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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:01:09 GMT
If this is the best we can do, then put the reserves out for the second leg and let the whole thing go, the first team clearly aren't interested in this competition and actually look like they're trying to throw the game.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:02:40 GMT
As usual the headless chickens are the upset fans who jump straight in there with their insults. They call themselves fans! Anyone who is a fan can't help but be upset but this tie is only one quarter of the way through. We could have been far worse off than we are! Too many of our key players have not been playing very well. Credit must also be given to Liverpool who have played extremely well. It is essential Hughes doesn't make panic changes. The players who started can still do a job but they need to be given a rocket and then the chance to turn things round. Let's hope Bojan can improve this next half but also everyone else. Nothing to do with not being a proper fan. The players look like they aren't trying and can't be arsed with the league cup at all.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:21:21 GMT
If this is the best we can do, then put the reserves out for the second leg and let the whole thing go, the first team clearly aren't interested in this competition and actually look like they're trying to throw the game. I would be embarrassed if I had written that shite..tongue in cheek or not. I am embarrassed yes, but not because of what I wrote.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:26:20 GMT
I am embarrassed yes, but not because of what I wrote. then you should start watching netball instead Bollox. If the team are utterly shite then I'm entitled to say so.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:30:07 GMT
Bollox. If the team are utterly shite then I'm entitled to say so. How so? It takes a special kind of person to be embarrased about sthg they had absolutely no part in. One can be embarrassed to be a fan, and that rarely happens but tonight's performance clearly shows to me that the team couldn't be arsed with this competition and didn't try. That is utterly shameful.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:34:05 GMT
One can be embarrassed to be a fan, and that rarely happens but tonight's performance clearly shows to me that the team couldn't be arsed with this competition and didn't try. That is utterly shameful. So you watched the same game that I did and came to that conclusion? Impressive. You don't seem to know much about Jürgen Klopp, do you? You can get dicked, play badly even, but still be up for it and try. You can get totally outclassed by a superior team and manager, and yet still try. Tonight they don't look like they tried. This Liverpool team is nothing special. At our best we could and should have beaten them easily, but it's not losing that is my issue, it is and always has been when we don't TRY. The team tonight cannot be arsed. It's as simple as that.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:38:09 GMT
You can get dicked, play badly even, but still be up for it and try. You can get totally outclassed by a superior team and manager, and yet still try. Tonight they don't look like they tried. This Liverpool team is nothing special. At our best we could and should have beaten them easily, but it's not losing that is my issue, it is and always has been when we don't TRY. The team tonight cannot be arsed. It's as simple as that. You think they don't try? You think they can't be arsed. I have some bad news for you. Stoke does not have a plan B (as ol' Toni showed) and Klopp knows how to play against sides like stoke. That doesn't excuse not trying. Liverpool are not THAT good. We are shite tonight, it's as simple as that. Shite.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:43:43 GMT
Yes we are getting dicked but, in the context of where we have been in the last two months and the fact this is a bloody S/F, the overall performance has been embarrassing. You can't get away from that, whether or not it is not to your liking. Shit happens, from time to time. very true but he said we were throwing the game. we're not we're just playing badly. as you say, shit happens It seems like we're throwing the game. That's how bad this performance is. I have no way of knowing for certain if the team is throwing the game, but what other explanation could there be for being at home in the semi finals of a major cup competition, one of our best chances of silverware for decades, and the players trot out a performance like this! Where's the fire? Where's the determination? Lose by all means but die trying. We're just dying on our feet though.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:47:29 GMT
If this is honestly the best we can do, we needn't turn up at Anfield. This team is not progressing any further in this competition and I'm not going to waste my valuable time watching or listening to the game after tonight's disgraceful showing. Let's forget it, put the reserves out at Anfield and focus on the league, as they say.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:49:25 GMT
Good job this isn't a league game. Top 6? Play like this and we'll be lucky not to be bottom 6.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:51:37 GMT
If this is honestly the best we can do, we needn't turn up at Anfield. This team is not progressing any further in this competition and I'm not going to waste my valuable time watching or listening to the game after tonight's disgraceful showing. Let's forget it, put the reserves out at Anfield and focus on the league, as they say. From a position of 1-0 down? It was always going to need a result from us at Anfield, time we broke our duck there. Well we aren't getting a result at Anfield so not much point turning up for the home leg either if that's the case. We should have won this. We didn't, because we didn't want to. I predict a thrashing at Anfield, possibly a reverse of last season's 6-1. Face it - our players don't want to be in this competition. That was obvious tonight.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 21:53:02 GMT
I need to go onto one or two other fan forums because the impression I get from reading this thread is that we must have the most fickle and unfair fans in the whole country. The comments I have read are embarrassing to say the least. If a performance is utterly shit then people will say so. You can lose, but not be shit. Tonight though, we were shit. Shit like we haven't been for a very long time.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 22:06:50 GMT
If this is honestly the best we can do, we needn't turn up at Anfield. This team is not progressing any further in this competition and I'm not going to waste my valuable time watching or listening to the game after tonight's disgraceful showing. Let's forget it, put the reserves out at Anfield and focus on the league, as they say. Ooh a tantrum. In defeat, you see people's true colours and character. Pointing out that our team tonight were utter shite is not a tantrum. Not sure why being a fan of a club means you have to blindly support them no matter what. After tonight's capitulation I'm not wasting my fucking time watching us get hammered at Anfield - for make no mistake, that is exactly what is going to happen. I have better things to do with my time and as a fan it's the only real form of protest I have available. If it was possible within the rules, we should accept we've blown it and concede the tie. As it stands we should minimise the risk of injury to our top players and send the reserves out. Who knows, they might actually be up for it and go out and get a result! The first team clearly can't so what have we got to lose. Forget the cup now, focus on the league (and the other cup).
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 22:14:39 GMT
Pointing out that our team tonight were utter shite is not a tantrum. Not sure why being a fan of a club means you have to blindly support them no matter what. After tonight's capitulation I'm not wasting my fucking time watching us get hammered at Anfield - for make no mistake, that is exactly what is going to happen. I have better things to do with my time and as a fan it's the only real form of protest I have available. If it was possible within the rules, we should accept we've blown it and concede the tie. As it stands we should minimise the risk of injury to our top players and send the reserves out. Who knows, they might actually be up for it and go out and get a result! The first team clearly can't so what have we got to lose. Forget the cup now, focus on the league (and the other cup). That is one of the most pathetic reactions I've ever read to a defeat. And you are having a tantrum. Fool. We will have to respectfully disagree.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 22:17:18 GMT
If a performance is utterly shit then people will say so. You can lose, but not be shit. Tonight though, we were shit. Shit like we haven't been for a very long time. Perhaps I don't have to look at other forums! This is clearly an embarrassing comment from someone who begins to imagine he is a Stoke fan and he believes he can wield the "shit" word like confetti . I saw a game where we were initially out played by a team who were organised very well tactically. I felt very disappointed. Liverpool's excellent play made five or six of our players ineffectual. I saw a response from Hughes who altered his tactics and used bold substitutions. Hughes played many players forward and the defence backed them up very well. Very sad we lost but we are not out of the cup by any means. Can we go to Liverpool and win? Well I believe we can because I believe in my team. I am a fan! It is simple really. You do not have to come to games if you think Stoke and its players are so bad! I don't think Stoke and its players are so bad. Tonight though was inexcusable. I sat through the holocaust season. I know what bad is. But even then, in those dark days, it was actually a lack of skill that did it. The players mostly did try back then, they were just utterly outclassed. Tonight though, we didn't try, and for that the team deserves every bit of abuse it gets. Lose, by all means. No shame in that. But at least try.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 22:19:48 GMT
No chance of getting through now. Our best chance was something like a 2-0 win tonight against a team missing several of their better players and who picked up several injuries during the game and we still lost. Sorry to be a downer about it but we're well and truly fucked. I agree. Fucked is what we are, although only for this cup tie. We aren't suddenly a shit team.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 22:23:43 GMT
Pointing out that our team tonight were utter shite is not a tantrum. Not sure why being a fan of a club means you have to blindly support them no matter what. After tonight's capitulation I'm not wasting my fucking time watching us get hammered at Anfield - for make no mistake, that is exactly what is going to happen. I have better things to do with my time and as a fan it's the only real form of protest I have available. If it was possible within the rules, we should accept we've blown it and concede the tie. As it stands we should minimise the risk of injury to our top players and send the reserves out. Who knows, they might actually be up for it and go out and get a result! The first team clearly can't so what have we got to lose. Forget the cup now, focus on the league (and the other cup). I really hope your comments come back and bite you then we will really see the miserable type of fan you clearly are! I really hope they come back and bite me as well. Tell you what, if we DO win the overall tie after the second leg, please do come back to this thread and shove these posts right up my arse. I'll gladly apologise and admit I was wrong.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 22:25:05 GMT
Sorry to say, but I reckon Hughes is mostly responsible due to his "don't lose the tie here" that someone said (If that is true it's fucking wank management), well it was most probably lost here. Why the fuck don't we go for it for once, roll the fucking dice? No, can't do that. We got off to a God awful start, which improved a bit, but was still shit, and we conceded. Second half saw an improvement, and they started time wasting, embarrassing for them. Still not enough, I don't know what was up with Bojan, but he was wank. Terrible stuff really. I'm as optimistic as the next person, but if you think we are going to turn Liverpool over 2-0 at Anfield, then you're deluded. I'd love anyone on this forum to shove this in my face after the second leg, but it won't happen. Harsh to blame Hughes as the players didn't turn up. Hughes must share some blame as he picks and motivates the team, however it was the whole team at fault today, not any one individual nor the manager.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 5, 2016 22:30:08 GMT
Just a blip tonight. Lets give the young whipper snappers a chance v Doncaster.It will be a different game at there base. More character and sharpness and we will be wembley bound. Better to give the young whipper snappers a chance at Anfield. Who knows, they might actually try to win the game!
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