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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 21:32:11 GMT
Shawcross in there, getting the plaudits at the moment and rightly so.....
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Post by Linx on Nov 22, 2015 21:37:09 GMT
Yes, but he still gives us grudging praise. His verdict against Chelsea was that they "battered" us (er, how many shots on target did they have?) and on the Saints game we apparently picked their pocket, which implies that they were the better team and we stole a cheeky win against the odds. Is it just me, or is Garth a complete knob?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 21:38:00 GMT
Thanks a bunch Garth. Give him all the exposure so he leaves in the summer FFS! Can you do anything right, son?  |
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Post by unknown182 on Nov 22, 2015 22:18:14 GMT
Shawcross didn't score did he?. Why on earth has he picked him?
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 22, 2015 22:22:15 GMT
Garth Crooks is a frog eyed fucktard who spouts more shit than someone a drowning in a sewerage treatment works. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Linx on Nov 22, 2015 22:29:19 GMT
Garth Crooks is a frog eyed fucktard who spouts more shit than someone a drowning in a sewerage treatment works. Gouranga. That's exactly what I meant to write, Albert, but I just couldn't find the right words. |
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Post by whydelilah on Nov 22, 2015 22:33:47 GMT
Yes, but he still gives us grudging praise. His verdict against Chelsea was that they "battered" us (er, how many shots on target did they have?) and on the Saints game we apparently picked their pocket, which implies that they were the better team and we stole a cheeky win against the odds. Is it just me, or is Garth a complete knob? I think he just used the "pick pocket" line to tie in with his Fagin reference. Nobody that watched that game could have come to the conclusion that we somehow pinched the victory. |
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Post by Linx on Nov 22, 2015 22:40:48 GMT
Yes, but he still gives us grudging praise. His verdict against Chelsea was that they "battered" us (er, how many shots on target did they have?) and on the Saints game we apparently picked their pocket, which implies that they were the better team and we stole a cheeky win against the odds. Is it just me, or is Garth a complete knob? I think he just used the "pick pocket" line to tie in with his Fagin reference. Nobody that watched that game could have come to the conclusion that we somehow pinched the victory. [/quote Perhaps Garth should avoid laboured metaphors and stick to spouting plain-talking shite instead. Figurative language just ain't his bag. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 22:44:29 GMT
I didn't hold out much hope against the saints away ,however as usual I was made to look a prick by our boys.
In the end I was disappointed with our win as I thought we deserved to score at least 4 and I'm sure a 4-1 score line would be a better reflection of the game.
Their one goal from a pen by Wolly which we got away with.
To be honest 4-1 at Saints would have alerted more teams to our attack so I'm happy we took the points and remain dark horses for other unsuspecting teams who think we are lucky and play long ball.
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 22, 2015 23:15:23 GMT
Garth Crooks was a great player for Stoke.
He would score 15-20 a season for our current side.
I don't want anyone to notice how good Ryan is. He must finish his career at Stoke.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 22, 2015 23:52:18 GMT
Yes, but he still gives us grudging praise. His verdict against Chelsea was that they "battered" us (er, how many shots on target did they have?) and on the Saints game we apparently picked their pocket, which implies that they were the better team and we stole a cheeky win against the odds. Is it just me, or is Garth a complete knob? Yes, its just you.......and one or two other knobs. |
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Post by sifta on Nov 23, 2015 0:08:21 GMT
Yes, but he still gives us grudging praise. His verdict against Chelsea was that they "battered" us (er, how many shots on target did they have?) and on the Saints game we apparently picked their pocket, which implies that they were the better team and we stole a cheeky win against the odds. Is it just me, or is Garth a complete knob? Normally I think dedication is an admirable thing, but working this hard to find something to be offended by, seems to me to be time that could be better spent surely? |
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Post by Linx on Nov 23, 2015 7:11:34 GMT
Yes, but he still gives us grudging praise. His verdict against Chelsea was that they "battered" us (er, how many shots on target did they have?) and on the Saints game we apparently picked their pocket, which implies that they were the better team and we stole a cheeky win against the odds. Is it just me, or is Garth a complete knob? Normally I think dedication is an admirable thing, but working this hard to find something to be offended by, seems to me to be time that could be better spent surely? Moaning about Garth is an Oatcake sport, or haven't you noticed? I wasn't aware that I was offended, but thank you so much for bringing it to my attention. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 23, 2015 10:30:56 GMT
Crooks is a figure for derision for many on here. I've never seen a feasible explanation for it.
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Post by heworksardtho on Nov 23, 2015 11:35:51 GMT
Obviously they didn't see Garth pull on a Stoke shirt for Stoke , it's embarrassing what they say on here about him ,when racism was rife when he played it was a pleasure to see him score against other teams when there fans were abusing him
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Post by jpm64 on Nov 23, 2015 14:43:03 GMT
Obviously they didn't see Garth pull on a Stoke shirt for Stoke , it's embarrassing what they say on here about him ,when racism was rife when he played it was a pleasure to see him score against other teams when there fans were abusing him I did see him play many times for Stoke and he was indeed magnificent to watch. However whilst those of us lucky enough to see him play for us have great memories of his time here it seems Garth does not share those fond memories !! |
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Post by Northy on Nov 23, 2015 14:48:41 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 23, 2015 15:56:29 GMT
Obviously they didn't see Garth pull on a Stoke shirt for Stoke , it's embarrassing what they say on here about him ,when racism was rife when he played it was a pleasure to see him score against other teams when there fans were abusing him I did see him play many times for Stoke and he was indeed magnificent to watch. However whilst those of us lucky enough to see him play for us have great memories of his time here it seems Garth does not share those fond memories !! That is a total fallacy, and its really disappointing to read these comments. As stated Crooks had put up with a lot of shit to break through, banana skins and all that crap. Its sad that so much negative stuff is still unnecessarily projected onto him on this board. The trouble with these forums is that its so easy to hide behind a keyboard and to pick holes in others and not to recognise their qualities. I'm not saying he's the best pundit in the world, so what?.... but at least we should give him some credit for what he has achieved against huge odds, and I think its great that a working class kid from Stoke from his background got a decent job at the BBC. Let's hope he's not the last. See below www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/big-interview-garth-120815/ Before we talk about your Spurs memories, tell us how you broke through at Stoke. Garth Crooks: "I broke through at Stoke courtesy of some fantastic professionals and people who, quite frankly, were ahead of their time. The most important man in football for me was Tony Waddington, arguably the best manager to have ever run Stoke City Football Club. To give young black players a chance to play the professional game during such an early period in our development portrayed a quality few possessed. The greatest goalkeeper I ever saw, and my youth team coach at the time, Gordon Banks, put me through and extraordinary regime. He went to great lengths to produce a work ethic that never existed before and one that has stayed with me all my working life. I would also have to doff my hat to the likes of Denis Smith, my first ever captain, who was a giant in so many ways as far as I was concerned. The likes of Terry Conroy and Jackie Marsh who became lifelong friends and later Adrian Heath and Lee Chapman both of whom went on to win trophies with Everton and Leeds United respectively. All of these individuals played a role in my development in one way or another at Stoke." What do you remember about those early days at the old Victoria Ground? Garth: "The most valuable memory for me playing at the Victoria Ground was making my debut. The transition from being a Stoke supporter to becoming one of their players was just amazing. I spent the first few moments just staring at where I used to stand in the Boothen End. No-one can imagine what a thrill that was for me, not to mention the most extraordinary feeling. To pull on that red and white shirt and run onto the pitch as a first team player was electrifying. I’ve played for four other clubs since but none of them ever quite matched that feeling." |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 23, 2015 16:23:35 GMT
I did see him play many times for Stoke and he was indeed magnificent to watch. However whilst those of us lucky enough to see him play for us have great memories of his time here it seems Garth does not share those fond memories !! That is a total fallacy, and its really disappointing to read these comments. As stated Crooks had put up with a lot of shit to break through, banana skins and all that crap. Its sad that so much negative stuff is still unnecessarily projected onto him on this board. The trouble with these forums is that its so easy to hide behind a keyboard and to pick holes in others and not to recognise their qualities. I'm not saying he's the best pundit in the world, so what?.... but at least we should give him some credit for what he has achieved against huge odds, and I think its great that a working class kid from Stoke from his background got a decent job at the BBC. Let's hope he's not the last. See below www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/big-interview-garth-120815/ Before we talk about your Spurs memories, tell us how you broke through at Stoke. Garth Crooks: "I broke through at Stoke courtesy of some fantastic professionals and people who, quite frankly, were ahead of their time. The most important man in football for me was Tony Waddington, arguably the best manager to have ever run Stoke City Football Club. To give young black players a chance to play the professional game during such an early period in our development portrayed a quality few possessed. The greatest goalkeeper I ever saw, and my youth team coach at the time, Gordon Banks, put me through and extraordinary regime. He went to great lengths to produce a work ethic that never existed before and one that has stayed with me all my working life. I would also have to doff my hat to the likes of Denis Smith, my first ever captain, who was a giant in so many ways as far as I was concerned. The likes of Terry Conroy and Jackie Marsh who became lifelong friends and later Adrian Heath and Lee Chapman both of whom went on to win trophies with Everton and Leeds United respectively. All of these individuals played a role in my development in one way or another at Stoke." What do you remember about those early days at the old Victoria Ground? Garth: "The most valuable memory for me playing at the Victoria Ground was making my debut. The transition from being a Stoke supporter to becoming one of their players was just amazing. I spent the first few moments just staring at where I used to stand in the Boothen End. No-one can imagine what a thrill that was for me, not to mention the most extraordinary feeling. To pull on that red and white shirt and run onto the pitch as a first team player was electrifying. I’ve played for four other clubs since but none of them ever quite matched that feeling."Garth hasn't done himself any favours though has he? |
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Post by march4 on Nov 23, 2015 18:26:30 GMT
Garth Crooks was a great player for Stoke. He would score 15-20 a season for our current side. I don't want anyone to notice how good Ryan is. He must finish his career at Stoke. Sorry to disagree. Garth would barely have had a sniff of a game in the Prem at Stoke just like Shenton. A young Garth is always going to be behind experienced internationals in our starting 11. His best chance would be dropping down a league and hope to make an impression that way. This is no reflection on Garth's undoubted talent, but is more about the way football has changed over the years. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Nov 23, 2015 18:57:01 GMT
Are you kidding he would have walked into today's starting 11 and would have been a 20 goal a season striker , watch his goals on YouTube and remember he was playing against proper hard defenders not the powder puff lot you get in today's prem
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 23, 2015 19:13:29 GMT
That is a total fallacy, and its really disappointing to read these comments. As stated Crooks had put up with a lot of shit to break through, banana skins and all that crap. Its sad that so much negative stuff is still unnecessarily projected onto him on this board. The trouble with these forums is that its so easy to hide behind a keyboard and to pick holes in others and not to recognise their qualities. I'm not saying he's the best pundit in the world, so what?.... but at least we should give him some credit for what he has achieved against huge odds, and I think its great that a working class kid from Stoke from his background got a decent job at the BBC. Let's hope he's not the last. See below www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/big-interview-garth-120815/ Before we talk about your Spurs memories, tell us how you broke through at Stoke. Garth Crooks: "I broke through at Stoke courtesy of some fantastic professionals and people who, quite frankly, were ahead of their time. The most important man in football for me was Tony Waddington, arguably the best manager to have ever run Stoke City Football Club. To give young black players a chance to play the professional game during such an early period in our development portrayed a quality few possessed. The greatest goalkeeper I ever saw, and my youth team coach at the time, Gordon Banks, put me through and extraordinary regime. He went to great lengths to produce a work ethic that never existed before and one that has stayed with me all my working life. I would also have to doff my hat to the likes of Denis Smith, my first ever captain, who was a giant in so many ways as far as I was concerned. The likes of Terry Conroy and Jackie Marsh who became lifelong friends and later Adrian Heath and Lee Chapman both of whom went on to win trophies with Everton and Leeds United respectively. All of these individuals played a role in my development in one way or another at Stoke." What do you remember about those early days at the old Victoria Ground? Garth: "The most valuable memory for me playing at the Victoria Ground was making my debut. The transition from being a Stoke supporter to becoming one of their players was just amazing. I spent the first few moments just staring at where I used to stand in the Boothen End. No-one can imagine what a thrill that was for me, not to mention the most extraordinary feeling. To pull on that red and white shirt and run onto the pitch as a first team player was electrifying. I’ve played for four other clubs since but none of them ever quite matched that feeling."Garth hasn't done himself any favours though has he? his ability as a pundit is questionable just like all other pundits. Football punditry is generally of a very low standard, but the level of abuse he gets on here is out of order imho considering what he contributed to the club and the challenges he faced to establish himself as professional. the article contradicts the misperception that he has betrayed his roots. The expectations placed on him on this forum are unrealistic imho. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 23, 2015 19:34:50 GMT
Garth Crooks was a great player for Stoke. He would score 15-20 a season for our current side. I don't want anyone to notice how good Ryan is. He must finish his career at Stoke. Sorry to disagree. Garth would barely have had a sniff of a game in the Prem at Stoke just like Shenton. A young Garth is always going to be behind experienced internationals in our starting 11. His best chance would be dropping down a league and hope to make an impression that way. This is no reflection on Garth's undoubted talent, but is more about the way football has changed over the years.[/quote Crooks would have been great playing off Mamady Sidibe. |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Nov 23, 2015 21:08:03 GMT
Garth said some good stuff saterday afternoon on final score.
He would be a success today.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 24, 2015 8:28:00 GMT
Garth hasn't done himself any favours though has he? his ability as a pundit is questionable just like all other pundits. Football punditry is generally of a very low standard, but the level of abuse he gets on here is out of order imho considering what he contributed to the club and the challenges he faced to establish himself as professional. the article contradicts the misperception that he has betrayed his roots. The expectations placed on him on this forum are unrealistic imho. I think the problem is, we're used to pundits like Keown who practically masturbate to their favourite club on TV. crooks often comes across embarrassed when talking about Stoke, like he gets bullied in the bbc cafeteria. He isn't getting stick for nothing. |
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 24, 2015 9:07:26 GMT
Garth said some good stuff saterday afternoon on final score. He would be a success today. He said he'd scored 50 top flight goals before he was 23, he was actually almost 25. He also said in his day if you didn't score 20+ goals a season you weren't in the team. He only managed that once in his career. It did sound good at the time tho. Until you check his facts. |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 24, 2015 9:53:41 GMT
Garth said some good stuff saterday afternoon on final score. He would be a success today. He said he'd scored 50 top flight goals before he was 23, he was actually almost 25. He also said in his day if you didn't score 20+ goals a season you weren't in the team. He only managed that once in his career. It did sound good at the time tho. Until you check his facts. Pisser  |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 24, 2015 10:05:36 GMT
He said he'd scored 50 top flight goals before he was 23, he was actually almost 25. He also said in his day if you didn't score 20+ goals a season you weren't in the team. He only managed that once in his career. It did sound good at the time tho. Until you check his facts. Pisser Classic Garth |
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Post by potterglen on Nov 24, 2015 19:10:18 GMT
Crooks is a figure for derision for many on here. I've never seen a feasible explanation for it. Err let me think.........because he's a twat. |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Nov 24, 2015 23:48:15 GMT
He said he'd scored 50 top flight goals before he was 23, he was actually almost 25. He also said in his day if you didn't score 20+ goals a season you weren't in the team. He only managed that once in his career. It did sound good at the time tho. Until you check his facts. Pisser He played 164 times for Stoke and scored 53 goals, 1 in 3, What's a Pisser about that. |
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