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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2015 1:07:04 GMT
The stats are for the season....... No it's when people can't see what's in front of them and then when it's presented to them they ignore it anyway. Like now. I haven't refused to use them, I use them when it's the last resort to back up what I'm seeing. Like the Moses thread I started when people were saying he was shit and he quite obviously wasn't. The defensive stats were for the season (hilarious 7 year old girl rolly smiley face) but you still point blank refused to acknowledge that. Apparently goals conceded isn't a good gauge of defensive competence in Bayern's world...... Oooh insults, classy as ever. Not point blank refuse, they just clearly had floors like penalties not counting as defensive errors. And if you've only conceded 10 goals but it's down to the same players making the same mistakes then it's not that great is it? Because making the same mistake time and time again is bad defending. That's what we were doing. For half of this great defensive season, we couldn't defend a set piece for love nor fucking money.....it wasn't good defending!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 1:11:55 GMT
The defensive stats were for the season (hilarious 7 year old girl rolly smiley face) but you still point blank refused to acknowledge that. Apparently goals conceded isn't a good gauge of defensive competence in Bayern's world...... Oooh insults, classy as ever. Not point blank refuse, they just clearly had floors like penalties not counting as defensive errors. And if you've only conceded 10 goals but it's down to the same players making the same mistakes then it's not that great is it? Because making the same mistake time and time again is bad defending. That's what we were doing. For half of this great defensive season, we couldn't defend a set piece for love nor fucking money.....it wasn't good defending! Insults fuck me you're precious. So ignoring the actual stats again above I see, these ones don't suit your argument.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2015 1:15:47 GMT
Oooh insults, classy as ever. Not point blank refuse, they just clearly had floors like penalties not counting as defensive errors. And if you've only conceded 10 goals but it's down to the same players making the same mistakes then it's not that great is it? Because making the same mistake time and time again is bad defending. That's what we were doing. For half of this great defensive season, we couldn't defend a set piece for love nor fucking money.....it wasn't good defending! Insults fuck me you're precious. So ignoring the actual stats again above I see, these ones don't suit your argument. Not precious at all, there's just no need for it. Never has been, never will be. I've said why, they need context, something I believe I've provided. Similarly if we scored 15 goals all season and Diouf got them all and people said we were shit up front. It'd be bollocks!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 2:36:26 GMT
The defensive stats were for the season (hilarious 7 year old girl rolly smiley face) but you still point blank refused to acknowledge that. Apparently goals conceded isn't a good gauge of defensive competence in Bayern's world...... Oooh insults, classy as ever. Not point blank refuse, they just clearly had floors like penalties not counting as defensive errors. And if you've only conceded 10 goals but it's down to the same players making the same mistakes then it's not that great is it? Because making the same mistake time and time again is bad defending. That's what we were doing. For half of this great defensive season, we couldn't defend a set piece for love nor fucking money.....it wasn't good defending! That 3rd paragraph is the epitome of being negative for the sake of it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 10, 2015 10:56:14 GMT
What did Adam actually do? Whelan stood up to it, he had to, Bojan and Adam were pretty much AWOL all game. We were getting run through down the middle with ease and he those pair having poor games were the reason. I've said this several times on here, but even last season certain teams ran through us with ease. With midfield containing Glenn Whelan and Steven N'Zonzi, too.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 10, 2015 11:22:16 GMT
If we're going to have it strictly right, Chelsea's two best chances came through Whelan. So fucking what. They are poorly performing team who still possess outstanding individual talent and they will come through you over the course of a game. Every one of our lot was a 7 at least. Crazy thread. Exactly! That's why I brought up Whelan in an earlier reply, not to knock him but to point out that even WITH him and N'Zonzi, some sides carved us open last season. Why not single Whelan out for blame?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 10, 2015 11:32:01 GMT
We have conceeded 2 goals with Adam in the team this season - both goals against Watford.
So we are talking 2 goals across 450 minutes of Premier League football.
An average of 0.4 goals per game. Basically the best defensive record in the league
Stick that statistic in your pipehole and eat it.
The problem with Adam hasnt been the defensive side, its more that his shooting has become wank and hes not influencing the game far enough up the pitch for my liking. Hes become better at focusing on his defensive duties but we have lost some of his creativity.
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 10, 2015 12:02:02 GMT
We have conceeded 2 goals with Adam in the team this season - both goals against Watford. So we are talking 2 goals across 450 minutes of Premier League football. An average of 0.4 goals per game. Basically the best defensive record in the league Stick that statistic in your pipehole and eat it. The problem with Adam hasnt been the defensive side, its more that his shooting has become wank and hes not influencing the game far enough up the pitch for my liking. Hes become better at focusing on his defensive duties but we have lost some of his creativity. It's not the player focusing better or losing anything. Last year it was N Zonzi-----------Whelan ---------Adam-------- This year it's Adam----------Whelan -------Bojan-------- He's being played much deeper, Bojan doesn't drop in to allow Adam forward and Adam can't get forward and back as well as N Zonzi could so he's just staying deep and spraying passes around.
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Post by Bick on Nov 10, 2015 12:54:30 GMT
I struggle to work him out in this role.
Whelan is the unsung hero, but if you watch him you see exactly what he brings - it's just not the case with Charlie.
Not coming for the ball from defence, not breaking forwards and not breaking play up a whole lot... so what's his job?....
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Post by vahl on Nov 10, 2015 13:23:55 GMT
I struggle to work him out in this role. Whelan is the unsung hero, but if you watch him you see exactly what he brings - it's just not the case with Charlie. Not coming for the ball from defence, not breaking forwards and not breaking play up a whole lot... so what's his job?.... His job is pretty simple, isn't it? Being an offensive minded player in a defensive position can only allow one style of play. Spray the ball around and make things happen. He has suffered with a lack of goals as a result but, this season his range of passing has been a joy to watch.
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Post by lazymatt on Nov 12, 2015 10:49:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 10:57:23 GMT
Some of those are hilarious to be fair, although my favourite was definitely the one about Costa - "Diego Costa looks like the 3rd Mario Brother who was edged out of the family plumbing business for being a brutal alcoholic."
"This guy is like the comic book villain from an Arsenal Fanzine." - /u/NineFeetUnderground
"Doesn't matter who you support, we can all mutually hate Charlie Adam." - /u/RobertTheBloke1
"Charlie Adam, may your crops be devoured by locusts." - /u/shap_half
"May the denizens of your chosen world-building strategy game revolt and torch your food stockpiles!" - /u/JudLew "Adam is a prick." - /u/Bey_Harbor_Butcher
"No, just openly a huge clumsy oaf." - /u/cloud4197 "Also: he's a complete bellend." - /u/Astral_Fox
"Charlie Adam brings his own pack of chipolatas to his family Christmas dinner and doesn't share them." - /u/smaclver "He's just a shit Roy Keane" - /u/rufnek2kx
"Try imagining Charlie Adam as a baby. You can't. It's just not possible." - /u/assholetriceratops
"He looks like someone who spends half their life in a bookies." - /u/Grealish
"It's hard to believe he's younger than Cristiano Ronaldo." - /u/TheThroesOfRebellion
"what else do you expect from someone who looked like a 36 year old bricklayer at the age of 14" - [deleted]
"I bricklayer is a bit generous. I'd say he looks more like the bloke running the shitty, toxic burger van at the worst fairground in England. Or an unemployed sluaghter-house cleaner. Or, you know those guys who clean the buses when they're at the depot after a full days shit and litter having amassed?
He looks a bit like the bloke who mends their gloves. With superglue and his own teeth. Or, you know in old adventure films when they'd come to a chasm, and they'd throw a rock down and wait to hear it land so they could approximate the chasm's depth? Charlie Adam is that rock they threw." - /u/Furthur_slimeking
"Fucking hate Charlie Adam. Gummy, gaptooth scumbag" - [deleted]
"You could shoot BB's through those gaps." - /u/e2390lopez
"Fuck Charlie Adam and his 2 first names." - /u/NeMANja_the_Matic
"Charlie Adam is some fucking scumbag." - /u/ignore_my_name
"He's such a waste of air." - /u/oldpainless
"Easily my most hated player in the league, a true cunt... But fuck me his technique is good. " - /u/RicHii3
"it's such a shame that he is such a massive asshole." - /u/Keskekun
"Mordor's favorite Orc strikes again." - /u/Dr_Prodigious
"The goblin strikes again" - /u/Jezamiah
"Charlie Adam is a quality football player don't care what anyone says!" - /u/footydave
"Jesus that cunt can really whack a football." - /u/Panencephalitis
"Adam definitely votes UKIP" - /u/AfricanRain
"He just hit it so he didn't have to run" - /u/TenF
"The bloke who looks like a bus driver" - /u/SimonCFC
"good old Charlie Adam. Aggressive, ugly and fat. A proper old school footballer." - /u/pulmoferrum
"Adam's behaviour is just flat out weird these days. He's like the project manager in the office who everyone knows doesn't do his job properly. There's a new director coming in, and redundancies are in the pipeline. Everyone's on their best behaviour, trying to impress, but Adam's arriving late, going out for smoke every 15 minutes, watching porn at his desk and leaving early." - /u/goonerundercover
"He looks like the kind of guy who'd spill your pint and demand that you buy him a new one" - /u/tinf_
"He has always seemed to me like he is a man who keeps two warm, sweaty pork pies and a few snotty used tissues in his pockets at all times." - /u/lurker093287h
"He looks like he could be Ronaldo's drunken uncle by marriage." - /u/Kaiagin
"Excellent review of Charlie "your face is my ashtray" Adam" - /u/zoogeo
"It's like he's devoted his life to personify every negative stereotype about Britons." - /u/suicidebypie
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Post by lazymatt on Nov 12, 2015 11:01:01 GMT
I cant help but think of us as having the Super villain of Arsenal fanzine fame in our team, seems fitting for us.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Nov 12, 2015 11:07:55 GMT
There's nothing like being popular and well respected and from this it would appear Charlie is neither. Bet it really bothers him....NOT.
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Post by pyrus on Nov 12, 2015 11:43:42 GMT
"He just hit it so he didn't have to run"
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Post by rawli on Nov 12, 2015 12:44:11 GMT
"He just hit it so he didn't have to run" That was my favourite too. And probably true.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 12, 2015 12:58:41 GMT
Absolutely love this gif.... Sanchez reaction is hilarious. Bless.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 12, 2015 15:43:21 GMT
Charlie adam is such a throwback to an 80's player but with modern technical ability, I fucking love the guy in our squad...He can change a match himself with his class left foot at anytime but he can also lose it with that one challenge he has in him every match which is akin to a lorry smashing a mini into a pulp... an I'll timed tackle of course
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Post by dozintheseventees on Nov 12, 2015 15:57:00 GMT
Interesting that MOST of the comments (some are very funny) centre on his appearance and anything else bar his football. He'a a bloody good player and I'm glad to have him here. He (rightly) got a standing ovation when he left the pitch V Chelsea so..........let the children play if it amuses them.
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Post by reddipotter on Nov 12, 2015 16:02:05 GMT
The way that he has reinvented himself more than once in order to provide what the team needs earns him great respect.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 16:24:14 GMT
Interesting that MOST of the comments (some are very funny) centre on his appearance and anything else bar his football. He'a a bloody good player and I'm glad to have him here. He (rightly) got a standing ovation when he left the pitch V Chelsea so..........let the children play if it amuses them. Well said. Some of those comments are very funny to be fair but I agree with our all the way. Charlie Adam has been superb for us and continues to do a job when called upon.
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Post by potterblade on Nov 12, 2015 16:43:01 GMT
His rep wouldnt be half as bad if he played for another team
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Nov 22, 2015 10:56:40 GMT
Goooarn Charles
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Post by dexta on Nov 22, 2015 11:06:36 GMT
just seen him looks like he's holding his dick.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 22, 2015 12:19:57 GMT
Who at 7 miles covered more ground than any other Stoke player yesterday?
The same player who does it every time he plays 90 minutes.
Fat, unfit, Charlie Adam.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2015 12:35:29 GMT
The final cog to making this team great will be replacing him! Conna wait.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 13:41:41 GMT
He's a character is our Charlie. IMHO, apart from losing his rag now and again, he's given me a great deal of enjoyment, and I will never ever forget that winner against the team I despise most of all. Never ever. One Charlie Adam, there's only one Charlie Adam. If he never played for us again ( not that that is likely to happen), I would still never forget the man. In fact I'd go as far as to say, I would kiss his feet!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 13:53:52 GMT
Why? Is he scratching his knee! Lol.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 22, 2015 14:35:53 GMT
Or has he got a pair of tweezers???
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 22, 2015 19:27:53 GMT
Top top top player
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