT
If anyone wants to start a petition banning the toxic loon (I'm talking about Trump btw ) from entering this MB, feel free to go for it...
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Post by unabomber on Dec 11, 2015 14:04:23 GMT
I think that went over their heads. x
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 11, 2015 18:27:01 GMT
I think that went over their heads. x Hello ************** so predictable, meltdown again ?
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 11, 2015 18:28:09 GMT
If anyone wants to start a petition banning the toxic loon (I'm talking about Trump btw ) from entering this MB, feel free to go for it... I thought you were on about the toxic loon Mr Cliff, he appears to be running amok again.
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Post by nietzsche on Dec 11, 2015 18:34:58 GMT
If anyone wants to start a petition banning the toxic loon (I'm talking about Trump btw ) from entering this MB, feel free to go for it... I thought you were on about the toxic loon Mr Cliff, he appears to be running amok again. I think you have missed out the word "Richard" or should that be "Richards"?
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 11, 2015 19:46:24 GMT
If anyone wants to start a petition banning the toxic loon (I'm talking about Trump btw ) from entering this MB, feel free to go for it... I thought you were on about the toxic loon Mr Cliff, he appears to be running amok again. We're on the case
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 11, 2015 20:05:34 GMT
I thought you were on about the toxic loon Mr Cliff, he appears to be running amok again. I think you have missed out the word "Richard" or should that be "Richards"? As in Richard head you mean very fitting for the basket case.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 11, 2015 20:09:01 GMT
I thought you were on about the toxic loon Mr Cliff, he appears to be running amok again. We're on the case Thankless task Sal, the man obviously has serious issues.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 11, 2015 20:49:41 GMT
We're on the case Thankless task Sal, the man obviously has serious issues. Is ************** Harry? Serious question because the latest version combined both Harry and **************'s styles. Aggression and bampottery. Anyway - good riddance.
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 12, 2015 13:52:05 GMT
Thankless task Sal, the man obviously has serious issues. Is ************** Harry? Serious question because the latest version combined both Harry and **************'s styles. Aggression and bampottery. Anyway - good riddance. Well, as you know Cliff I Deny All Allegations Richard's real name is Harry Webb, could there be a link there?
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Post by salopstick on Dec 13, 2015 20:55:06 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2015 7:25:04 GMT
But are told we must be more tolerant , Islam the religion of peace and tolerance my fuckin arse it is.
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Post by manmarking on Dec 14, 2015 15:50:40 GMT
Two completely different things. Israel is a nation state, Jews are a religious sect/race depending on your view (many on here believe that religions and races are two different things). The countries on that list haven't banned Jews in the way that Trump is advocating banning Muslims. They've banned Israelis, just as the many countries that boycotted/banned South Africa during the apartheid era weren't banning Christians as a whole. Also worth noting that banning Israelis entails banning Muslims and Christians too.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 14, 2015 16:47:52 GMT
Two completely different things. Israel is a nation state, Jews are a religious sect/race depending on your view (many on here believe that religions and races are two different things). The countries on that list haven't banned Jews in the way that Trump is advocating banning Muslims. They've banned Israelis, just as the many countries that boycotted/banned South Africa during the apartheid era weren't banning Christians as a whole. Also worth noting that banning Israelis entails banning Muslims and Christians too. rubbish. 75% is Jewish they are prepared to omit the other 25% just to make sure they catch them all The fact any race, religion, nationality is banned is just as Bigoted.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 14, 2015 16:49:03 GMT
Israel has a population of roughly eight and half million. Just under two million of these Israeli Citizens are Muslim.
Some live in Gaza & The West Bank and in the Occupied Territories. Some do not. Within these two million are various different groups Sunni Ghajar Alawite etc.
There is also no definitive 'Jew' either..given that they are a collection of Diaspora.
Arab Druze (130,000) serve in the Israeli Armed Forces. Arab Muslims do not.
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Post by manmarking on Dec 14, 2015 17:31:30 GMT
Two completely different things. Israel is a nation state, Jews are a religious sect/race depending on your view (many on here believe that religions and races are two different things). The countries on that list haven't banned Jews in the way that Trump is advocating banning Muslims. They've banned Israelis, just as the many countries that boycotted/banned South Africa during the apartheid era weren't banning Christians as a whole. Also worth noting that banning Israelis entails banning Muslims and Christians too. rubbish. 75% is Jewish they are prepared to omit the other 25% just to make sure they catch them all The fact any race, religion, nationality is banned is just as Bigoted. So you'd presumably agree that it's bigoted of Israel to make it nigh-on impossible for citizens of the following countries to enter? Afghanistan Algeria Bahrain Egypt Eritrea Indonesia Iran Iraq Jordan Kuwait Lebanon Libya Malaysia Mauritania Morocco Oman Pakistan Qatar Saudi Arabia Somalia South Sudan Sudan Syria Tunisia United Arab Emirates Yemen Citizens of all of the above countries have to seek special dispensation from Jerusalem before entering, which in practice means they're not allowed in. Besides which, why is it "rubbish" to point out that there's a huge difference between banning citizens of a specific nation state and banning people based on their religious beliefs?
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Post by salopstick on Dec 14, 2015 17:37:47 GMT
It's just as bigoted.
This trump shit is just an excuse to have ago at one man while conveniently ignoring the rest
It's all tit for tat
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