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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 12:27:50 GMT
I'm not overly bothered, my view doesn't get obstructed but like others have mentioned, it's like going to a film and missing the ending. I always remain convinced we will score, 3-0 down but with 15 mins to go, I do sadly think to myself, a goal every 5 mins is doable. For me, football takes over that Saturday so it doesn't matter if I take a bit longer getting home, I've used up the whole day anyway. And when the team have put a shift in (result doesn't matter for this), they should be applauded off. If a waiter has been good you show your appreciation and tip, you don't sneak out while they aren't looking Anyway, just posting to ask, what's the actual difference to leaving 5 mins early and 5 mins after the final whistle? Genuine question (I'm on a bus so it doesn't make any difference). About an hour if you've parked on the South Car Park at the end nearest to the stadium (i.e, the furthest away from the exits).
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Post by stokie25 on Nov 8, 2015 12:31:21 GMT
No Costa....'it smells like "team" spirit' ??? see what i did there?
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Post by wrighter on Nov 8, 2015 12:32:49 GMT
If it had been Shawcross or Adam doing that, it would of been a definite yellow. Pedro didn't do it on purpose, but it was reckless. sadly this is so true
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Nov 8, 2015 12:33:44 GMT
I disagree. If someone left 10 minutes before you. You are s better supporter. Your there supporting your team an extra 10 minutes than the guy that left so hence his support stops at that point. Percentage wise. Your support is more. So better. :-) Quality, not quantity.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2015 12:36:47 GMT
Each to their own but I'll never understand why people leave early during a game like that which is so tense and finely poised. Would you leave the cinema before the big twist ending, or pull out just as you get to the vinegar strokes? I also think Bayern gets way too much stick on here. I don't agree with him all the time, and this season he seems to have become possessed by Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh, but he's asking reasonable questions and rather than try to answer them he just gets a lot of hysterical screaming. He's not like that tit biscuit, who's just a troll that should've been fucked off months ago. I remember this guy mostly making good insightful observations - someone who understand there can be positives in defeat and things to improve in victory. Latterly though he posts increasingly melodramatic nonsense. Shame. Hope he gets his head screwed back on again.
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Post by winston on Nov 8, 2015 12:39:39 GMT
To be fair to Pedro he was quite shook up about it and it affected his game for a bit. Lovely to see Pieters class by shaking hands and accepting his apology once he'd been treated. Compare that to Ramsey still sulking.
Coasta actually seemed genuinely concerned while Pieters was on the ground which surprised me.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 8, 2015 12:42:11 GMT
Each to their own but I'll never understand why people leave early during a game like that which is so tense and finely poised. Would you leave the cinema before the big twist ending, or pull out just as you get to the vinegar strokes? I also think Bayern gets way too much stick on here. I don't agree with him all the time, and this season he seems to have become possessed by Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh, but he's asking reasonable questions and rather than try to answer them he just gets a lot of hysterical screaming. He's not like that tit biscuit, who's just a troll that should've been fucked off months ago. I think the reason he gets so much stick chief, is because he routinely makes outlandish and quite frankly ridiculous comments, seemingly to provoke a reaction, I.e. Geoff Cameron (international footballer) is shit, we should loan him out to fucking Woking. He's very black and white, either you're shit, or you're good. There's no in-between. Do you think with that particular example we might have a case of the pot calling the kettle 'outlandish' though mate?
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Post by roostershair on Nov 8, 2015 12:47:04 GMT
Utter disgrace how he feigned injury and received treatment for what was barely a scratch for almost 4 minutes, the bloke hardly touched him, Pieters should take a leaf out of the Newcastle Captain Courageous Perez's book. After that shocking tackle by stoke thug Woolscheild last week he hardly had any treatment, just a whiff of smelling salts and a rub with the magic sponge and he was back on his feet again, to rapturous applause from both sets of fans, true pro that he is. And had to endure what can only be described as a physical assault for the rest of the game by the Stoke hard men.. Even Diego Costa shrugged off heavy challenge after challenge yesterday without so much as a murmur, just got on with it and did his job, not like the play acting Pieters. I hope SCFC take action against Pieters for this namby pamby incident and I hope when he looks himself in the mirror he is downright ashamed of himself. Hahaha
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Post by potterblade on Nov 8, 2015 12:47:54 GMT
Isn't Ryan doing a great job. Delighted to see two clear lines of 4 at times yesterday! Seems like its been a while.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 8, 2015 12:50:46 GMT
I like what Smiffy said when someone brought it up on Radio Stoke. He said if it was him Costa had said it to he would have replied, "I don't stink anywhere near as much as your performace does fella." OS.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 8, 2015 12:53:13 GMT
I think the reason he gets so much stick chief, is because he routinely makes outlandish and quite frankly ridiculous comments, seemingly to provoke a reaction, I.e. Geoff Cameron (international footballer) is shit, we should loan him out to fucking Woking. He's very black and white, either you're shit, or you're good. There's no in-between. Do you think with that particular example we might have a case of the pot calling the kettle 'outlandish' though mate? Am I the one getting shit loads of flak from like every regular member on this board lol? I've made the odd outlandish remark but on the whole, I'd say I'm usually pretty measured or at least rational. I've certainly never been one to run a campaign against one or two players simply because I don't like them. So no, we're not.
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 8, 2015 12:55:07 GMT
For the last 15 minutes Chelsea were playing like a team that walked the league last year.(Apart from scoring)
It was pretty much all hands to the pump defence. No one was going to look good. We did manage to restrict them to very few clear sights of goal so the shape and organisation of the team must have been right. Cameron did fill a space in front of the CBs. It would have been nice if we could have kept the ball for longer when we got it back, but since Zonz left we don't really have any players with the that particular skill. The midfield was pushed very deep but we should remeber that with slightly better execution we could have scored a couple on the break in that period despite being pushed so deep by a top team taking big risks to get back into the game.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 8, 2015 12:57:43 GMT
Well done Arnie. He gave a mature answer to an immature journo. OS.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 8, 2015 12:59:50 GMT
Game completely passed him by, Jedinak would have been amazing to bring on there. I like Cameron but looks like for the first time since he's been hear he's on the bench for a sustained period of time. Wollys shirt to lose. Looked like a player who had been out injured for me.
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Post by stokie25 on Nov 8, 2015 13:03:17 GMT
loved the 'oh Georgie Berry' chant ??? He must've wondered what the fuck was going on
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Post by clarkeda on Nov 8, 2015 13:04:58 GMT
Game completely passed him by, Jedinak would have been amazing to bring on there. I like Cameron but looks like for the first time since he's been hear he's on the bench for a sustained period of time. Wollys shirt to lose. Looked like a player who had been out injured for me. I agree but the game did pass him by, and by MH rules he's out the team until someone's form drops. Which is what I said.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 8, 2015 13:07:50 GMT
Why beat about the bush then? Are you scared the nasty people will come out and call you names too? I've been on here way too long to be bothered about getting called names. No, i just can't remember who it was who actually said it. Pretty sure they got banned though. If i were you I'd let the mods do their job and get on with talking about football more. I think you're a cunt as well. OS.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 8, 2015 13:09:19 GMT
Looked like a player who had been out injured for me. I agree but the game did pass him by, and by MH rules he's out the team until someone's form drops. Which is what I said. Yup. Can't drop Wolly, was superb. Maybe Adam at a push but even he was great yesterday. So yup, Geoff is on the bench until someone's form drops. Still buzzing after yesterday.
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Post by milky on Nov 8, 2015 13:11:03 GMT
No heart, no DNA, too many prima donnas and no bottle That's our squad isn't it ? Oh the same old shit will be spouted by the usual suspects the next time we have two bad results on the bounce. Strange how they disappear after a win.... Anyone would think they had agendas. ...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 8, 2015 13:13:25 GMT
This one thread thing is a mess.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 8, 2015 13:18:03 GMT
I thought we'd win today. They are absolutely bollocks at the minute, we should have won by more. You're talking absolute bollocks. Chelsea may not be getting the results you'd expect but they are not playing that badly. Today being a case in point. A fantastic and thrilling win for us today topped by a goal of the highest quality but we needed plenty of luck to go on top of the quality and application we showed. Sort of how you'd expect a win against a team like Chelsea to come about. Luck? Plenty. First in getting to half time level when they bossed the game and second as they attacked towards the end when Pedro hit the post, Hazard shot wide from an excellent position and the could've / should've penalty. Chelsea will click soon I'm sure - have a great run and dish out some severe thumping so. I'm just glad we got them before that roll started. I thought they played much better against us in the cup. They were then absolutely dreadful vs an average Liverpool side. They were then very mediocre against Kiev. And I thought they were poor last night. They had 4 shots on target and that's how it felt, I didn't feel overly threatened by them. The didn't test our backline and Butland had 2 saves to make. That wasn't luck, they barely threatened Butland, it was good defending. We were lucky in the cup game. I'm not sure they will, it's gone well past a blip and some serious questions about players and the manager have to be asked.
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Nov 8, 2015 13:20:18 GMT
Eddie Niedzwiecki pulling out his flute in celebration.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 8, 2015 13:20:30 GMT
No contact, no foul for me. I've never bought this intent bollocks. If you don't kick them it inner a foul. So the rules don't actually matter? You just make up your own? Can't say I'm surprised..... I think they're an ass on the whole yes. I agree with what Beardy said, the striker there for me has to take the contact. If he chooses to avoid that then tough titty.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 8, 2015 13:23:49 GMT
Thought Butland was a bit flappy in the first half. Poor punch from a corner and one where he left it when he should have grabbed it. Great save with his foot though. The dipping one from Ramires was standard imo. But other than that he had very little to do, which was nice. And you really think he should save that? Pah! I didn't actually post that but the punch that butland missed, was missed because it flicked off a head right in front of him causing the ball to deviate. As for our goal, if butland should have saved that, begovic should have saved Arnie's. He got a good hand on it after all. Butland dived past the Liverpool goal, it was bad goalkeeping on a shot he had time to see. Having the ball twatted at you from 8 yards out as you're scampering from one post to another is a different matter. He will probably be disappointed but there's no way he's saving that.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2015 13:28:16 GMT
You're talking absolute bollocks. Chelsea may not be getting the results you'd expect but they are not playing that badly. Today being a case in point. A fantastic and thrilling win for us today topped by a goal of the highest quality but we needed plenty of luck to go on top of the quality and application we showed. Sort of how you'd expect a win against a team like Chelsea to come about. Luck? Plenty. First in getting to half time level when they bossed the game and second as they attacked towards the end when Pedro hit the post, Hazard shot wide from an excellent position and the could've / should've penalty. Chelsea will click soon I'm sure - have a great run and dish out some severe thumping so. I'm just glad we got them before that roll started. I thought they played much better against us in the cup. They were then absolutely dreadful vs an average Liverpool side. They were then very mediocre against Kiev. And I thought they were poor last night. They had 4 shots on target and that's how it felt, I didn't feel overly threatened by them. The didn't test our backline and Butland had 2 saves to make. That wasn't luck, they barely threatened Butland, it was good defending. We were lucky in the cup game. I'm not sure they will, it's gone well past a blip and some serious questions about players and the manager have to be asked. Blimey Bayern - you're taking on too many arguments, spreading yourself too thin. Fair enough you didn't feel threatened - I was nervous as anything in that last 20 minutes. But, as a man, I thought, who refers to stats as a last resort, you've dropped in a bollocks stat into this exchange. None of those examples I mentioned above feature in your shots on target stat. And we got lucky on all three occasions. Seems to me the Chelsea fans reaction isn't one of rage more disbelief. They did more than enough in the two games against Stoke to win both, but, of course, lost twice. Tough shit to them. But they know if they keep playing like they did against us they will get back on track.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 8, 2015 13:29:19 GMT
So the game passed Cameron by (it did) but Adam who put in a similar performance and the game passed him by in a similar way but he didn't. Ah this board.
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 8, 2015 13:32:10 GMT
So the rules don't actually matter? You just make up your own? Can't say I'm surprised..... I think they're an ass on the whole yes. I agree with what Beardy said, the striker there for me has to take the contact. If he chooses to avoid that then tough titty. That's nonsense mate. No player should have to risk a potentially serious injury just to win a free kick or penalty. The fault is with the player who commits to a tackle but gets no ball.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 13:33:42 GMT
He isn't far off becoming as laughable though. His reasonable questions usually compile of "He's shit" or "He's always shit" and "He's not good enough to play that role". Which you wouldn't mind so much if we didn't have the best squad since the 1970's or arguably ever,and also weren't enjoying our best days since he has been watching us play football. It's his constant negativity even after back to back wins against the champions of this country for instance which are making him a laughing stock on here. He says he enjoyed last night's win but how can he be enjoying it when in pretty much every thread (and let's face it he spends every single waking hour engrossed in this messageboard) he is talking about how shit certain players were or are and how we should have won by more. Not as if he will be bothered but I can't take anything he says serious anymore just like Mr Biscuit. I think it's fair to say we're yet to entirely convince this season and there are question marks over some areas of a our summer business. Mitigating circumstances given we couldn't do much about the Ryan or Nzonzi situations, but you can count the number of times we've played well this season on one hand. I think we'll come good, as usual, but I think there are a few areas why eyebrows might justifiably be raised. I wouldn't particulaly argue against any of that Rob,although we haven't been anywhere near as bad as some have tried making out on here. It's just the constant negativity I have a problem with.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 8, 2015 13:34:58 GMT
I thought they played much better against us in the cup. They were then absolutely dreadful vs an average Liverpool side. They were then very mediocre against Kiev. And I thought they were poor last night. They had 4 shots on target and that's how it felt, I didn't feel overly threatened by them. The didn't test our backline and Butland had 2 saves to make. That wasn't luck, they barely threatened Butland, it was good defending. We were lucky in the cup game. I'm not sure they will, it's gone well past a blip and some serious questions about players and the manager have to be asked. Blimey Bayern - you're taking on too many arguments, spreading yourself too thin. Fair enough you didn't feel threatened - I was nervous as anything in that last 20 minutes. But, as a man, I thought, who refers to stats as a last resort, you've dropped in a bollocks stat into this exchange. None of those examples I mentioned above feature in your shots on target stat. And we got lucky on all three occasions. Seems to me the Chelsea fans reaction isn't one of rage more disbelief. They did more than enough in the two games against Stoke to win both, but, of course, lost twice. Tough shit to them. But they know if they keep playing like they did against us they will get back on track. Not at all. I just wasn't and I'm a very nervy watcher of Stoke. Last resort? I have used them because people are talking bollocks and saying stuff that didn't happen was happening. That's not a last resort, that's proving people wrong. Then the abuse just proves that. Nobody, not one person has offered a decent counter argument, especially on the Adam thing. No we didn't get lucky. Butland being an excellent 'keeper isn't luck. Hazard playing like a bloke low on confidence isn't luck. It's their mindset at the minute, they are playing like a team who are 16th and who can't buy a win the league. That isn't luck. The Chelsea fans I've seen are too busy throwing toys out of the pram. They should have won the League Cup but I thought they were poor last night and deserved sod all. Their form is shocking and has been for 3 months, he will do well to get them into the Europa.
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Post by march4 on Nov 8, 2015 13:35:28 GMT
He almost became another centre back.
Geoff played his part in our victory, but I can't see him getting back in the starting 11 unless injuries strike.
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