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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 12, 2015 19:29:45 GMT
Whatever the rights and wrongs it's fucking mental not to be offering him one now. How do you know we won't be offering him a new one? I'm debating why he hasn't previously. I'm referring to it being stated he hasn't been offered one yet so as I say it'll be fucking mental if we aren't drawing one up right this minute.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 12, 2015 19:33:02 GMT
How do you know we won't be offering him a new one? I'm debating why he hasn't previously. I'm referring to it being stated he hasn't been offered one yet so as I say it'll be fucking mental if we aren't drawing one up right this minute. Yeah, going of his current form and past instances with other in form players, I'm sure they are.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 12, 2015 19:33:22 GMT
I'm referring to it being stated he hasn't been offered one yet so as I say it'll be fucking mental if we aren't drawing one up right this minute. Yeah, going of his current form and past instances with other in form players, I'm sure they are. You'd like to think so but I won't be lumping my life savings on it!
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 12, 2015 19:34:26 GMT
Yeah, going of his current form and past instances with other in form players, I'm sure they are. You'd like to think so but I won't be lumping my life savings on it! I obviously have more faith then.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 12, 2015 19:37:53 GMT
You'd like to think so but I won't be lumping my life savings on it! I obviously have more faith then. What that they'll offer him one as soon as he gets back?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 19:38:53 GMT
I obviously have more faith then. What that they'll offer him one as soon as he gets back? Should have been done over the summer.....
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 12, 2015 19:41:59 GMT
I obviously have more faith then. What that they'll offer him one as soon as he gets back? That they must be working on something with his upturn in form. But I guess the right answer is that our suits are just sitting in a room eating pizza's and watching toy story.
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Post by liamo on Oct 12, 2015 19:43:08 GMT
He really is attracting a lot of positive attention, definitely a good time to tie him down for 5 years
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 12, 2015 19:43:57 GMT
What that they'll offer him one as soon as he gets back? That they must be working on something with his upturn in form. But I guess the right answer is that our suits are just sitting in a room eating pizza's and watching toy story. Nope, the right answer is that we've hopefully learned lessons and are being more proactive. Our transfer dealings are improving and hopefully a new deal for Arnie will strengthen that view.
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Post by ParaPsych on Oct 12, 2015 19:45:23 GMT
What that they'll offer him one as soon as he gets back? That they must be working on something with his upturn in form. But I guess the right answer is that our suits are just sitting in a room eating pizza's and watching toy story. Well someone has to preview the North car park cinema entertainment.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 12, 2015 19:48:52 GMT
That they must be working on something with his upturn in form. But I guess the right answer is that our suits are just sitting in a room eating pizza's and watching toy story. Nope, the right answer is that we've hopefully learned lessons and are being more proactive. Our transfer dealings are improving and hopefully a new deal for Arnie will strengthen that view. Lessons about N'zonzi and Begovic? It's easy to beat them with the shitty stick but what lessons should we have learned in all honesty? We wanted them to sign, we offered them contracts, they wanted out. Such is football.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 12, 2015 19:49:58 GMT
That they must be working on something with his upturn in form. But I guess the right answer is that our suits are just sitting in a room eating pizza's and watching toy story. Well someone has to preview the North car park cinema entertainment. That's where I plucked toy story from.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 12, 2015 19:50:16 GMT
Nah, I'm not reading through that. It takes you to it from the off, well it did for me. Another bit of hindsight from July! Even a broken clock is right twice a day! 78000 posts and you got one right bayern? You want an award?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 19:51:46 GMT
It takes you to it from the off, well it did for me. Another bit of hindsight from July! Even a broken clock is right twice a day! 7500 posts and you got one right bayern? You want an award? It was obvious he should have been offered a new deal. We clearly haven't learned from the Fonzy and Bego situations. And only one right? Behave.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 12, 2015 19:57:21 GMT
No contract has been offered to him yet, but I would severely hope before the euro's one is offered Erm........what the fuck? Have we not learned anything. Yes, that slp don't know everything.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 19:58:44 GMT
Erm........what the fuck? Have we not learned anything. Yes, that slp don't know everything. It's easily believable though isn't it? Especially when it should have been done in the summer......
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 12, 2015 20:01:18 GMT
Nope, the right answer is that we've hopefully learned lessons and are being more proactive. Our transfer dealings are improving and hopefully a new deal for Arnie will strengthen that view. Lessons about N'zonzi and Begovic? It's easy to beat them with the shitty stick but what lessons should we have learned in all honesty? We wanted them to sign, we offered them contracts, they wanted out. Such is football. It's about timing though isn't it? Sometimes you have to make a judgment call and make the offer earlier than you'd sometimes want to. It's too late offering a deal once a player has had a long spell of outstanding form as by then he's already been tapped up. In Arnie we have a player of outstanding potential who is worth investing further in. We got him for a song and it makes sense to tie him in and look to his continual improvement. An offer over the summer would have made sense in all honesty. It's not like we haven't extended the contracts of some right shit houses in the not too distant past.
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Post by carinthuan on Oct 12, 2015 20:41:07 GMT
Needs Games. You can't go wrong with that
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Post by Etain Tur-Mukan on Oct 12, 2015 20:46:00 GMT
Calm down - we'll offer him a new deal I'm sure.
If he signs, he signs.
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Post by barcaontrent on Oct 12, 2015 21:54:01 GMT
does anyone know if nzonzi rejected contracts before it ran down to a year left?
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Post by metalhead on Oct 12, 2015 22:00:02 GMT
I really hope we sort this.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 12, 2015 22:40:10 GMT
At the end of last season and all through the close season there were some on here saying we should get shot of Arnie. Some suggesting that Hughes didn't rate him because we were trying to sign Yarmo. Arnie didn't start some of the games at the start of the season and had a few indifferent performances - that added to the questions about him.
Now, after a few excellent performances the Oatcake has decided that the club should have acted ages ago to give him a longer contract?
Really, if the club had extended his contract a while back I'm sure the'd be a fair few slagging the club off for it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 22:41:14 GMT
At the end of last season and all through the close season there were some on here saying we should get shot of Arnie. Some suggesting that Hughes didn't rate him because we were trying to sign Yarmo. Arnie didn't start some of the games at the start of the season and had a few indifferent performances - that added to the questions about him. Now, after a few excellent performances the Oatcake has decided that the club should have acted ages ago to give him a longer contract? Really, if the club had extended his contract a while back I'm sure the'd be a fair few slagging the club off for it. Nope, I was saying it all summer!
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 12, 2015 22:44:44 GMT
erm, what happens if he doesn't want to sign a long term deal? We sell him for cheap and have learnt nothing from the Nzonzi deal You can't make people sign deals.Nzonzi has been wanting to leave for years.Stop being so fucking naive.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 12, 2015 22:51:25 GMT
At the end of last season and all through the close season there were some on here saying we should get shot of Arnie. Some suggesting that Hughes didn't rate him because we were trying to sign Yarmo. Arnie didn't start some of the games at the start of the season and had a few indifferent performances - that added to the questions about him. Now, after a few excellent performances the Oatcake has decided that the club should have acted ages ago to give him a longer contract? Really, if the club had extended his contract a while back I'm sure the'd be a fair few slagging the club off for it. Nope, I was saying it all summer! Many did not. It isn't a given.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 22:56:45 GMT
Nope, I was saying it all summer! Many did not. It isn't a given. I disagree. He's 26, had 2 years left and has been a good if inconsistent player for us with the potential for better. That is always worth a new deal when there's only 2 years left and anything after that means your assets aren't adequately protected. You'd expect a bean counter like Scholes to realise that.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 12, 2015 23:47:12 GMT
Many did not. It isn't a given. I disagree. He's 26, had 2 years left and has been a good if inconsistent player for us with the potential for better. That is always worth a new deal when there's only 2 years left and anything after that means your assets aren't adequately protected. You'd expect a bean counter like Scholes to realise that. You disagree that many on the Oatcake didn't rate Arnie before this purple patch? You do actually read this board rather than posting on it? I've rated Arnie pretty much from day one. But I'd guess he's on £30k/week at the moment. A 4 year contract would need to be on say £45k/week plus. So that's a £9 million plus contract. The club don't just give those away without proper consideration.
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 13, 2015 0:32:42 GMT
I think Arnie still has hopes of playing at the very highest level. He has the talent, and his game is blossoming...therefore it's very unlikely that he will be staying with us beyond summer 2017.
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 13, 2015 3:11:20 GMT
If he is indeed due a new contract then tie him down and quick snap.
He is more often than not a fucking genius for us and a Stoke City legend.
He was Fucking brilliant for Austria this last few days.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 5:20:56 GMT
He really is attracting a lot of positive attention, definitely a good time to tie him down for 5 years If we tie him down to 5 years does he revert back to giving half a season? still worth it in my opinion
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