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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 6:39:50 GMT
Not the name that would have come to my mind first. If I'm honest he's gone completely under the radar for me. Reporters can't pluck the name of a young player at Stoke out of the air, you'd think Silva must have been named by someone from within the club?  www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2015/oct/06/next-generation-2015-20-of-the-best-talents-at-premier-league-clubsIt says much for Mark Hughes’s Stoke revolution and how it has extended beyond the first-team squad that a Benfica underage captain sees his future is best served by moving to the midlands. Luís Silva, a centre-half immediately earning comparisons to Marc Muniesa, arrived in July despite the Lisbon club being eager to keep him. Silva played a starring role for the Portugal Under-17s as they won the FA’s invitational tournament in August, defeating England, Italy and Turkey. Physically imposing and keen to assume the role of defensive organiser, he is also comfortable bringing the ball out from the back. |
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 7, 2015 7:08:31 GMT
Not the name that would have come to my mind first. If I'm honest he's gone completely under the radar for me. Reporters can't pluck the name of a young player at Stoke out of the air, you'd think Silva must have been named by someone from within the club? www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2015/oct/06/next-generation-2015-20-of-the-best-talents-at-premier-league-clubsIt says much for Mark Hughes’s Stoke revolution and how it has extended beyond the first-team squad that a Benfica underage captain sees his future is best served by moving to the midlands. Luís Silva, a centre-half immediately earning comparisons to Marc Muniesa, arrived in July despite the Lisbon club being eager to keep him. Silva played a starring role for the Portugal Under-17s as they won the FA’s invitational tournament in August, defeating England, Italy and Turkey. Physically imposing and keen to assume the role of defensive organiser, he is also comfortable bringing the ball out from the back. With ngoy moha and molina thats four potential breakthroughs over the next couple of seasons, add in shenton and legeyane pardon the spelling from our own findings not poachings a talented pool of young keepers and some younger talented added such as that Belgian defender the future is looking brighter and brighter. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 7, 2015 7:21:40 GMT
Its probably just the fact he has a Brazilian sounding name that it sticks out in our youth team roster. It could be the laziest of lazy reporting
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Post by slother on Oct 7, 2015 7:25:44 GMT
Or maybe he's having a dip in self-confidence and his name was put out there to give him a bit of a fillip. It could be any number of reasons to be honest.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 7, 2015 7:31:48 GMT
Whoever he is, that's a pretty good photo of him.
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Post by lordb on Oct 7, 2015 7:50:40 GMT
How much better does the kit look without a sponsor on it?
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Post by podolipotter on Oct 7, 2015 9:21:33 GMT
As I have said before, if young players are good enough then they are old enough to play at the top level.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 7, 2015 10:10:58 GMT
As I have said before, if young players are good enough then they are old enough to play at the top level. I'm not sure what to make of your comment. On one level it is, of course, true. If an under 18 player really is good enough (and strong enough) to play at the top level then, fine. But very few players that young do play successfully at the top level. Owen, Beckam and Rooney were 3 who did. But most of the others, need time to grow faster, taller or stronger or need time to develop their skills or the mental maturity to flourish at the top level. Most players who graduate from academies to be regular Premier League starters seem to do it gradually between the ages of 18 - 22 or 23 - a tiny minority seem to manage it under 18 - and some of them seem to burn out far too quickly. |
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Post by metalhead on Oct 7, 2015 11:06:42 GMT
As I have said before, if young players are good enough then they are old enough to play at the top level. I'm not sure what to make of your comment. On one level it is, of course, true. If an under 18 player really is good enough (and strong enough) to play at the top level then, fine. But very few players that young do play successfully at the top level. Owen, Beckam and Rooney were 3 who did. But most of the others, need time to grow faster, taller or stronger or need time to develop their skills or the mental maturity to flourish at the top level. Most players who graduate from academies to be regular Premier League starters seem to do it gradually between the ages of 18 - 22 or 23 - a tiny minority seem to manage it under 18 - and some of them seem to burn out far too quickly. Actually, I disagree. You say Owen, but Owen himself admits that he was brought into the first team too young, before he'd fully developed and was overplayed at a young age. He trashed his body and by the age of 25, was completely crocked. The last 7 years of his career (up until retirement) were one long string of injuries, caused by Owen being overplayed as a teenager. Beckham wasn't 18 when he got into Man Utd's first team. He was nearer 20, 21. Rooney is the only one, but even he peaked really early imo. It's not about playing them regularly, it's about bringing them in and allowing them to develop. |
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Post by Veritas on Oct 7, 2015 11:18:22 GMT
The article doesn't say he is the best young hope at the club but that he is the best of the first year scholars, they have picked the best of that years intake at each of the Premier League clubs.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 7, 2015 11:33:50 GMT
I'm not sure what to make of your comment. On one level it is, of course, true. If an under 18 player really is good enough (and strong enough) to play at the top level then, fine. But very few players that young do play successfully at the top level. Owen, Beckam and Rooney were 3 who did. But most of the others, need time to grow faster, taller or stronger or need time to develop their skills or the mental maturity to flourish at the top level. Most players who graduate from academies to be regular Premier League starters seem to do it gradually between the ages of 18 - 22 or 23 - a tiny minority seem to manage it under 18 - and some of them seem to burn out far too quickly. Actually, I disagree. You say Owen, but Owen himself admits that he was brought into the first team too young, before he'd fully developed and was overplayed at a young age. He trashed his body and by the age of 25, was completely crocked. The last 7 years of his career (up until retirement) were one long string of injuries, caused by Owen being overplayed as a teenager. Beckham wasn't 18 when he got into Man Utd's first team. He was nearer 20, 21. Rooney is the only one, but even he peaked really early imo. It's not about playing them regularly, it's about bringing them in and allowing them to develop. I think we can both agree that players who are ready for regular football at the top level in their teens are as rare as hen's teeth. I'm always suspicious of the "if they are good enough they are old enough" comment by podolipotter. |
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Post by spitshaw on Oct 7, 2015 11:48:51 GMT
he looks about 40!
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Post by lichfieldboy on Oct 7, 2015 12:43:44 GMT
Verlindens agent will be on the phone to the Guardian then.
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 7, 2015 12:53:12 GMT
Verlindens agent will be on the phone to the Guardian then. How's Verlinden looked so far? He's made a few appearances for the U21s, hasn't he? |
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Post by metalhead on Oct 7, 2015 13:49:37 GMT
Actually, I disagree. You say Owen, but Owen himself admits that he was brought into the first team too young, before he'd fully developed and was overplayed at a young age. He trashed his body and by the age of 25, was completely crocked. The last 7 years of his career (up until retirement) were one long string of injuries, caused by Owen being overplayed as a teenager. Beckham wasn't 18 when he got into Man Utd's first team. He was nearer 20, 21. Rooney is the only one, but even he peaked really early imo. It's not about playing them regularly, it's about bringing them in and allowing them to develop. I think we can both agree that players who are ready for regular football at the top level in their teens are as rare as hen's teeth. I'm always suspicious of the "if they are good enough they are old enough" comment by podolipotter. Especially in a physical league like the Premiership. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 14:00:15 GMT
The article doesn't say he is the best young hope at the club but that he is the best of the first year scholars, they have picked the best of that years intake at each of the Premier League clubs. Well spotted. I just looked at the pictures.  ...and was thrown by the inclusion of Chabolah, not noticing it was Trevor and not his older brother. |
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Post by lichfieldboy on Oct 7, 2015 14:08:17 GMT
Verlindens agent will be on the phone to the Guardian then. How's Verlinden looked so far? He's made a few appearances for the U21s, hasn't he? Since pre-season I think he's appeared once for the 18's and once for the 21's. He's not lacking in confidence, very direct and can go past a player, end product is a bit hit and miss but at his age that's to be expected. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 7, 2015 23:51:00 GMT
How's Verlinden looked so far? He's made a few appearances for the U21s, hasn't he? Since pre-season I think he's appeared once for the 18's and once for the 21's. He's not lacking in confidence, very direct and can go past a player, end product is a bit hit and miss but at his age that's to be expected. That's exactly how he played tonight minus the hit bit but like you say it's to be expected. |
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 8, 2015 5:43:45 GMT
Since pre-season I think he's appeared once for the 18's and once for the 21's. He's not lacking in confidence, very direct and can go past a player, end product is a bit hit and miss but at his age that's to be expected. That's exactly how he played tonight minus the hit bit but like you say it's to be expected. What number was he? |
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 8, 2015 6:19:50 GMT
How much better does the kit look without a sponsor on it? Look like Subbuteo characters |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 8, 2015 7:46:55 GMT
That's exactly how he played tonight minus the hit bit but like you say it's to be expected. What number was he? 7, the little lad that ran their left back ragged. |
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 8, 2015 7:51:56 GMT
7, the little lad that ran their left back ragged. Loved a step inside didn't he. Who was no.10? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 8, 2015 8:16:20 GMT
7, the little lad that ran their left back ragged. Loved a step inside didn't he. Who was no.10? He did and the left back kept showing him there which was very odd. Waddington, one of the lads we got from Blackpool. |
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 8, 2015 8:17:26 GMT
Loved a step inside didn't he. Who was no.10? He did and the left back kept showing him there which was very odd. Waddington, one of the lads we got from Blackpool. Who was 7? |
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Post by Gods on Oct 8, 2015 8:33:04 GMT
How much better does the kit look without a sponsor on it? About 100 times better, I'd buy a home shirt and gladly pay double to do sport in if it didn't have a large stupid looking piece of plastic with the name of a large corporate gummed on the front  |
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