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Post by harryburrows on Nov 1, 2015 19:17:10 GMT
He may be the best manager around but all his employers breath a sigh of relief when he leaves . It rarely ends well for him which is very strange considering how successful he usually is
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 1, 2015 19:26:34 GMT
Mourinho, like many foreign coaches in PL, can produce the goods given unlimited funds. But he has shown when the going gets tough he's shite. For me Mark Hughes, TP, Gary Monk, Big Sam and a few others, are far better suited to the lower echelons of PL football.
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 1, 2015 19:34:20 GMT
For what it's worth I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole the mad fucker. The thread was from a lively debate in the pub last night.
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Post by norman conquest on Nov 1, 2015 19:52:17 GMT
If he thinks there,s a conspiracy against Chelsea a few months here with the likes of Twatkinson, Dean, Probert, etc etc would have him on ward 1 at the Harplands in a fuckin strait jacket
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 1, 2015 22:33:10 GMT
I think Coatsey would retire and take up table tennis
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Post by whydelilah on Nov 1, 2015 22:37:00 GMT
On a serious note, it must be shit to be a shit fan right now. Boring football under Van Gaal and getting criticsm from a legend in the form of Scholes only rubs salt in the wound.
It looked at one point that it was a formality that Rooney would bream Shearers record. Definitely not now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 22:46:08 GMT
Everyone hates us anyway, so he would be right at home here. Mourinho is an absolute genius when it comes to management, how anybody can say they would prefer sparky over him is just mental. In my opinion hughes has had a poor season so far too and you could pick faults with his tactics in every match, even the ones we won.
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Post by burberrybassist on Nov 1, 2015 22:48:56 GMT
Nah I'd rather wait for Liverpool to finish 5th and poach Klopp
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Nov 1, 2015 23:47:32 GMT
Absolutely! Mourinho is the best manager in football.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 2, 2015 7:34:31 GMT
Mourinho, like many foreign coaches in PL, can produce the goods given unlimited funds. But he has shown when the going gets tough he's shite. For me Mark Hughes, TP, Gary Monk, Big Sam and a few others, are far better suited to the lower echelons of PL football. Agree 100%.
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Post by steve66 on Nov 2, 2015 8:00:35 GMT
No no no
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Post by cerebralstokie on Nov 2, 2015 8:31:25 GMT
No. Genius he may be, but the way he treated Dr. Carneiro was a disgrace. I suspect that some of his players think the same and this may be at the root of alleged discontent in the dressing room at Chelsea. He would not have shed loads of money to spend here, He seems to have a problem in lifting his team in adversity (in spite of their efforts at the Brit last week). I don't think he will be in post at Chelsea for much lomger.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 8:49:32 GMT
Only surprised more on here haven't said yes....permanently walks around with unwarranted conspiracy theories, he constantly whinges and moans and blames the media and referees perception of him and his team for all his ills and for every loss on the pitch.sounds like about 80% of the people on this board to me! The only massive difference being he actually knows what he is talking about when it comes to football management
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Post by Gods on Nov 2, 2015 8:58:15 GMT
He's not for me.
I liked him when he first arrived at Chelsea, someone who could give it back to Sir Alex Ferguson.
But he seems to have become a bit of a twat in recent times.
I like Hughes, talks us up but doesn't really do the whole mind games thing, I think I am more comfortable with a pure 'football man' like that.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 2, 2015 9:17:38 GMT
He's always been a twat, it's just before we were more insulated from it given our immediate concerns were the likes of Ian Holloway and Dario.
Think it's unfair to suggest he can't do it with limited funds, given he won the European Cup with Porto.
If you've got stability at your club you really shouldn't unseat the manager. I know it's worked in the past for teams like Southampton but by and large it's a bad idea.
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Post by skip on Nov 2, 2015 10:09:38 GMT
instead of Hughesy if he was sacked by Chelsea this weekend? No. Hughes is building a squad whilst the Coates family build a self sufficient Premier League quality club. Mourinho is a short term thinker and doer. And self centred.
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Post by kidsgroveboxxy on Nov 2, 2015 10:28:39 GMT
Mourinho, like many foreign coaches in PL, can produce the goods given unlimited funds. But he has shown when the going gets tough he's shite. For me Mark Hughes, TP, Gary Monk, Big Sam and a few others, are far better suited to the lower echelons of PL football. I see the angle you're coming from, BUT, Gary Monk? Nah, he is a detestable little cunt with no self-respect, humility or dignity. He can fuck right off out the league as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by MilanStokie on Nov 2, 2015 10:35:20 GMT
He's not a better manager He has been very fortunate to only work for the big clubs with loads of resources A couple of years at a Bristol or charlton let's see what he (and other top managers) could do with lower resources Not quite sure this is entirely true. He has a been a number 2, he has managed a lower ranked club already in Portugal that landed him the job at Porto and then won the Champions League with them. The latter was quite a feat in its own right! It's not like he was handed a top job immediately like Sherwood or Monk. I think I would rather have a character around the game like Jose, whether you like him or not. I sometimes struggle to remember who the Norwich manager is because he is boring and quiet.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 2, 2015 10:38:45 GMT
Mourinho, like many foreign coaches in PL, can produce the goods given unlimited funds. But he has shown when the going gets tough he's shite. For me Mark Hughes, TP, Gary Monk, Big Sam and a few others, are far better suited to the lower echelons of PL football. I see the angle you're coming from, BUT, Gary Monk? Nah, he is a detestable little cunt with no self-respect, humility or dignity. He can fuck right off out the league as far as I'm concerned. That's the general concensus on Monk, I agree, but you can't fault his credentials as a coach the same sentiments could be levelled at many other coaches but the bottom line is they are generally doing a good job on a lot less funds than the likes of pellegrini, butt head, Mourinho, Whinger and Klippertyklopp. Several seasons ago many Stokies thought MH was in the same league as Monk is now after his refusal to shake TPs hand after a game vs Fulham and his accusations towards Wilko.
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Post by silverdollar on Nov 2, 2015 10:44:34 GMT
instead of Hughesy if he was sacked by Chelsea this weekend? It's a no brainer. Mourinho is a superior manager to Mark Hughes. Mourinho has a great reputation as manager of top players. He has always had a far superior budget than most. When it comes to motivating and managing what could be respectfully described as average players and working with a small budget there are lots of unknowns. There is no way that I would take any other manager other than Hughes. He has an improving record with us and best of all the players are the centre of attention.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 10:46:58 GMT
Apologies if this has been done, but clear your throats for Jose this weekend. We usually consider former Chelsea beat writer of the now defunct Fulham & Hammersmith Chronicle, Dan Levene a very reliable and knowledgable source of everything Chelsea. He's now a freelancer, working for various outlets such as Eurosport or Get West London (the sort-of F&H Chronicle replacement), but nevertheless, he remains one of the foremost voices of Chelsea coverage across the media and the Internet. So when such a report comes from him, it's something to seriously consider.
It's all over for Jose Mourinho at Chelsea, bar the shouting.
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I hear he could have gone on Sunday - but, like previous sackings, Chelsea are choosing their moment. They want an opportunity that minimises the damage caused to the club. That means balancing the risk that a Mourinho side increasingly riven with divisions continues to lose games, with a moment to give his replacement the longest possible run-up at a debut match.
Sense says, discounting a complete disaster against Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday, that the axe will fall after Stoke on Saturday evening.
No 'emergency press conferences' (as some social media trolls have alluded to), just a simple statement put out via the official club website thanking him for his efforts, but talking about the 'regrettable' nature of recent results. Lunchtime on Sunday, given previous conduct.
-Dan Levene; Eurosportweaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/11/2/9657338/mourinho-will-be-sacked-next-weekend-stoke-city
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Post by rawli on Nov 2, 2015 12:53:07 GMT
A conspiracy theorist who cries thinks the FA is against him and his club? He'd be the perfect Stoke City manager!
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Post by muglump on Nov 2, 2015 14:04:10 GMT
I don't think he's cope with not being able to sign who he pleased. There is, however, as much chance of this happening as the loch Ness monster falling on Elvis
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Post by djduncanjames on Nov 2, 2015 14:21:28 GMT
I don't think he's cope with not being able to sign who he pleased. There is, however, as much chance of this happening as the loch Ness monster falling on Elvis
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Post by superheroantonius on Nov 2, 2015 14:26:20 GMT
rently BBC radio 5 live presenter Gary Richardson claimed on Sportsweek yesterday a Chelsea first team player told him " I would rather lose than win for him (Mourinho) " Very strange?? Maybe Mourinho sees a multi million pound pay off to leave Chelsea for somewhere sunny as quite attractive and wouldn't mind leaving??
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Nov 2, 2015 17:49:59 GMT
rently BBC radio 5 live presenter Gary Richardson claimed on Sportsweek yesterday a Chelsea first team player told him " I would rather lose than win for him (Mourinho) " Very strange?? Maybe Mourinho sees a multi million pound pay off to leave Chelsea for somewhere sunny as quite attractive and wouldn't mind leaving?? Some bloke who met someone who might have met Gary Richardson said some Chelsea player he couldn't say the name of might have said something which might have been about Mourinho....the British press at it's best
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Post by stokey127 on Nov 2, 2015 22:30:01 GMT
He may be the best manager around but all his employers breath a sigh of relief when he leaves . It rarely ends well for him which is very strange considering how successful he usually is True.
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Post by stokey127 on Nov 2, 2015 22:33:36 GMT
Everyone hates us anyway, so he would be right at home here. Mourinho is an absolute genius when it comes to management, how anybody can say they would prefer sparky over him is just mental. In my opinion hughes has had a poor season so far too and you could pick faults with his tactics in every match, even the ones we won. The difference is he needs money without that he is nothing.
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