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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 3, 2015 18:28:22 GMT
Come to mummy you lovely 3 points  I really, really think we're turning it around now. That was a 2-0 performance and should have been a 2-0 result with a half decent ref. Villa aren't the best, there were times today they left so much space it looked like they only had 8 or 9 on the pitch and I do fear for them this season (was with a Villa fan mate and she was harsher about them than me, they're cracking fans but the mood is so bad). But today we'd have beaten a better side imho, we creative, strong, resolute and the majority of players looked like they knew wat was expected most of the time which is a massive change from 3 or 4 weeks ago. Sparky has got positivity back in the side and that's freeing us up to play a bit too, no major issues with any of his decisions but above all for me it's about what he does to our collective spirit, we can seriously kick on from here. 8* from me add * to your rating if you were there please? (this is optional!) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 18:33:00 GMT
10 from me. Can't actually find anything fault him on. Started the correct 11. Sent the team out fired up and we should have been 1-0 up at half time. We continued to dominate 2nd half and deservedly scored then saw it out without jack making a save. Pretty perfect that is if we're honest
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 18:34:30 GMT
10 from me. Can't actually find anything fault him on. Started the correct 11. Sent the team out fired up and we should have been 1-0 up at half time. We continued to dominate 2nd half and deservedly scored then saw it out without jack making a save. Pretty perfect that is if we're honest This... Picked the best team and made subs at the right times. 10 |
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Post by liathroid on Oct 3, 2015 18:35:00 GMT
10 from me. Can't actually find anything fault him on. Started the correct 11. Sent the team out fired up and we should have been 1-0 up at half time. We continued to dominate 2nd half and deservedly scored then saw it out without jack making a save. Pretty perfect that is if we're honest good shout |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 3, 2015 18:39:10 GMT
8. Good team, decent performance, sat back early when we had another goal in us and IMO slightly negative subs (though I accept not everyone agrees). Great result.
Good to meet Bunny and DaveJohnno today as well.
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Post by kurt on Oct 3, 2015 18:39:20 GMT
8 for me. I think next game deserves Ireland some minutes to play, if he is fit.
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Post by fca47 on Oct 3, 2015 18:40:14 GMT
8 - all round good job.
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Post by robstokie on Oct 3, 2015 19:32:59 GMT
9* - Set out with the right team, we gelled going forward and we looked composed at the back.
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Post by blackpoolred on Oct 3, 2015 21:59:10 GMT
Soooo much better without Shaq/VG starting on our travels. Keep starting the Bojmister and Walters.
Hand was forced with Shaq, but made the correct decision to leave VG out and also the correct decision to put a bit of bite and height in defence again(Wolly)
Best game in CH position for Cameron, but -2 for starting him there - never a CH.
Hopefully now beginning to realise that all his new signings need to be bled in gently and on merit - Walters is setting the bar and making himself undropable
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Post by cmc89 on Oct 4, 2015 13:41:07 GMT
9 from me.
Disappointed to see Charlie lad starting away from home next to whelan as I couldn't see him being up to the task defensively.
Happy to be proved wrong.
Would like to see Ireland get a chance but can't see bojan missing any games soon, he's beginning to find his stride.
Subs were pretty much forced and brought on the right people for the job.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 4, 2015 13:45:01 GMT
10 from me, provided the perfect away day.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 4, 2015 13:53:10 GMT
Soooo much better without Shaq/VG starting on our travels. Keep starting the Bojmister and Walters. Hand was forced with Shaq, but made the correct decision to leave VG out and also the correct decision to put a bit of bite and height in defence again(Wolly) Best game in CH position for Cameron, but -2 for starting him there - never a CH.Hopefully now beginning to realise that all his new signings need to be bled in gently and on merit - Walters is setting the bar and making himself undropable 8 So who would you have played alongside Wolly as the other centre back - given that Wilson and Ryan are injured and Muniesa had a poor game last time out? And are you certain they would have done as well as Cameron did in that position yesterday? 8 from me - can't see much that Sparky got wrong yesterday. Although I still think playing Adam between Whelan and Bojan is a risk in away games, I accept that it worked, so I can't complain. |
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Post by kustokie on Oct 4, 2015 13:59:26 GMT
10 Got everything right. Looks like he's finally figured out that he needs to work the newbies in gradually.
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Post by blackpoolred on Oct 4, 2015 16:32:27 GMT
Soooo much better without Shaq/VG starting on our travels. Keep starting the Bojmister and Walters. Hand was forced with Shaq, but made the correct decision to leave VG out and also the correct decision to put a bit of bite and height in defence again(Wolly) Best game in CH position for Cameron, but -2 for starting him there - never a CH.Hopefully now beginning to realise that all his new signings need to be bled in gently and on merit - Walters is setting the bar and making himself undropable 8 So who would you have played alongside Wolly as the other centre back - given that Wilson and Ryan are injured and Muniesa had a poor game last time out? And are you certain they would have done as well as Cameron did in that position yesterday? 8 from me - can't see much that Sparky got wrong yesterday. Although I still think playing Adam between Whelan and Bojan is a risk in away games, I accept that it worked, so I can't complain. Still would have gone with Muni as he is a recognised CH, although his confidence did look shot against Arsenal. Hughes obviously rates his central defenders highly as he has been quoted as saying that he could not guarantee Huth a game in the current squad and that is the reason he eventually moved on. Let's not also forget that Ryan's injury happened in the window and Hughes did not feel the need to go and buy another central defender. One can only asume from all of the above evidence, that he rated his remaining central defenders(Wolly, Wilson, Muni) very highly. If this is the case then play them - why now is he sticking a square peg in a round hole. He does seem to have fallen out of love with his new signings, which in my book is a good thing - they are all a bit QPR(esque). Stick with the old guard and go again in the window to try and improve the squad. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 4, 2015 16:42:01 GMT
So who would you have played alongside Wolly as the other centre back - given that Wilson and Ryan are injured and Muniesa had a poor game last time out? And are you certain they would have done as well as Cameron did in that position yesterday? 8 from me - can't see much that Sparky got wrong yesterday. Although I still think playing Adam between Whelan and Bojan is a risk in away games, I accept that it worked, so I can't complain. Still would have gone with Muni as he is a recognised CH, although his confidence did look shot against Arsenal. Hughes obviously rates his central defenders highly as he has been quoted as saying that he could not guarantee Huth a game in the current squad and that is the reason he eventually moved on. Let's not also forget that Ryan's injury happened in the window and Hughes did not feel the need to go and buy another central defender. One can only asume from all of the above evidence, that he rated his remaining central defenders(Wolly, Wilson, Muni) very highly. If this is the case then play them - why now is he sticking a square peg in a round hole. He does seem to have fallen out of love with his new signings, which in my book is a good thing - they are all a bit QPR(esque). Stick with the old guard and go again in the window to try and improve the squad. I don't get this square peg in a round hole argument as regards Cameron. When he arrived at Stoke he had never played at right back in his life. After a few games on the wing (!) as a "rookie" (see what I did there) I understand that he settled down to playing for his club and country both at centre back and centre midfield. That is his playing history as I understand it - no doubt one of our US based Stokies may confirm this. So, whether you like him as a cb is irrelevant. That fact is that he is a utility player who (based on his US experience) does a job at cb and cm and (thanks to TP and, to a lesser extent, Sparky) can fill in at right back if needs be - although I think many would argue it probably isn't his best position. |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 4, 2015 16:49:06 GMT
10*
Sent out a team full of ambition to win a game of football. Unsoiled sheet as well.
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Post by blackpoolred on Oct 4, 2015 19:51:24 GMT
Still would have gone with Muni as he is a recognised CH, although his confidence did look shot against Arsenal. Hughes obviously rates his central defenders highly as he has been quoted as saying that he could not guarantee Huth a game in the current squad and that is the reason he eventually moved on. Let's not also forget that Ryan's injury happened in the window and Hughes did not feel the need to go and buy another central defender. One can only asume from all of the above evidence, that he rated his remaining central defenders(Wolly, Wilson, Muni) very highly. If this is the case then play them - why now is he sticking a square peg in a round hole. He does seem to have fallen out of love with his new signings, which in my book is a good thing - they are all a bit QPR(esque). Stick with the old guard and go again in the window to try and improve the squad. I don't get this square peg in a round hole argument as regards Cameron. When he arrived at Stoke he had never played at right back in his life. After a few games on the wing (!) as a "rookie" (see what I did there) I understand that he settled down to playing for his club and country both at centre back and centre midfield. That is his playing history as I understand it - no doubt one of our US based Stokies may confirm this. So, whether you like him as a cb is irrelevant. That fact is that he is a utility player who (based on his US experience) does a job at cb and cm and (thanks to TP and, to a lesser extent, Sparky) can fill in at right back if needs be - although I think many would argue it probably isn't his best position. Good game yesterday, maybe he will prove me wrong, but I just dont see him as a central defender material - love to see him at CM |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 4, 2015 20:19:56 GMT
9 perfect away performance Gouranga.  |
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Post by jarhead on Oct 4, 2015 20:38:01 GMT
Has to be a 10.
Another win,a clean sheet aswell and a good performance all round.
Same at Swansea please lads.
Come On Stoke
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 4, 2015 21:02:15 GMT
8. Good team, decent performance, sat back early when we had another goal in us and IMO slightly negative subs (though I accept not everyone agrees). Great result. Good to meet Bunny and DaveJohnno today as well. Likewise. Had you not met bunny before? Figured you two writer dudes would know each other well. Re the subs, do we know why Arnie came off? If it wasn't for injury, that was an almighty gamble by Hughes. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Oct 4, 2015 21:11:49 GMT
8. Good team, decent performance, sat back early when we had another goal in us and IMO slightly negative subs (though I accept not everyone agrees). Great result. Good to meet Bunny and DaveJohnno today as well. Likewise. Had you not met bunny before? Figured you two writer dudes would know each other well. Re the subs, do we know why Arnie came off? If it wasn't for injury, that was an almighty gamble by Hughes. Does the Chief really wear an head dress? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 4, 2015 21:12:56 GMT
Likewise. Had you not met bunny before? Figured you two writer dudes would know each other well. Re the subs, do we know why Arnie came off? If it wasn't for injury, that was an almighty gamble by Hughes. Does the Chief really wear an head dress? No head gear on display yesterday! :-) |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 4, 2015 21:16:44 GMT
9*
Strong side selected and the first 60 minutes was sublime.
Head strong at the end with the back 4 looking very good.
Special mention to pieters, Johnson, Wolly and Arnie for their excellent shifts.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 4, 2015 22:26:21 GMT
8. Good team, decent performance, sat back early when we had another goal in us and IMO slightly negative subs (though I accept not everyone agrees). Great result. Good to meet Bunny and DaveJohnno today as well. Likewise. Had you not met bunny before? Figured you two writer dudes would know each other well. Re the subs, do we know why Arnie came off? If it wasn't for injury, that was an almighty gamble by Hughes. Not in the flesh I hadn't no mate. Nice to put a face to a name and all that. I think Arnie was just knackered, but it did seem incredibly early to bring him off if he wasn't injured. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 5:03:06 GMT
Hughes said Arnie's back was cramping up and had locked.
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Post by albundy on Oct 5, 2015 7:03:25 GMT
9*
The only minor gripe from me was that I thought that he took Diouf off 10/15 minutes too late. He was fooked for a bit before he came off but I think that the lack of pace on the bench meant that he kept him on when he could hardly run.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 5, 2015 7:22:37 GMT
Hughes said Arnie's back was cramping up and had locked. Cheers mate. That's fair enough then. Arnie was playing so well that it seemed a ridiculous notion to even contemplate taking him off if he wasn't injured. It is comforting to know that Hughes hadn't had a "TP" moment. |
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I really, really think we're turning it around now. That was a 2-0 performance and should have been a 2-0 result with a half decent ref. Villa aren't the best, there were times today they left so much space it looked like they only had 8 or 9 on the pitch and I do fear for them this season (was with a Villa fan mate and she was harsher about them than me, they're cracking fans but the mood is so bad). But today we'd have beaten a better side imho, we creative, strong, resolute and the majority of players looked like they knew wat was expected most of the time which is a massive change from 3 or 4 weeks ago. Sparky has got positivity back in the side and that's freeing us up to play a bit too, no major issues with any of his decisions but above all for me it's about what he does to our collective spirit, we can seriously kick on from here.
